Can you handle that shit test?

[Gsi2810]

So I cold approached this 8/9 (depending who you ask) girl a few days back, I was leaving town so didn't have much chance, I messaged her yesterday for general vibing and planting a future date when I'll be around town in a month or so. Now this girl knows she is hot and she knows it, her response regarding my future date was:

"good wine and fancy dinner could work but I'm a broke student girl, you sure you can handle that? :love emjois X2:

She obviously is trying to frame me into the provider category and I'm sure there is a shopping guy, a wine guy the guys spend money on her and she doesn't put out for them. This is only our second interaction (the first being the cold approach) so it's crucial to set frames here.

EDIT: Also can you guys lay down some guidelines when the woman challenges you? It's very jarring when you're a seducer and leading and bam she tries to aggressively take control. I just ignore it and keep on doing my thing but any other suggestions?

 

[topcat]

“perfect i’ve always loved macdonalds! i’ve heard they even accept credit cards!”

insinuating she was paying the whole time and you’ll have her buy you macdonalds so as not to break her bank account.

EDIT: Also can you guys lay down some guidelines when the woman challenges you? It's very jarring when you're a seducer and leading and bam she tries to aggressively take control. I just ignore it and keep on doing my thing but any other suggestions?

i like to resort to absurd humor or feigned misunderstanding. Basically pretend (though tongue in cheek) that i don’t understand what she’s saying so “can she please clarify for me”.
If she starts to spell out what she wants and it’s unfavourable (“you’re going to take me out for dinner man”) i shut it down with a simple “no, i’m not doing that” and leave it up to her to bridge the gap she created.

 

[Gsi2810]

Thanks @topcat
We got an update guys, I didn't say the McDonalds line but I ignored her gold digging frame and talked about vibes, chemistry the lovers frame. I'm in Budapest, she is Warsaw she is saying she can fly down to meet me (I haven't done ANYTHING to warrant such a reaction from her one cold approach and that's it). Seems like I stumbled into a p4p or sugar daddy setup, how to play this? I would very much like to smash but don't want to do p4p, I don't mind a fancy dinner here and there but paying for flight tickets is too much.

 

[topcat]

Thanks @topcat
We got an update guys, I didn't say the McDonalds line but I ignored her gold digging frame and talked about vibes, chemistry the lovers frame. I'm in Budapest, she is Warsaw she is saying she can fly down to meet me (I haven't done ANYTHING to warrant such a reaction from her one cold approach and that's it). Seems like I stumbled into a p4p or sugar daddy setup, how to play this? I would very much like to smash but don't want to do p4p, I don't mind a fancy dinner here and there but paying for flight tickets is too much.

man tell that hoe to kick rocks bro. she’s not serious.

at this point for my amusement i’d be goading her into flying down to budapest, just to see if she’s desperate enough to do it.

 

[Gsi2810]

Haha I was thinking I'd go a bit gentle on her and kick the can down the road. I often visit Warsaw, I'd try my luck with her then.
Btw guys polish girls are just
A lot of the good looking students there work in strip clubs, maybe I cold approached one of those haha.

 

[Lover]

I'm a broke student girl

she is saying she can fly down to meet me

Seems legit lol

 

[Gsi2810]

I'm fooling around at this point lol, here's an update as I continue to stick to a lovers frame but don't counter or address her money frame. She keeps talking about how an older gentleman like me should give her an offer that a beautiful young girl like herself can appreciate and feel valued for. I'm just talking about chemistry and vibing, both are trolling each other XD

 

[TomInHo]

You sir have too much free time on your hands

 

[Gsi2810]

I'm approaching it with the mindset of a very difficult set, as a challenge. She is sort of investing now. Let's see where this goes.

 

[StrayDog]

Thanks @topcat
We got an update guys, I didn't say the McDonalds line but I ignored her gold digging frame and talked about vibes, chemistry the lovers frame.

all this via text? dude none of that works via text. Talking about vibes and chemistry. That for in person and better felt above spoken about. I would have gone with @topcat joke about McDonald's. keep things light and playful, while still getting under the frame. Then move things towards soft close.

This girl hit me up who I'm pretty sure does p4p stuff. Definitely strips. She was trying to get me to take her on a fancy dinner, get a hotel and shit. I straight up told her "my broke ass? we're dealing in different types of currency, dear"

she was like "what you got pesos?"

And I was like "yeah I got like three. we can split a taco" and then I was like "common Erica, you're deeper than that...pesos..."

Never heard her mention of whining and dinning again. Went on a date, bought her a fucking lemonade. She wanted to keep hanging but I wasn't feeling her vibes. She had done a bunch of coke the night before and was snorting the whole time. yuck

Any way I digress.

My point being. You cant be negotiating terms like this. Especially via text. You gotta lay down what the terms are by SHOWING her what they are. And as @topcat says let her close the gap.

 

[Gsi2810]

I'm teasing her too, and trying to make her invest (which she is cautiously) this is a shot in the dark. Pretty sure she is into multiple paid arrangements but I was thinking surely these strippers/ OF girls have sex with non paying patrons right? Let's see if I can be one.

 

[KJ Francis]

I was thinking surely these strippers/ OF girls have sex with non paying patrons right? Let's see if I can be one.

If this is the challenge, maybe wait until you're in her city. Spending time texting a girl in another city shows her you don't have competitive options in town.

Especially if it's a frame battle, I don't think she is picturing you as drowning in pussy. Her phone is probably full of similar conversations.

 

[Gsi2810]

Yeah makes sense I just wanted to have at least one exchange since the cold approach which happened a few days back (I'm gonna be in Warsaw in 2 months). I have the same mindset @Francis but I remember Todd Valentine once mentioned that girls especially the pretty ones have short memories and I would be forgotten in a few days so might as well continue to vibe and build comfort but tease so value is retained. The latest update is she invested a bit yesterday and we left it at that.

 

[Skills]

So I cold approached this 8/9 (depending who you ask) girl a few days back, I was leaving town so didn't have much chance, I messaged her yesterday for general vibing and planting a future date when I'll be around town in a month or so. Now this girl knows she is hot and she knows it, her response regarding my future date was:

"good wine and fancy dinner could work but I'm a broke student girl, you sure you can handle that? :love emjois X2:

She obviously is trying to frame me into the provider category and I'm sure there is a shopping guy, a wine guy the guys spend money on her and she doesn't put out for them. This is only our second interaction (the first being the cold approach) so it's crucial to set frames here.

EDIT: Also can you guys lay down some guidelines when the woman challenges you? It's very jarring when you're a seducer and leading and bam she tries to aggressively take control. I just ignore it and keep on doing my thing but any other suggestions?

Say no problem I am on the other line making dinner reservations for Chipotle...I am romantic!

Wait for a response..

I rather first meet for something more quick and casual to see if the vibe is there and if it is we take it from there...

Then find out a taco place and take her there if she is hungry

 

[Gsi2810]

Haha I have never done dinner dates since I joined this forum, drinks or bust

 

[Skills]

Haha I have never done dinner dates since I joined this forum, drinks or bust

Re read what I said were did I say dinner

 

[Gsi2810]

That was a comment in agreement man haha. Btw last month I posted here about losing the girl in the club, @Skills your containment and glimpsing post was very helpful and solid, felt like I leveled up, still ways to go though haha.