Chase's Advice Not Working For You? You're Doing It Wrong

[Drck]

"How can you teach a man how to be sexy? How can a man "try" to be sexy? To start, he needs guidelines"

(1) Many guys are looking for problems that are non-existent. The key is in simplicity. You are a guy and she is a girl. There is ALREADY natural attraction, there is already polarity between two genders... You don't have to create the attraction, Mother Nature has already done it for you... You just have to make the 'sexiness' more visible, which basically means that you have to work on your Fundamentals. There is no need to be more sexy than that. Put nice clothes on, decent shoes. Make sure you are clean, combed hair, shaved, clean nails... Stand up straight, yet relaxed. Walk relaxed. Smile slightly, look (not stare) into people's eyes firmly... When you see a girl walking by, look in her eyes (firmly) and slightly smile. Don't move your eyes away, keep looking into her eyes... 95% of time she will smile back, she will notice that you noticed her, she will know that you are interested in her...

(2) Believe that you are a man and THEREFORE you are already sexy. You don't need to try to be sexy because you are already sexy. Don't analyze that, don't think too much about that, simply believe because that is how it is... You have a dick, that is all you need to be sexy... If you have problems with that, stand up in front of the mirror in the morning and evening, look into your own eyes and repeat "I am great and sexy guy and every girl wants me. Girls want my dick"... Do it for couple of days and your mind set will start changing, your brain will start believing...

... go out and try the (1) above today, I bet that you will see results immediately. People will perceive you differently. STOP READING, START DOING. The (2) might take some time as your brain needs some time to adjust to a new thoughts and believes. There is no need to be more sexier than that...

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

Well Chase's advice is mostly accurate and probably some of the best out there, the truth is that game is just one part of the whole thing. You have to take into account how the guy looks and what kind of a setting he is in. A lot of Chase's cold approach advice and basic game did not work for me when I was in a college town a couple years ago, because so much revolved around the social circle and I sucked at that. As soon as I moved to NYC, started approaching a lot of girls, and hitting the dating apps hard; that is when I saw a lot of the advice that Chase gives come to life.

I will forever remember how Ricardus talked about plausible deniability, the "15 Lessons from 10 Years of Getting Girls" is the best post on the site and a must read for all beginners.

In my opinion, put a guy in a major city, tell him to max out his looks, give him the advice on this site, tell him to stop focusing too much on one kind of a woman, and he should see his success skyrocket. As soon as I expanded my preferences, I've had a ton of options.

Chase can give you advice, he can tell you what to do, but having success is more than just having game and knowing it like the back of your hand. I know this site is legit but no way I am trying this stuff in small town Utah.

 

[Yhaceed]

@ Drck

With My first girlfriend i think I actually asked her if i could kiss her and she forgave me and kissed me anyway. I don't know if she would have either way but that doesn't make a difference because it happened after I had done it the "wrong" way. My next gf was kind of aggressive and was on top of me in my car as we drove back to her house. I didn't want to lose my virginity that night but I could have definitely done a lot more than I did. But I also did the wrong things that night since I was basically just a nice guy with hardly any conversation skills. My point is I can see the value in keeping it simple but here on GC you get advice that you might not have in a long time. For example it's been years since I was told to make eye contact with people. And it's not often you hear you should be well groomed (clothing, neat facial hair, etc). However if you want to flirt (which involves chase frames) with a girl you can get guidelines here and start to figure it out right now or you can wait a long time til you see it and learn it in person. I asked my friend when we were teenagers how he does it and he said he just makes girls laugh. Well that didn't help me because I'm not a comedian and it didn't tell me how the guys doing it actually do it. But you can learn about it here on GC. And you would also learn that you don't have to be a comedian because lots of people will laugh when you're being yourself (or maybe I got that here on the boards) So yeah I agree keep it simple and have fun but many things here you can put into practice right now or you can use variations of the same idea or go in all kinds of directions that will come from you. Basically I don't want to get technical but I think that shouldn't mean we throw all the techniques out.

~Yhaceed

 

[Drck]

Yhaceed, look at this:

With My first girlfriend i think I actually asked her if i could kiss her and she forgave me and kissed me anyway. I don't know if she would have either way but that doesn't make a difference because it happened after I had done it the "wrong" way
>>>> That's what I said, if the girl likes you she will forgive you many things. Many guys here are stressing out about not knowing or not doing enough... that's a non-sense.... a guy can make many mistakes and she will still forgive him...

My next gf was kind of aggressive and was on top of me in my car as we drove back to her house. I didn't want to lose my virginity that night but I could have definitely done a lot more than I did. But I also did the wrong things that night since I was basically just a nice guy with hardly any conversation skills.
>>>> But see, that is also exactly what I said. You have to "want sex". If you wanted sex it would have happened, she was up to it, she was ready, but you kept back... And again, what wrong things have you done? She was on top of you, she wanted sex - and you are talking about what went wrong....??? See, you are overthinking and overanalyzing, you are getting lost in technicals... it's useless.... you did everything RIGHT except you didn't want to have sex... SEE HOW EASY WOULD IT BE if you only pull your dick out? SIMPLE AS THAT, no more seduction was needed... She didn't care whether you are an asshole or nice guy, provider or lover, great conversionalist or non-talker - she wanted sex WITH YOU, just the way you are/were... Again, keep it easy, keep it simple, cut all the seduction crap out. You don't really need it... if you "wanted sex" she was there and ready...

My point is I can see the value in keeping it simple but here on GC you get advice that you might not have in a long time. For example it's been years since I was told to make eye contact with people. And it's not often you hear you should be well groomed (clothing, neat facial hair, etc).
>>>> Yea, but again this is all under fundamentals... Simple as that... most fundamentals can be done fairly easy, within short period of time...

However if you want to flirt (which involves chase frames) with a girl you can get guidelines here and start to figure it out right now or you can wait a long time til you see it and learn it in person
>>>> Again, you are getting ahead of yourself, you are making it too complicated... You don't need to flirt with the girl at all, as a matter of fact, flirting can be counterproductive... cut it out, you don't need it, stop flirting...

I asked my friend when we were teenagers how he does it and he said he just makes girls laugh. Well that didn't help me because I'm not a comedian and it didn't tell me how the guys doing it actually do it. But you can learn about it here on GC.
>>>> Nah, you don't have to be a clown to get a girl or make her laugh. Not at all. Be positive (avoid negative topics, never talk bad about others), smile here and there, be open-minded... that's all you need.... don't try to impress the girl with anything, don't try to be funny, don't try to make her laugh.... don't try to impress her in any other way, just be open minded and positive... cut all the other crap out, you don't need it...

 

[Bboy100]

As an aside, who is qualified to interpret social science results? The scientists themselves? Never met a sociology or psychology professor in my life who had anything close to good game. And who's to say their information is even accurate? I don't care how good your P-value is, I'll take a natural's opinion over it all. Surveys and questionnaires might be inaccurate. Participants may change their behavior, knowing it's being recorded. I mean, do we need Ph.D's to write material? Lol. And this perspective means that pretty much everything before the science boom of the modern era, no one knew anything. That seems suspect to me. All Casanova had was anecdote, ain't no social science papers being published in 1600's Italy, but he was still smashing royalty. Keep your science, I'll take the pussy

Sorry, I didn't see that you wrote this second part. So just adding to my previous point about citations. Yes, people have been having sex since before science existed. I'm not saying you can't come up with good advice without science. I'm saying its hard to verify if what you say is true. Also, good advice which is also backed up by credibly interpreted science is clearer and more direct. And yes, its possible that their information is false. But its 1000x more likely to be true than the subjective, contextual, bias experience of one man or a small group of people.

As a side note, how many psychologists have you met? As an example, did you know Einstein was basically a pussy magnet? Granted, he wasn't a psychologist. But he falls in the same category of guys.
But I'll grant you that. Most of them probably do have shit game. But that doesn't mean what they're saying is wrong. Just means they can't apply it correctly cause they don't have enough experience. And besides, their job wouldn't be to come up with material for the product lol. The writer can still say what he wants to say. But if he's going to use research (which he should if he wants his advice to be competitive), it would help to have someone verify that he's interpreting the works he's citing and applying it to his ideas correctly.