Chase: What if a guy avoided game/dating but kept improving his value as a man?

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

Completely hypothetical situation here.

Say you had a guy who over the years spent the time to build his career, get wealthy, become better looking (gym and fitness), and pursued his hobbies that interested him. All the while, he never bothered to approach new women or with dating in general. He never spent the time going out to bars to approach random women, never bothered with online dating, and didn't do any of that stuff to actually meet new women but he spent the time to make himself an attractive man on paper (nice paying job, maxing out looks, and developing hobbies).

Is that guy fucked?

 

[Seppuku]

Re: Chase: What if a guy avoided game/dating but kept improving his value as a m

That was me before - except for maximizing looks.

This guy doesn't get laid. It's not enough to just work up your career and become a man with situation and interests and looks. You also need to kick your ass out of your comfort zone and bring new women into your life. They will not just magically pop up into your life - maybe a few will once in a while, but not nearly enough.

Also, a big obstacle is your mindset. Likely you're holding a ton of wrong beliefs about game, girls and dating. And if you haven't been much successful with girls, you likely have a dose of bitterness. This mindset all plays against you. If you get a date by chance, you will fast end up in the friend zone.

However once you put in the effort to go towards women, and change for a positive mindset, and learn game and dating, then your higher value (career, hobbies, interests...) and looks will actually make it easier.

Seppuku

 

[BetaBoy]

Re: Chase: What if a guy avoided game/dating but kept improving his value as a m

That was me before - except for maximizing looks.

This guy doesn't get laid. It's not enough to just work up your career and become a man with situation and interests and looks. You also need to kick your ass out of your comfort zone and bring new women into your life. They will not just magically pop up into your life - maybe a few will once in a while, but not nearly enough.

Also, a big obstacle is your mindset. Likely you're holding a ton of wrong beliefs about game, girls and dating. And if you haven't been much successful with girls, you likely have a dose of bitterness. This mindset all plays against you. If you get a date by chance, you will fast end up in the friend zone.

However once you put in the effort to go towards women, and change for a positive mindset, and learn game and dating, then your higher value (career, hobbies, interests...) and looks will actually make it easier.

Seppuku

well put and no op wealth is largely a byproduct of your daily expenditures or lack there of combined with how much you make. theres always ways to increase net worth.also women are not as heavily focused on looks, thats your masculinity being juxtaposed. take for instance the fundamental accounting equation:

sales(annual paycheck)-expenses=gross income-taxes=networth

 

[Fuck This]

Re: Chase: What if a guy avoided game/dating but kept improving his value as a m

AKA"MonkMode"

Pretty much what my 72 year old bachelor uncle has done with his life. Now there ain't no room for a woman in his life. Inflexible as all heck.

 

[ThePhoenix]

Re: Chase: What if a guy avoided game/dating but kept improving his value as a m

I agree with what's been said here but want to add a couple things.

Firstly, the mind is very much a machine of habit. When you stay away from women for long enough, this becomes a behavioural pattern and can eventually become extremely hard to break.

I have unfortunately had this happen to me. I have a really, really bad case of approach anxiety, and I feel it was largely precipitated by staying away from women for many years. Just the other day I broke a personal record by approaching three girls in one day of day game, but that was the whole day spent alternately between busy downtown streets and a bustling 1.2 million square foot shopping centre. In that time, I should have approached a good 10 or 20. And I've been at this for several months with a level of dedication that most men likely wouldn't have time for, so if I was most men I could very easily have screwed myself for life.

I strongly believe that staying away from women is extremely unhealthy to a man's psyche.

Secondly, career/business and game do not exist in vacuums. They both involve social interaction. Getting good with women is also an exercise in mastery of social interaction, and gains in that department could very easily spill over and improve your outlook and performance in career/business.

 

[slazenger]

Re: Chase: What if a guy avoided game/dating but kept improving his value as a m

sales(annual paycheck)-expenses=gross income-taxes=networth

You sure that doesn't equal "net income"? Net worth (re: equity) is a balance sheet item. Your formula there is an income statement equation.