Can you make yourself feel more attracted to someone?

[topcat]

Going for extremes is a losing strategy... the sexual deviant and the low sex drive are two extremes that won't keep anyone satisfied long term, the magic is in the middle with most things in life, including having a partner.

Imma stop you here. This is incorrect.

It seems what your suggesting is an ideal middle ground where everybody has a balanced sex drive according to your “ideal” that i see near nobody in this life matching.

What really tends to work is when people have matched sex drives. A low sex drive is not necessarily bad (it is in the context of a high sex drive partner however) and a neither is a high sex drive (though problematic and likely annoying for a lower sex drive partner).

I suggest it’s better to work with what one is than what one wishes one would be.

I sense strong bias in your tone, one that holds a subtle detest of men with high sex drives. I remember you experiencing a similar shock when you realized a subset of men here had a preference for women that were experienced and not virgins..

Your ideals seem to cloud your ability to see reality, going so far as to want to hypnotize women into being what they are not and what they do not want rather than working with what they are and helping them to mitigate the downsides or educate them on the risks associated with their preferences.

Women like what they like for a reason. It certainly serves some natural purpose. As does the player and the boring good guy alike. These things are as old as humanity perhaps older. I’m not sure how far hypnotism will go in correcting this but one can and certainly should try i guess..

Barring that you certainly have the potential to cash in, for as we know, women buy lies. Just look at the cosmetics industry

 

[Vision]

Imma stop you here. This is incorrect.

It seems what your suggesting is an ideal middle ground where everybody has a balanced sex drive according to your “ideal” that i see near nobody in this life matching.

I'm making a generalized statement about life. The Ancient Greeks supposedly had a saying that went "Moderation in all things"... it's not a new concept and it's not just around finding a partner with a certain sex drive.

I'm just making a generalized point about life... generally speaking, moderation is best in most things out there...

From food to alcohol to women to most things. Obviously, there are exceptions but I'd say this is generally a good philosophy to live by, especially when looking for a healthy partner.

What really tends to work is when people have matched sex drives. A low sex drive is not necessarily bad (it is in the context of a high sex drive partner however) and a neither is a high sex drive (though problematic and likely annoying for a lower sex drive partner).

That can definitely be true... assuming sex is a cornerstone of the relationship. Another thing that works is one partner being willing to have more sex (when they have a lower sex drive) as well as moderating your sexual drive to take that energy and put it other places.

I suggest it’s better to work with what one is than what one wishes one would be.

I sense strong bias in your tone, one that holds a subtle detest of men with high sex drives. I remember you experiencing a similar shock when you realized a subset of men here had a preference for women that were experienced and not virgins..

I have a pretty high sex drive... definitely met women who wanted sex more than me but I'd say that's the exception.

Your ideals seem to cloud your ability to see reality, going so far as to want to hypnotize women into being what they are not and what they do not want rather than working with what they are and helping them to mitigate the downsides or educate them on the risks associated with their preferences.

Lol... Or maybe I'm helping people who are seeking unhealthy things that will end up ruining their lives, cause them further pain in the future, and result in going from one broken situation to the next, making them want to just give up on men, dating, and relationships altogether... actually find something that's healthy and will last a lot longer and is far more fulfilling to them.

Women like what they like for a reason.

Yeah, and the reason is often that they grew up without a father, their parents modeled unhealthy relationship dynamics, they were abused when they were younger, they have been in one unhealthy relationship after the next, they're addicted to superficial gratifications, they are naïve, they weren't taught to value themselves, or they are so familiar with toxic situations that they automatically go back to those.

It certainly serves some natural purpose. As does the player and the boring good guy alike. These things are as old as humanity perhaps older. I’m not sure how far hypnotism will go in correcting this but one can and certainly should try i guess..

Yeah, if it can help Chase bang black and asian girls, I'm sure it can help women seek healthier men.

Barring that you certainly have the potential to cash in, for as we know, women buy lies. Just look at the cosmetics industry

Oh, it's a lie now? Why are you so biased against women getting healthier partners?... that's what I want to know.

 

[Vision]

Imma stop you here. This is incorrect.

It seems what your suggesting is an ideal middle ground where everybody has a balanced sex drive according to your “ideal” that i see near nobody in this life matching.

I'm making a generalized statement about life. The Ancient Greeks supposedly had a saying that went "Moderation in all things"... it's not a new concept and it's not just around finding a partner with a certain sex drive.

I'm just making a generalized point about life... generally speaking, moderation is best in most things out there...

From food to alcohol to women to most things. Obviously, there are exceptions but I'd say this is generally a good philosophy to live by, especially when looking for a healthy partner.

What really tends to work is when people have matched sex drives. A low sex drive is not necessarily bad (it is in the context of a high sex drive partner however) and a neither is a high sex drive (though problematic and likely annoying for a lower sex drive partner).

That can definitely be true... assuming sex is a cornerstone of the relationship. Another thing that works is one partner being willing to have more sex (when they have a lower sex drive) as well as moderating your sexual drive to take that energy and put it other places.

I suggest it’s better to work with what one is than what one wishes one would be.

I sense strong bias in your tone, one that holds a subtle detest of men with high sex drives. I remember you experiencing a similar shock when you realized a subset of men here had a preference for women that were experienced and not virgins..

I have a pretty high sex drive... definitely met women who wanted sex more than me but I'd say that's the exception.

Your ideals seem to cloud your ability to see reality, going so far as to want to hypnotize women into being what they are not and what they do not want rather than working with what they are and helping them to mitigate the downsides or educate them on the risks associated with their preferences.

Lol... Or maybe I'm helping people who are seeking unhealthy things that will end up ruining their lives, cause them further pain in the future, and result in going from one broken situation to the next, making them want to just give up on men, dating, and relationships altogether... actually find something that's healthy and will last a lot longer and is far more fulfilling to them.

Women like what they like for a reason.

Yeah, and the reason is often that they grew up without a father, their parents modeled unhealthy relationship dynamics, they were abused when they were younger, they have been in one unhealthy relationship after the next, they're addicted to superficial gratifications, they are naïve, they weren't taught to value themselves, or they are so familiar with toxic situations that they automatically go back to those.

It certainly serves some natural purpose. As does the player and the boring good guy alike. These things are as old as humanity perhaps older. I’m not sure how far hypnotism will go in correcting this but one can and certainly should try i guess..

Yeah, if it can help Chase bang black and asian girls, I'm sure it can help women seek healthier men.

Barring that you certainly have the potential to cash in, for as we know, women buy lies. Just look at the cosmetics industry

Oh, it's a lie now? Why are you so biased against women getting healthier partners?... that's what I want to know.

 

[Vision]

Imma stop you here. This is incorrect.

It seems what your suggesting is an ideal middle ground where everybody has a balanced sex drive according to your “ideal” that i see near nobody in this life matching.

I'm making a generalized statement about life. The Ancient Greeks supposedly had a saying that went "Moderation in all things"... it's not a new concept and it's not just around finding a partner with a certain sex drive.

I'm just making a generalized point about life... generally speaking, moderation is best in most things out there...

From food to alcohol to women to most things. Obviously, there are exceptions but I'd say this is generally a good philosophy to live by, especially when looking for a healthy partner.

What really tends to work is when people have matched sex drives. A low sex drive is not necessarily bad (it is in the context of a high sex drive partner however) and a neither is a high sex drive (though problematic and likely annoying for a lower sex drive partner).

That can definitely be true... assuming sex is a cornerstone of the relationship. Another thing that works is one partner being willing to have more sex (when they have a lower sex drive) as well as moderating your sexual drive to take that energy and put it other places.

I suggest it’s better to work with what one is than what one wishes one would be.

I sense strong bias in your tone, one that holds a subtle detest of men with high sex drives. I remember you experiencing a similar shock when you realized a subset of men here had a preference for women that were experienced and not virgins..

I have a pretty high sex drive... definitely met women who wanted sex more than me but I'd say that's the exception.

Your ideals seem to cloud your ability to see reality, going so far as to want to hypnotize women into being what they are not and what they do not want rather than working with what they are and helping them to mitigate the downsides or educate them on the risks associated with their preferences.

Lol... Or maybe I'm helping people who are seeking unhealthy things that will end up ruining their lives, cause them further pain in the future, and result in going from one broken situation to the next, making them want to just give up on men, dating, and relationships altogether... actually find something that's healthy and will last a lot longer and is far more fulfilling to them.

Women like what they like for a reason.

Yeah, and the reason is often that they grew up without a father, they modeled their parents who had unhealthy relationship dynamics, they were abused when they were younger, they have been in one unhealthy relationship after the next, they're addicted to superficial gratifications, they are naïve, they weren't taught to value themselves, or they are so familiar with toxic situations that they automatically go back to those.

It certainly serves some natural purpose. As does the player and the boring good guy alike. These things are as old as humanity perhaps older. I’m not sure how far hypnotism will go in correcting this but one can and certainly should try i guess..

Yeah, if it can help Chase bang black and asian girls, I'm sure it can help women seek healthier men.

Barring that you certainly have the potential to cash in, for as we know, women buy lies. Just look at the cosmetics industry

Oh, it's a lie now? Why are you so biased against women getting healthier partners?... that's what I want to know.

 

[topcat]

Oh, it's a lie now? Why are you so biased against women getting healthier partners?... that's what I want to know.

It’s your framing of healthier partners that i take up issue with. For instance:

Yeah, and the reason is often that they grew up without a father, their parents modeled unhealthy relationship dynamics, they were abused when they were younger, they have been in one unhealthy relationship after the next, they're addicted to superficial gratifications, they are naïve, they weren't taught to value themselves, or they are so familiar with toxic situations that they automatically go back to those.

This isn’t the majority of women who end up with the dudes you’ve described though. Many girls i’ve been with (me being one of these sordid rascals you’ve described) have had fathers in the home, not been abused etc. it’s simply been a personality trait, a stage in life or what have you.

Lol... Or maybe I'm helping people who are seeking unhealthy things that will end up ruining their lives, cause them further pain in the future, and result in going from one broken situation to the next, making them want to just give up on men, dating, and relationships altogether... actually find something that's healthy and will last a lot longer and is far more fulfilling to them.

I honestly think the issue is more environmental/societal than anything to do with the majority of women’s or men’s “brokenness”. It’s simply people responding to and becoming frustrated by an environment that doesn’t return what they need (likely correlated with living in the urbanized west).

I also question the effectiveness of asking a forum of “sex addicts” how women can reframe their innate motives to no longer be attracted to us. A quick google of “MK Ultra” might point you in the right direction.

 

[Vision]

It’s your framing of healthier partners that i take up issue with. For instance:


This isn’t the majority of women who end up with the dudes you’ve described though.

How do you know what the majority of women who end up with the dudes I've described are doing this as a result of?

My experience is simply from my practice, which isn't working with all women, it's working with women who need help.

Just like the men's dating industry, most women don't come to me because everything is going well in their dating lives, they come to me because things aren't going well and they need help.

Many girls i’ve been with (me being one of these sordid rascals you’ve described) have had fathers in the home, not been abused etc. it’s simply been a personality trait, a stage in life or what have you.

Cool... are they looking for dating advice? Are they looking for help?

If not, they may not be coming to me for anything. They may be... hard to say really.

I'm not trying to say that all women who bang the wrong guys come from broken homes... there are a lot of reasons, some talked about earlier, some not talked about at all by either of us, that they may end up in a player's bed.

I honestly think the issue is more environmental/societal than anything to do with the majority of women’s or men’s “brokenness”. It’s simply people responding to and becoming frustrated by an environment that doesn’t return what they need (likely correlated with living in the urbanized west).

We live in a sick society. Our society is broken at the moment and trying to repair itself... Almost a quarter of kids are currently living with one adult in their home, let alone families that are divorced and all the other issues that are going on there... plus our culture is currently the "hookup culture" with men trying to be women and women trying to be men.

It's a bit of a shit show out there, as I'm sure you've noticed.

Red pill has taken over the men's side of things, there's tons of trauma people are experiencing in relationships, and most people are confused about what's going on and many are giving up on dating, the opposite sex, and relationships altogether.

I think this may change soon but environmental is definitely a factor... and if you want to call it "brokenness" then I'd say there's a lot of it to go around these days from just an environmental and societal standpoint.

I also question the effectiveness of asking a forum of “sex addicts” how women can reframe their innate motives to no longer be attracted to us. A quick google of “MK Ultra” might point you in the right direction.

Okay, there are a lot of smart people in here. But if you think they're too big of sex addicts, maybe I should be in an NLP forum or coaching community, but I thought I'd see what people in here thought since it's a familiar community and I know a lot of people in here have thought about similar things, been very scientific about how they approach things, and could have some useful insights.

But maybe you're right. Maybe this isn't the appropriate place to have this discussion.