Chase how much do YOU think location and the city you're in matters?

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

I am starting to wonder at what point it gets to the stage where you are just making excuses instead of taking action or if the city matters that much, starting to wonder if my game has slipped that much.

Now I am thinking for the kinds of women you like, it must matter to some degree. I almost exclusively go for white women but the city I am in (Atlanta), does not have a lot of single available white women. Most of the women here are all black and I have to ward off advances from them on the regular. It seems so difficult for me to find approachable white women here and it seems like if you didn't grow up around them, they don't give you a chance.

On the same token I wonder if I am just making excuses and at this point, how big of a difference a location change would make for me. I could see this being less of an issue for a guy who is into all races equally, he might actually love Atlanta, but for guys like me it is a different story.

What are your thoughts Chase?

 

[Regal Tiger]

How many times are you going to make the same thread?

I can relate a little bit because when I moved to a new city, it did become a little harder. It was a pain the ass too. Not even to mention the life bullshit that fucked with my head. I saw everybody walking around in those colored frat boy shorts that I love to hate so much. All of them with a woman on their arms thinking "What the hell??"

But after dusting myself off, finally, and putting in a little more effort into my weaker areas I started getting literally same day results.

Chase has a few articles where he talks about his own struggles when he moved from DC to San Diego (I think it was San Diego, might be wrong on the city but I know it was California). In it, he talked about how he had a multitude of things going against him.

There were fewer women compared to men, so women had excess choice while men typically did not.

All of the guys were aggressive and shredded.

He was a little chubby and started to get down on himself about the more common type of woman around the area.

Eventually he overcame it.


Is you're new city harder? Possibly, yea. You could be justified in saying that.

But there are a few key areas in your life that are holding you back. Areas, that I'm willing to bet, are under your control.

At this point though I feel like you just want someone else to swoop in and say "Yup, it's not you bro. Those fuckin bitches..." and you're not going to get that.

 

[Richard]

Alright,

Regardless of city or circumstance; the only thing you can do is control what's within your grasp. If there are women in your city, they are fucking some guys and if they are fucking some guys THEN you can also fuck those women.

Maybe that means you have to adapt your game, maybe that means you have to change how you dress, etc. but it's much more fruitful to control what you can than blame it on things that you cannot like city and location. Well, technically, you can control city and location...

Anyway, there are tons of universally attractive qualities you can have as a man that are attractive to ALL women so if women aren't open to you then it's still your fault and because it's your fault, you have the freedom and responsibility to change so when those women start sleeping with you, it's still your fault.

Plus, the demographic of white people in Atlanta was around 36% when I went with my brother to visit his wife's family. Buckhead has tons of white people, as does Midtown, as does Virginia-Highland (which is where I was visiting). Basically, as long as you're avoiding Southern Georgia and Northwestern Georgia then you'll be around white women plenty. Then, if you're looking for Latinas... you'd better find another state! =P

-Richard

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

An issue I run into repeatedly is that a lot of white women here are in tight social circles that are tough to penetrate so it is rejections galore. I am finding night game, daygame, and even online game ineffective here. I know the approach to take is social circle game but the groups I am a part of hardly amount to much. FFS, I cannot be the only one having issues in this city, someone must be living here and managing to make it work.

 

[ProblemSolving]

Yes, I personally believe that your city and the location in that city are more important than anything, PROVIDED that you are already attractive to most women. It basically boils down to exposure. The more exposure you have to the girls you want, the greater your odds of success.

However, one has to ask, are you having success with ANY girls at the moment? Forget about race. Have you been getting laid with black, asian, latina, or brown women? If not, then you can't really blame it on the white girls. Usually, if you have success with one race of girl, it doesn't take much to see success with all races of girls - they aren't that different.

My advice: go hit on a bunch of hot black chicks. If you still can't get anywhere, then you have to admit that the girls aren't the problem, the problem is that you need to improve yourself.

 

[Seppuku]

I bet if I was in Atlanta I would be fucking like crazy.

Where I am, the available white girls are in very short supply. What I did, instead of complaining, and beating myself, is I broadened my horizon and adapted to the place. Much more efficient than making the place adapt to you. And much better than playing with myself.

So I went for Asian girls, and I fucked happily ever after.

When I got a little spoiled with Asian girls, I made the step and went for Black girls. Yes, as a White guy, I admit there was a step to make. But man, I never regretted that I made that step... They are so feminine and sexy... and my balls were empty ever after.

Challenge yourself. Stop saying you can't do this or that type of girls, and start adapting to the place. You'll be doing yourself a service... And maybe you'll come to discover that you were really missing out on something.

Seppuku
PS. and there has already been loads and loads of guys whining here all year long about how they can't get that or that type of girls they're into... And there were all finally banned. If I can give you advice, don't follow their steps. You want to read this post by Chase.

 

[ThePhoenix]

I almost exclusively go for white women but the city I am in (Atlanta), does not have a lot of single available white women. Most of the women here are all black and I have to ward off advances from them on the regular.

Oh my God, can we trade places?!?

I love black women so much I'll barely look at anything else, but they're only 9% in my city. Since having really gotten down to trying to master game, I've started to feel stifled by this. Enough that I'm somewhat contemplating moving to east Africa! I do feel that this can make a big difference when you're learning if you're not open to compromise on race.

On the other hand, if you tighten your game enough, I don't think that any big city is going to be that limiting. I've had enough glimpses of success with black women to be pretty confident that once I tighten up my game, their being 9% won't stop me.

Now, I'm the white guy who'se lived in black neighbourhoods and has had more black girls as female friends than white girls (by far, actually.) The one you'll find involved in Caribbean cultural events. I have the familiarity with my type that Chase talks about in the thread that Seppuku linked. This is crucial; if you don't have it, get it or go home.

You also have to accept that, when learning, if you won't compromise horizontally, you'll have to make bigger compromises vertically. As in, if you're dead-set on a certain minority race, you'll have to accept hitting on less attractive specimens. Unless you're willing to move. Something will have to give somewhere. You're basically just choosing which compromises are more acceptable to you: race, other traits, or travel. Tough pill I know! Mais, c'est la vie.

Also. I know that variations in tastes are as natural as variations in humans. I do, however, get a bit suspicious when a guy specifically only likes white girls, or specifically doesn't like black girls, that the unfortunate societal stratification of races could be at play. Media and society at large have been pretty good at hammering this picture into our heads of white woman as the ideal woman, and black woman as the farthest thing from it. I dodged that partly from growing up around a lot of black women and partly because I was raised to think for myself instead of letting a TV set beam ideals into my brain.

I can't tell you what to like; hell, I can't even tell myself what to like. But it's worth at least asking yourself if maybe in not liking black women you're just obeying something you've been taught as opposed to something that's inside of you. There are plenty of men of all races who adore black women; this wouldn't be the case if there was actually anything wrong with them.

I want to leave you with how I closed the above-linked journal post.

I know that this is life and that nobody is going to hand me anything on a silver platter. Which means that my choices are basically:

1. Suck it up and try to improve my skills on women I really don't feel like hitting on;
2. Suck it up and battle through a tougher learning curve; or
3. Suck it up and deal with sacrifices or complications required to move to Africa.

Phoenix

P.S., Over this past summer I number closed one of those cute black girls from your city who you ward off. Unfortunately she was only in my city a short time and I was a total idiot when it came to logistics and didn't consider to ask if she had roaming. Should probably have tried to pull her straight but we were both all over the place. She had such a cute accent, too. One man's trash is another man's treasure, I guess.

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

I have to actively avoid black girls in this city and they are just not my thing. As someone who prefers to exclusively date white women, I refuse to branch out. I do find it comforting to know that everyone can admit this city sucks if you want to date and hook up with white women, looking to move as soon as possible.

 

[ThePhoenix]

I do find it comforting to know that everyone can admit this city sucks if you want to date and hook up with white women

The actual responses I see on this thread are a bit more nuanced than that. I think you're hearing what you want to hear.

 

[Franco]

PF,

The short answer to this question is, if you're not having success in a given location, then move somewhere else. This will also help you verify whether or not it's the location or your game -- if you struggle in a city with a ton of available white women, then obviously your game needs improvement.

This is becoming dangerously close to the "race" threads that we've had in the past, and we banned multiple members on the boards for repeated posts like this. A good mentality to have here is "every failure that happens to me is my fault" so you can take a proactive stance and rally against it rather than a victim stance and complain about it.

Next post like this from you will result in a temporary or permanent ban.

- Franco