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Cro-Magnon Man
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Date on Saturday with Little Bolivian

Nice date with this girl. Under 5 foot tall latina shortie that I found on Hinge. From the very start when she got into my car she was throwing shit tests and testing my frame as much as possible. First it was complaining about me chewing gum. Then it was about the music and how she wanted to change it. Then it was about the location of the bar and location of where we are seating inside the bar, then where we played pool, and on and on. Each time I held my frame and didn't take her seriously which is the way to handle it and no doubt her attraction increased.

But, she was determined not to bang on the first date. For a latina she has spent too much time in western Europe and America and she has the same disagreeable and generally pain-in-the-ass attitude as many women from the west, as evidenced by all the shit tests.

Still, we had a good time playing pool and dancing. It was quality time spent overall. There was a lot of sexual tension.

The problem is, I'm simply not that interested in following up too much to continue the connection. Physically she just isn't my type, she isn't high enough on the attraction scale to really make me be excited about her.

And, I'm starting to realize this is happening a lot with my online leads, where my own interest is lukewarm at best. I need to figure out how to increase the quality of my funnel. Going abroad will do that easily, but here in the States I need to think of different strategies.

The AI photos are helping increase the number of matches, but I do get a lot of women in their late 30's and 40's swiping right on me that I simply do not find too desireable. What do I need to do to get the younger and hotter ones more consistently?

Some ideas I have kicking around currently are:

1.) Gaming in places where these girls congregate, daygame on college campuses for example or other target rich environments.
2.) Instagram DMs
3.) Applying filters on dating apps.

Or is it simply the case that dating in America has reached a point where the returns are getting low and I need to be very selective about who I go on dates with? Certainly I will save some time and money if I reduce the number of dates. Food for thought.
 

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Cro-Magnon Man
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Currently in Medellin on this New Years Eve-eve.

Every time I come to this country, I am blown away by the women. It’s an incredible place to meet, date, romance and have sex with incredibly beautiful Colombianas that are eager to meet a high quality man. Medellin appears to have a little more girls looking for pay for play interactions compared to Cali or Bogotá, and of course there are the stories of dudes getting drugged and robbed similar to what happened to me in Bogotá back in August. But if you can navigate this, the experiences you can have with beautiful Colombianas are second to none.

My programmed stay in Medellín is for five days. Today is my last day. In the time I was here, I met two women who I successfully romanced and took back to my hotel for sex.

I could have easily gone for more but decided to cap it at two and see both women again for repeat sessions. I prefer and find it more fulfilling to have deeper connections with these incredible females, and build it over repeat dates. This also decreases the chance of meeting the wrong girl who might not have the best intentions.

That being said, there is the dynamic in which they seem to know these interactions are shorter term, and that I am seeing other women as well. They will ask probing questions that I dodge until they stop asking. But never ask directly - are you seeing someone else? Problably because they know what the answer will be. They know they are sharing me and while it bugs them slightly it’s not enough for them to not see me.

I crave a longer term connection with one of these women. But I also crave sex with many women. It’s a conflict within me that explains the troubles with my ex and something I am exploring with my therapist.

Like I’ve stated before, my longer term vision is to figure out some way to maximize my time down here. There is almost no point in thinking too much about dating too much in the states now - western women are broken and the market down here is 10x higher quality. Not to say I will close myself off to women in the states, but I plan on being highly selective. More so than in the last.

It may take many more years. I ran into some other dudes that live in south Florida and have relationships with Colombian women - it works since the flight is pretty short. Could be another option on the future.

In the meantime, tomorrow I head back to Bogotá. And more travel is planned in 2025. The joys of having minimal responsibilities as an adult male!
 

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Cro-Magnon Man
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Back from Colombia. Snowing outside. But my heart is full after connecting with these incredible Colombianas.

Bogotá was a little slower this time. It appears around New Years it is often a bit slower in the bigger cities, I also experienced this in Cali last year. People go out into the country to be with their families.

But it didn't matter. I saw one of the women I met back in August for repeat sessions. And had a date with a new girl that I didn't close, but despite how feminine and soft and cute she was I'm not sure the connection was as strong as it was with the ones in Medellín.

Modifying my planned trip to Istanbul later this year to make it shorter just so I can have more time to go back down to LaTam. One of the Medellín girls I even see longer term potential in, as crazy as that sounds.

Feeling much better after this trip to be honest. We will see if the post trip blues come back.
 

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I had 14 lays in 2024. Which by total lay count is in fact the most successful year I've had since I started keeping track in 2019.

4 of these lays were in Colombia, and generally higher quality than the girls I banged in the United States. This again tells me about how I prefer latinas and the dating market in LatAm in general. 2025 will be a year in which I will be much more selective regarding who I go on dates with, since I no longer want to be in situations where I find myself on a date and spending my time and money with a girl I am not 100% into. My standards are high. 2025 will be about quality over quantity. Which may mean the number of dates/lays may decrease, and that is okay. Less dates means less time and money wasted.

I've only been on one date so far in 2025, with a Bolivian girl who is here on a tourist visa, speaks no English, and may in fact become an illegal "alien" soon if she doesn't go back to her country. Super cute though. I am a bit suspicious of her, she may be emotionally closed off, but I would be open to another date with her.

It's been a busy January with work. Leaning into my job as it keeps me busy and active with all the travelling. This weekend was chill though. Doing a better job adjusting to single life now in 2025. I miss my ex a lot less, especially after my last trip to Colombia in which I connected with some incredible women. I am already planning a return trip in June 2025.

Biggest sticking point is making sure I approach consistently. I am tired of being fleeced by dating apps so I am not paying for Premium anything for a bit. Not until I really sense I need the extra volume, and I am not there yet. Bumble is the only app in the United States which gives generally higher quality matches which may be worth paying for occasionally.

But, I will work on getting my approach volume up first. Got a few out at the airport on Thursday before my flight to Nashville. One woman was nervous and I didn't pursue after a few minutes, but the other I approached was a young Chinese college student sitting in the terminal by herself who seemed very happy I approached (uncharacteristic for Asians). Wasn't from my city unfortunately, only in the region for the weekend and was going to travel far with her friends. Got her IG.
 

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Schmoozing today at a biotech conference since I got sent there by my company without a clear reason. I am taking it as a special challenge and not asking too many questions.

I was vibing with a young student at the exhibition hall after the next session/talk had already started. She was cute, but nothing spectacular that I haven't had before. Problably a 6 - 6.5 at most. Maybe a 7 on her best day.

She was super compliant. I could tell. She hung around with me in the mostly empty hall after everyone had gone back in to listen to the next talk. She was letting me lead the interaction, and the fact that she had not excused herself after almost every single other person had left communicated a lot to me. I could have gone to the next step, but I decided I wasn't interested in her. I am asking myself if I should have been.

On one hand, such a girl could be fun and practice. But I also don't really care anymore. At almost 40, it's a been-there done-that type of mentality.

The thing is, I have super high standards these days. I want the top 1% of women. There was a super stunner sitting at her laptop after a talk today. I don't know why I didn't open. Maybe the fear that it would be seen as too 'pick up' like, which is silly since it would have made little difference. Yes it may have come across as uncalibrated, but it wouldn't have had any impact even if that had been the outcome. It was absolutely a doable approach. Was hoping to catch her later, but unfortunately didn't see her at the reception. Just solidifies that one must open right away and not wait, especially if the girl is highly desirable.

In the meantime, will continue to take full advantage of the free food.
 

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Cro-Magnon Man
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Two approaches missed today:

1.) Beautiful brunette that I saw TWICE downtown while in and out of the conference. The first time I was busy writing an email on my phone before I noticed her passing. We made eye contact. Would have required quickly changing my momemtum and making the decision to approach, while I failed to do.

Then, I saw her again, again unexpectedly. I was going into the metro station and began going down the moving escalator, and when I looked up there she was again going in the opposite direction (going up out of the station). It was unfortunate since if I had entered the station 20 seconds before it would have been perfect for the approach, but since I was already on the escalator approaching her at that point would have been mega awkward since it would have required quickly going against the escalator movement to get back up to her level. We made eye contact again and I gave her a smile and nod. If I had approached the first time, the second interaction may have been very different or not have happened at all.

2.) Gorgeous and stylishly dressed red head walking down the street in my neighborhood, in front of a busy string of bars. She was walking at a brisk pace. Approaching her would have required the old front stop, and overcoming my spotlight effect anxiety which I particularly struggle with (approaching in full view of multiple other people).

How do I banish this approach anxiety that even after years of approaching still persists to this day?
 

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>7 months post breakup with my ex, I feel the fire growing again in me. That killer instinct that only comes with singlehood/no access to a regular pussy that a relationship provides.

Perhaps it's also the restlessness from the missed opportunities last week (see above post). I've been approaching every day in February, at least one a day which is a nice start. It is easy once you committ to getting out at least one approach when you see a girl that is at least mildly attractive. Don't have to be stunners. No solid leads yet, as expected around here with the tougher market. More volume and refinement of technique is required. But it doesn't matter since I view the approaching itself as a success.

FR - Hot Latina MILF.

Also went on a date last night with a woman in her 30's that very much had the "hot latina milf" look. Found her through facebook dating. She looked kinda like Belanna Torres in Star Trek Voyager, but better. Had been married for 20 years before going through a bad divorce with a cheating husband, according to her story.

Since she lived over an hour away, I decided to try the two-date model, meeting halfway first date. I go back and forth about this strategy, it means the goal isn't sex on the first date and I am intentionally setting myself up with bad logistics. I've gotten friend zoned on these first dates before without ever getting a chance to set up a second, and I'm not entirely sure why.

Earlier in 2024, I tried something similar with the "Pacific Islander" girl. This one was a bit different since the vibe wasn't so overtly 'relationshipy', but there was some light touching and mutual attraction, projecting future dates, and no kiss close at the end (I did the cheek kiss close instead).

We will see if it works this time and I can secure a second date.
 

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Last month or so has been busy with work and travel (as always), and a lot of self-care and reflection.

Two date model with "Hot Latina MILF" didn't work out. She ghosted, problably because I didn't fit the archetype of the guy she was looking for.

I really don't have a good track record with the two date model lately, if/when I attempt it next time will have to rethink it and make it into more of a quick 30 min coffee date rather than longer drinks at the rooftop bar.

Cute Nurse Blonde

This girl I found on Facebook dating. Very chatty and very invested. She lives about a 90 minute drive away from me. We met up a few weeks ago when I was close to her city for work.

While slightly taller, I did find her attractive. She had the scandinavian look and yet all-american blonde girl vibe. She was a fantastic dancer. And clearly, she was attracted to me. We met up at one dance venue close to her and then went (in seperate cars) to another venue. At the second venue, drinks at the bar escalated to make out and physical play, which then led to me pulling her to my car and trying to close there (since I didn't have logistics). Parking lot was nice and big and my car was isolated and away from any other car (parked deliberately like this as I was already thinking about the pull driving up to the place). Back seats were down which made it ok-enough for sex.

Put my fingers in her pussy and moved them around to discover a big tampon. Didn't put P in V, as I ran into some LMR in the car that I don't believe I handled properly (too dismissive).

Following the laws of female psychology about what happens in this situation (as in, when one escalates hard but DOESNT fuck on the first date) she was hesitant/unwilling to meet up and come to my city for another go. I think there is still potential for this one in the future especially if I convince her to go to a dance event with me, but I don't care either way.

Colombian Mami

This Colombiana I discovered with a vegan dating app local to me. Logistics are so ideal, they literally could NOT be better as she lives down the street from me.

And yet, this one has been coy. First date some local venues. Second date straight to the house cooking date. And, I just went on the third date with her and the furthest we have gone is kissing. My interest is lukewarm but I may give her one more go in an unprecedented fourth date. We will see.

Other Stuff

My daygame frequency has been pathetic, but I do get approaches out once in a while if they are optimal. Most of my leads still coming from online. I could complain about the market around here but I would sound like a broken record at this point. I plan to spend as much time abroad and LatAm as possible in the future.

Planning a trip to Istanbul for another dance congress. I have been building my Instagram lately with videos of me dancing with various women. Not only are the videos good for social media, but they also create an instant connection with the woman and mandatory instagram/whatsapp exchanges. It's a strategy I can't believe I haven't utilized in the past. If the connection is good, the second time we take a video.

The last event I went to was a lot of fun. Connected with some fabulous females on the dance floor that live in other places. These events are great for networking and meeting quality women, but not necessarily great for fast hookups. Istanbul will be amazing to connect with good women, especially Russians.

At the last event, I met a stunning Ukranian who I believe I matched with on Tinder years ago but never met up with her. She is still a beginner, but we did a video together and that has created a connection. Got her instagram and whatsapp and we have been exchanging flirty messages. She lives in Florida.

Speaking of, I may move to Florida shortly. It seems to make more financial sense. And it's closer to latin america. I am tapped out of the DC area. And why the fuck not, I'm a single 37 year old with minimal responsibilities outside of my job and I can do whatever the fuck I want.
 

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Ex Girlfriend is still an open, unresolved mental loop

I write this right before I embark on my next Istanbul adventure. Plane leaves in a few hours. This time I actually tried to get a few other dancers to come with me but largely failed, except for 1 or 2 people I know that I will meet there at some point. People are flaky and unreliable, especially when it involves travelling halfway across the planet and spending a lot of money. It was my attempt to distract myself with fake friends to take with me on this trip. Attempts to fill a mental void that still persists within me.

Unfortunately, I still think a lot about my ex girlfriend. I am looking deep within myself and trying to understand why this is the case. When I think about her, I still feel an immense sadness, even though I was the one that ended the relationship in June 2024.

June 2024. 9 months later I am still struggling. The feelings come and go like waves, but they are still persistent.

At this point, I am confident she has moved on. Gone are the periodic check ins and occasional texts I would still get from her. She no longer checks my social media. The female propensity to move on has kicked in, despite how hard she tried to get me to stay. That is one of the reasons why my heart is still broken from it. The fact that I led us to this outcome. And I fear I left behind a broken woman, who has probably embraced man-hating western ideology and will break her future relationships as well.

The truth is, the entire situation was my fault. That is our imperative as men, which is to understand that the way our relationships turn out (and indeed, everything that happens to us in life) is a result of how we react to our circumstances. There is no one else to blame but me.

I was seduced by her love bombing and her disney princess fantasy and I was unable/unwilling to have the hard conversations in late 2021, when she first asked for exclusivity, and when I should have steered the ship in a different direction. She seduced me with the fantasy and I was addicted to the oxytocin hits from her love bombing. She made feel loved every day, and yet this is what blinded me to the truth.

My attempts later to course correct were too little too late. The frames had been set, and it was impossible to change course sustainably no matter how hard I tried. As I tried to course correct, the love bombing continued, but then the fights and conflicts increased to a weekly and sometimes daily basis. It was a terrible, nightmarish dynamic that was miserable and yet simultaneously incredibly difficult to let go, because I was addicted to her. That is why with a lot of anguish I ended the relationship in June 2024. And to this day, the trauma from this experience still affects me.

Another reason why I still think about her now is clearly the fact that 2025 has been a pretty dry year so far pussy wise, therefore my mind wanders back to the woman that used to give me the affection I love to receive. I have zero lays so far this year, when this time last year I already had 4, despite the on/off 'break' my ex and I were having at the time. It has been more a time of introspection, reflection, charting a course for the future and understanding who I am and what I truly want. I lost sight of all of this during the chaos of the relationship with my ex.

I hope 2025 is the year in which I achieve more clarity of vision and truly heal from this relationship. And carry it's lessons with me forward so that I never make these mistakes ever again.
 

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Ex Girlfriend is still an open, unresolved mental loop

I write this right before I embark on my next Istanbul adventure. Plane leaves in a few hours. This time I actually tried to get a few other dancers to come with me but largely failed, except for 1 or 2 people I know that I will meet there at some point. People are flaky and unreliable, especially when it involves travelling halfway across the planet and spending a lot of money. It was my attempt to distract myself with fake friends to take with me on this trip. Attempts to fill a mental void that still persists within me.

Unfortunately, I still think a lot about my ex girlfriend. I am looking deep within myself and trying to understand why this is the case. When I think about her, I still feel an immense sadness, even though I was the one that ended the relationship in June 2024.

June 2024. 9 months later I am still struggling. The feelings come and go like waves, but they are still persistent.

At this point, I am confident she has moved on. Gone are the periodic check ins and occasional texts I would still get from her. She no longer checks my social media. The female propensity to move on has kicked in, despite how hard she tried to get me to stay. That is one of the reasons why my heart is still broken from it. The fact that I led us to this outcome. And I fear I left behind a broken woman, who has probably embraced man-hating western ideology and will break her future relationships as well.

The truth is, the entire situation was my fault. That is our imperative as men, which is to understand that the way our relationships turn out (and indeed, everything that happens to us in life) is a result of how we react to our circumstances. There is no one else to blame but me.

I was seduced by her love bombing and her disney princess fantasy and I was unable/unwilling to have the hard conversations in late 2021, when she first asked for exclusivity, and when I should have steered the ship in a different direction. She seduced me with the fantasy and I was addicted to the oxytocin hits from her love bombing. She made feel loved every day, and yet this is what blinded me to the truth.

My attempts later to course correct were too little too late. The frames had been set, and it was impossible to change course sustainably no matter how hard I tried. As I tried to course correct, the love bombing continued, but then the fights and conflicts increased to a weekly and sometimes daily basis. It was a terrible, nightmarish dynamic that was miserable and yet simultaneously incredibly difficult to let go, because I was addicted to her. That is why with a lot of anguish I ended the relationship in June 2024. And to this day, the trauma from this experience still affects me.

Another reason why I still think about her now is clearly the fact that 2025 has been a pretty dry year so far pussy wise, therefore my mind wanders back to the woman that used to give me the affection I love to receive. I have zero lays so far this year, when this time last year I already had 4, despite the on/off 'break' my ex and I were having at the time. It has been more a time of introspection, reflection, charting a course for the future and understanding who I am and what I truly want. I lost sight of all of this during the chaos of the relationship with my ex.

I hope 2025 is the year in which I achieve more clarity of vision and truly heal from this relationship. And carry it's lessons with me forward so that I never make these mistakes ever again.
^ this is normal... the sadness about your ex that is... it will be like that for a while... Your results will drop post break up,, again is normal..
 

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^ this is normal... the sadness about your ex that is... it will be like that for a while... Your results will drop post break up,, again is normal..

Yes Skills you are right. The sadness has lasted a long time. It is the part of me that mourns the lost love.

The rational part of me knows deep down that this woman was not the one for me. That is why I ended the relationship with her. But, she pushed all the right buttons and 'got' me in 2021 as I was reaching an SMV peak and I failed to manage it properly in it's infancy. It was too much in her frame in the beginning, which caused significant destabilization down the road. The mistakes I made in the beginning in the Fall of 2021 when I should have made different choices cascaded and ultimately lead to the demise. But, the love was real. I have felt the pain of this relationship for many years, as the breakup process was gradual. We even got back together for a few months before I finally ended it (again).

It sucks, but us men take longer to overcome breakups. Studies show this. That has always been the case for me in my experience. Women have a greater ability to bounce back quickly. They have to, their evolution demands it. I have noticed the shift in her finally as she has moved on.

I still think about her most days, 9 months later, but I do not feel as sad now as I used to. It will take some more time to surpass this completely. Hoping that moving to a new city will help finish the healing process.

Istanbul

Just returned from there. What an amazing place. A unique city where east meets west. A city of contrasts. European feel, but not quite Europe. Many Russians and even some Persian girls. An international hub.

I will highlight the contrasts. One thing that was apparent immediately is that dating apps stopped working. I was hardly getting any matches at all. We can only speculate why. Perhaps it's not a market a latino does well in. I was expecting maybe something closer to Colombia, where it's an avalanche of hotties. Even here in the United States I get a trickle of matches of varying (average low) quality every day.

I had maybe 2 or 3 flaky matches the entire week++ I was there, which was perplexing.

But, in contrast, cold approach appeared more fruitful. I did not approach as much as I should have. My volume has been shit and I need to experiment with new ways to increase it to stay more consistent. More on this later. But in the 8 or so approaches I did in the three days that I was in the city proper (not at the dance event), 2 of them were instant dates:

1.) Solo Russian tourist, opened on the Galata bridge. This should have been better, but I self sabotaged here. If I were serious I would have taken her for drinks immediately, since she was game for it. Instead I stuck to my original plan of going to see the Blue Mosque and I took her with me. It became too friendly. But, it was nonetheless an awesome experience.

2.) My buddy and I opened two girls on Istiklal avenue. Black hair, one of them in a short black dress that I was immediately into. My friend had actually opened them first, and they were about to blow him out, but I came in with good energy and salvaged the interaction. Turns out they were Iranians, came straight from Tehran. Turkey is one of the few countries where Iranians can travel without a visa.

A third girl comes out of the store and joins them. I propose we all get drinks. At first, the third girl was hesitant and was about to veto the whole thing, but she came around I believe when she noticed how much my girl (let's call her Lisa) was interested in continuing the interaction and getting the drinks. So she relented and the 5 of us proceeded to a bar.

Unfortunately, my buddy recommended a shitty venue, and we couldn't keep them for more than an hour or so before the third girl insisted on leaving. In hindsight I should have changed locations sooner when I realized the place wasn't good (and also helped keep them moving).

But, my girl Lisa was sitting close the entire time and was happy to tell me a lot about her country. Texting me well afterwards too, more time in Istanbul could have perhaps led to a reunion.

Just means I may have to go back to Istanbul. Too many Russian, Turkish, and Persian girls.

Approaches today and the need to warm up to be in 'state'

Back in my home turf, I walked around for a while on errands today and passed up a lot of approaches, feeling pretty shitty about myself.

It was only after I walked around for a while and warmed up a bit with passive compliments that I finally did the first proper approach, which then led to three more in QUICK succession. Two of them number closes. The first one ended up being a number close in front of her parents (lol). The second one, awesome girl, future projection of the date. But - street phone numbers from my current home turf are notoriously flaky, so I am not expecting much.

I learned (or relearned/refreshed) something about myself, which is that I really have to make sure to warm up and be as social as often as possible to really have that approach muscle ready to go.

Tom Torero I remember was a big believer in drive by compliments as warm ups. I think this is key to effectively overcoming AA. Among other things to reframe cold approach in my mind that I am reading on this journals board that I have to experiment with.
 

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RDU airport approaches

Was at Raleigh/Durham international today and had plenty of extra time. Got out two approaches.

1.) Asian college girl that I opened from the side as we were walking in the same direction. Friendly but also not really invested. Got hit with the boyfriend objection.

2.) another younger Asian looking intently at the airport monitors. I opened her with “going somewhere interesting?”

what happened next was great. Initially I thought this girl was a 5 or maybe 6 at best. But she was happy I approached and her smile was broad. She actually looked a lot more attractive as she was looking at me with a big grin on her face. Another reminder that girls love to be approached.

After a few minutes of conversation I find out she lives in middle America in a place I would probably seldom visit. Got her phone number anyway but it probably wont go anywhere.

Flight was cancelled so maybe in the morning I will get out some more airport approaches and continue the momentum from the last few days.
 
a good date brings a smile to your lips... and hers

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Another weekend in my current home turf city (Washington DC), at least until I move to FL in a few months.

I went out today to the touristy area with all the monuments and memorials, to get some steps in, to post some Instagram content with the nice weather now, and to hopefully get a few approaches in.

The problem was, there honestly weren't too many viable sets. I've had successful outings in the national mall area before with my favorite wing, but today just wasn't the day. A lot of families, big groups of 3+, and couples. Funny to observe these boyfriends/husbands taking solo pics of their girlfriends/wives, which I'm sure at least some of them will be posted to social media to draw attention from other men.

I did approach two. The first was a solo spanish girl, cute but not stunning. I could tell straight away from her body language it wasn't going to go well - she just wasn't all that receptive and rejected me when I tried to close. The second girl I thought was brazilian at first but turns out she is Indian. Pleasant and friendly conversation (she was smiling), and we talked a bit about travelling in India, but I got hit with the boyfriend objection.

Apart from these two there honestly weren't too many that drew my eye - potentially a group of three asians sitting on the grass I could have approached stands out in my memory, one of them was cute, I still often chicken out from group sets like that when I am by myself. It is easier with a wing. It's always easier with a wing.

These two approaches happened after walking several kilometers and killing 1-2 hours, which again brings to mind how high effort and low return daygame can be if you don't do it properly. Perhaps I need to be focusing on different times of the week and different locations. One experiment I want to try is going out into the morning during rush hour or during the evening during evening rush hour during the week and stopping girls on their way to/from work.

But honestly, I am a big believer is diversifying lead generation in 2025. It cannot just be cold approach - that would be like trying to sell a product with only door to door marketing and without using the internet, and without anyone ever hearing about the product before. It can work but it's an uphill battle.

The work I did on my dating app profile (all the way back in 2021, shortly before meeting my ex) continues to pay some dividends as I get a steady stream of matches here in the states, some of them decent quality. I also plan on leaning into dance to build social circle/status, just like I was back in 2021 before I met my ex and it was all put on ice for her. So, slowly rebuilding myself into the guy I was back then, and hopefully will surpass what I achieved soon.

Tonight I also have a date with a ridiculously attractive Russian dancer I met about a month ago in Florida, who happens to be in town this weekend. Her texting has been high investment. I set it up with optimal logistics, so depending on the vibe I might try a fast close. We will see how it goes.
 

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Opening on Moving Escalators -
I've had a few good successful opens lately just because the girl got onto a moving escalator behind me. I was able to turn around both times and simply comment about her in some way. Led to good conversations both times.

Airport opens - Airports are one of the highest concentration environments around, and I am in them often due to travel for my job. Unfortunately, I still struggle from the spotlight effect - if the girl has too many people around her within earshot, opening is very hard.

I was at ATL the other day and passed an incredibly sexy blonde, scandinavian-looking woman in a black body suit. We were going in opposite directions in the terminal. Made eye contact.

In order for me to approach her, I would have had to turn around and walk/jog in other direction with my carry on luggage, to catch up to her and open. It takes massive activation energy to do that. But there really is no other alternative in that situation.

Notes from a few recent dates

My momentum with dating is picking up. I've also had a few dates lately worth commenting on briefly. ALL of these tried to complicate my logistics, but I succeeded in setting up the dates close to my crib just by saying "I've love to show you around x neighborhood". There is no point otherwise if logistics suck, no more "meeting half way" BS.

Hot Russian dancer from FL - This was the first date I've had in a while and while the vibe was good overall, I should have been more sexual/escalated more. There is no point otherwise. Sometimes, I forget to lean into my male primal nature, understanding that women are sexual and want to be fucked by strong men. I should have been much clearer that I was attracted to her and wanted to bang her, rather than leaning too much into a friends-vibe.

This was a lead that I met dancing in the field and while I think the game required is slightly different than those girls I find online or on the street, there are some core principles I should always stick to. I won't see her again unless I go down to her turf in FL, which could happen at some point in the future.

Nigerian cutie from Bumble - Cute but my interest was lukewarm. Standard two-venue strategy, but she refused the bounceback. To be honest unlikely I will see this one again.

Horny indian from Coffee Meets Bagel - This girl ended up being a sex fiend. Two venue strategy, bounceback home from the second bar, some token LMR before her inner sexual goddess was unleashed and she wanted to fuck non-stop for hours. The funny thing was, there was very minimal signals that she would be like that during the date. She responded neutral to my sex talk routines and even had some token LMR (do you do this every night?) before her clothes came off. Just goes to show that women's true desires are often masked, likely for societal and reputational reasons.
 

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Lately I have been very focused on keeping the social muscle active. This is achieved by using drive by compliments as often as possible and opening random people in conversation whenever a good opportunity arises. Not necessarily for pick up, although it's helpful when I am already 'warm' so I can approach that hottie the moment I see her. Can be done daily. I think it's working to get me in a more social state so I can open more consistently. Still some work to be done but I am getting better.

Still a lot of flakes from street # closes around here in this turf. I think it is partially the market and culture around here, but my approach could problably use some tweaking as well. I was recently inspired by some other comments in other journals on this board to focus less on street stops and more on drive by compliments in other locations, like shops or grocery stores.

It feels a lot less mentally daunting if the goal is simply to deliver a compliment and gauge a reaction, not necessarily to do the entire London Daygame Model inside of the produce section in a grocery store. I had a very nice experience like this at a whole foods where I was already warmed up from complimenting a guys jacket 10 seconds earlier, I saw a blonde MILF (that ended up being married) and delivered a compliment telling her she looked great, she lit up like a christmas tree.

I am also going to experiment a bit more with Instagram closes rather than whatsapp/phone number closes that really don't seem to work all that well around here. I have gotten decent feedback on my instagram and I think it may be a better strategy for daygame since once the girl follows me she can see a lot of my life and fun travels, which may be better than just being a phone number from a random guy on the street she talked to for a few minutes.

But like I keep saying - it is also the subpar US dating market. Soon my long term plans to spend more time in LatAm will be implemented which will undoubtedly lead to more sexual success.

At the moment most of my dates still come from dating apps, and I had two recently worth mentioning.

Serious Peruana from Bumble- I call her serious because the entire date her vibe was quite subdued and she barely smiled. There was something going on behind the scenes with her. This was clearly another one of those latinas, originally from Lima, Peru, that has spent far too much time in the United States and now has been negatively influenced by western culture and feminism. In Peru she would be average at best in looks, but here she is problably slightly above average.

She ended up ending the date before I even bounced her to the second venue, saying that she had to wake up early the following day. So clearly something happened that made her uninterested. I think here potentially there was an energy mismatch. I tried to break through her cold shell with the typical sexual spikes I use and some jokes and they worked to make her laugh to some extent but it also highlighted the mismatch in energy. Potentially I should have been more subdued myself to match before the second venue. But to be honest, it's not even worth analyzing too much since it may have had nothing to do with me, or been beyond my control. She hinted at meeting again this weekend but I knew clearly it was problably an act, as she has ghosted since the date. Predictable.

Sexy Single Mom from Coffee Meets Bagel. - This woman did her best to try to put me in a box before the date even started, playing a 50 questions game about expectations that I mostly dodged (and this problably worked to increase her attraction). Again, this is something you run into more here in the US where women are far more annoying to deal with.

She shows up in a low cut dress showing off her big tits, on purpose. But the chemistry is on right away - a lot of touching, hand holding, and direct eye contact and we sit next to each other at a bar which allows us to sit face to face when we turned towards each other with nothing in between.

Skipping through some details, I end up pulling this girl back but I do not put P in V, despite a lot of other sexual play (she gave me a hand job). Too much LMR I wasn't able to break through. Because of this I'm not sure about the chances of seeing her again. This is a current hole in my game - I get LMR too often and I am often not able to break through it. Still need to do some work to figure this out.
 

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I got laid tonight, first by a new feisty taiwanese girl and then by the Indian girl that came over for a repeat session.

However, I do not like how it happened. The taiwanese girl I wasn't sure I was going to get. With her words, she was constantly telling me to fuck off, that she doesn't like latino guys, that she hates my vegan diet, etc. But I should have known better, since her body language (lots of touch) indicated she was comfortable with me and would eventually be comfortable enough for sex. Indeed, I kinda did. But I was also getting tired of her games and LMR.

Enter Indian girl, who was keen to get fucked again. As Indian girl was coming over, I finally banged taiwanese girl, and then I had to kick her out within 30 minutes to avoid the two girls running into each other.

It's sad, because this fast ejection means I problably won't see her again. I would have loved to spend more time with her and discover her softer side, and I bet she doesn't feel great right now. May the pick up gods forgive me for my sins. I hate it when this happens. I did something similar to another girl in Colombia one time.

The indian girl on the other hand went home very satisfied.
 

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Flaky Daygame Numbers

The overwhelming majority of the time, the numbers I get here (eastern US) in the field are flaky. It happened again with a nice interaction with a blonde, slightly overweight cutie with glasses that I decided to open the other day on the sidewalk after we made eye contact and started walking in the same direction. No Instagram, so got a number - and of course nothing.

So, it does not matter if the interaction appeared positive, most of the time the girl completely ghosts and I never get a reply. At one point I was keeping track of this and since my approach volume has been increasing lately I might start keeping track again.

So what gives? It’s possible something about me needs tweaking. But as I always say, it might also be partially due to the culture/market around here. In Colombia phone numbers from the street are way less flaky. Just saying.

I will continue to try shooting for Instagrams instead of phone numbers just as an experiment to see if it helps turn this around.

The good thing is, my momentum is clearly increasing. I am doing a lot more approaches and missing less opportunities.

Today there were two, mostly because I had to work a lot and was either at home or working at low volume areas most of the day. The first girl I approached was at the airport looking at the monitors and the airport map looking nice and professional, I commented on her outfit and delivered a couple of more spikes, accusing her of working in the government or for the White House. She didn't really bite, so I ejected without trying to close. Later I wondered if I should have tried regardless of the low chance or maybe just stayed in set longer. Nothing to lose, and low spotlight effect without too many people in the immediate area.

Second girl was sitting in the square in the town I am in tonight, with big headphones on listening to something. I open her and she responds pretty positively. Romanian girl. We talk a bit about her country, although it's a bit too platonic/friendly. Probably because I had just finished dinner and eaten a cannabis gummy. Then, about 3 minutes in another guy comes into the set. She had been waiting there to meet him. I eject pretty quickly like a coward. It would have been the perfect opportunity to try the "oh you guys are the PERFECT couple" move to see if the girl quickly disqualifies it or not.

My social muscle just hasn't been warmed up in a while with that situation. Next time I will do something different.
 
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