Científico's Seduction Chronicles

[oldhabits]

That's interesting they're asking to DTR. Its standard down there for the dude to ask the chick for a relationship, but some times the girls ask. You might want to verify that husband story, because the way you wrote it makes it seem you don't believe it.

 

[Científico]

SJU airport approach

I was in PR visiting family this long weekend. Generally not a place for me to game.

However, at the airport as my flight back to FL was starting to board I spotted a personal 9. This girl was brunette, with brown leggings that really showed how great her ass was and how fit she was. I had to take the shot, and I knew I wouldn’t live with myself if I didn’t.

There was some hesitation/AA because she took a seat in one of those rows in which there was an older woman directly behind her, and another guy with goofy sunglasses on sitting across with full view of the approach. I always struggle with the spotlight effect when approaching at airports. I actually sat down nearby then got up and went to the bathroom, then came back out before finally going up to her and opening.

As she looked at me I saw how bright green and beautiful her eyes were. This is a top girl for me. Turns out she is from Uruguay and lives in my city. I go for the close pretty quickly (too quickly) and she hits me with the all too common boyfriend objection.

As I analyzed the approach afterwards, I realized that I should have thrown in some spikes/teases and not closed so fast. I could have teased her about being in PR just to meet Boricua guys or something. I had time. Maybe would have made a difference, maybe not. But at least I took the shot. That has to be the rule when I am highly attracted to a girl I see in the field, like her.

Instagram overhaul.

While Cold approaching is good to be doing, I recognize that in our modern sexual marketplace other tools are very important.

Instagram is one of these tools, which these days is essentially an advanced dating app. I am considering working with some experts to optimize my Instagram.

The truth is, I see a lot of the men in my family (cousins, brothers) settling with women that are well below them in SMV. I understand why men do this. It’s the hypergamy, the globalized sexual marketplace, the fact that women date up, the rise of pay-for-play with attractive women.

I really don’t see myself settling. Especially after my last relationship in which this was the case, I need a HOT girlfriend. And it’s difficult since most women are not up to par.

I am going to do everything I can to see if I can find her. That includes having the best possible Instagram and dating apps for today’s hyper-competitive market. I think at this point I would rather be single than with a woman I am not super attracted to.

 

[Científico]

I really got to stop talking myself out of approaching sometimes.

I have a phobia of negative feedback. The AA still hasn't gone away. Yes, I know I will look silly sometimes getting rejected on the street, or at an airport, or anywhere public. But I know it doesn't matter. It's happened before and it will continue to happen.

The logical brain knows how silly AA is. But there is another part of my primate brain that still hasn't learned.

 

[Científico]

Had a nice insta-date today. Opened a girl right underneath of the hot Florida midday sun. I was sweating my balls off during the entire approach.

She is a beautiful brunette. I was on my way to the grocery store. Spotted her and turned around immediately and opened. There was no hesitation. I liken it to the fact that there weren’t too many other people around besides me and her, thus no spotlight effect and minimal AA. Maybe she found that sexy. She was smiling a lot during the entire interaction.

Closed her WhatsApp then continued on my business. Got my groceries, then headed back in the opposite direction. During my walk I see her again, again coming in the opposite direction.

As we pass the second time I open her again. I go for the I-date. It was only natural, I had to. In her mind problably she was telling herself stories about fate and being destined to meet me again. She was smiling bright. I ask her to come get some coffee with me right then and she accepts.

I am getting rusty however. First of all, I fail to pick a place that has optimal seating, and end up sitting across from her. I need to prevent this mistake in the future. Also, my conversation game is getting weak. I need to refresh my date routines.

She was very compliant overall but I could see the gears grinding when I offered to take her back to my place. She hesitated before she said no.

Had I sat across from her, I could have touched her more. It would have made a world of difference.

I also perhaps should have continued the date after, maybe offered to walk her to her car and taken her on a walk around a nearby park. Maybe. I could have attempted another pull while touching her more. Instead I chose just to part ways after the venue and go about the rest of the business I had today.

She immediately texts me and says it was great to meet me. I will ping her tomorrow not to lose too much momentum, and try to get her out on another date soon.

 

[Científico]

Last night I was reflecting more on this insta-date I had the other day.

I am fairly convinced that had I run everything properly I could have pulled her. In that moment, she was hyper-compliant and turned on by my masculine approach. I had to continue to turn up the temperature.

Unfortunately, my venue and seating selection was suboptimal. That was the main problem. Much more than my verbals, which could use improvement but I'm conviced weren't the main issue here.

In the modern age, we must strike while the iron is hot. Baddies like her get inundated with attention and have endless options, so it's easy for them to move on. While I will attempt to get her out again, I think chances are low I will see her again. I will try.

It is frustrating since I've made this mistake before - I remember a date with a hot Brazilian from cold approach all the way back in 2020 in which seating across killed the chemistry. Obviously I've had dates in between in which I did things right, but apparently some lessons haven't fully sunk in. So on one hand, it's nice to focus on what I did right in this situation, the fact that I opened fast and went for the insta date when it was obvious that she was available, but it's also frustrating that I need further tweaks to get to the desired result.

I still have some work to do to get to where I want to be as a seducer and capitalize best on these opportunities when they come, especially in this broken American dating market where opportunities like that one are fewer and further between.

Currently have dating apps on pause and just using free versions because I am tired of getting fleeced by them. I still dream of moving to LatAm, a place like Colombia, and being inundated with pussy from the vastly superior dating market. Currently planning on optimizing instagram and getting even better quality photos for both IG and dating apps. Changing location is the best possible move to increase my dating success with hot women, but it problably won't come for another 5-10 years. I must hone my skills and become the best possible version of myself until then.

 

[Científico]

Lunch Date with Gorgeous Chilean

I stumbled upon this woman on a certain infamous dating site that I won't name. She is a beautiful latina - thick lips, bright green eyes, dirty blonde hair. Porn star face, and another one of my 'personal 9s'

I fucked up here. I should have never agreed to take her on a lunch date. I question the wisdom at this point of ever taking a girl on a date where I can't close her or reasonably bring her back to the sex location.

We were chatting for a few weeks before the date because she is fresh off the boat from Chile and working a restaurant job to make money. Her hours are long and heavy. We had some lunch at a quaint but delish vegan spot I know, and I drove her around, then dropped her off at her job right before her shift started.

Now, she isn't responding, meaning something I did (or didn't do) killed the attraction. My sense is it was the lack of escalation, but there may be more.

Regardless, it is precisely this type of date that I want to avoid in the future. I need to stop wasting time on first dates to nowhere like this.

Cold Approach and Insta Date Pull Home

Approached another woman in a public park close to my crib. She was immediately receptive.

Cute, and fit, but late 30's like me, and unfortunately her smoking habit is causing her to age faster. She wouldn't be a girl I would want to invest too much time in but good otherwise to practice a potentially fast pull.

After the open, took her to a nearby Kava bar and we got some cannabis seltzers, then back to my place for music. Unfortunately she wouldn't bang, but still, I am very pleased that I got that far with a woman on the same day. It was a great reference experience.

New Batch of Photos for Insta and Dating Apps in the works

Did a nice photoshoot with my buddy the other day and learning some amateur editing to really improve my photos, both from years past and from the recent shoot. Many are scoring high on photofeeler (8+). Will be using them immediately on dating apps and gradually rolling them out on IG to see how things improve.

 

[Científico]

I’ve had many airport experiences (and delays) lately.

This current one at Frankfurt airport is the latest. I see it as an opportunity to perfect the art of approaching at airports.

Girls that are moving blazingly fast through the terminal are generally not the best targets since it requires a direct front stop and stopping a lot of momentum. Generally the best targets are the ones moving slowly or stationary somewhere (waiting for a flight to board for example). I still struggle with AA when there are a lot of people around.

Cold approach I have recognized is a low ROI strategy by itself but still worth doing just to stay social and avoid stagnation and frankly boredom during these long airport delays I have been experiencing lately in my traveling lifestyle.

 

[Científico]

2025 has been an awful, awful year when it comes to pick up.

Not only is my close rate down, but the total number of dates has also decreased drastically. I blame a variety of factors, including my busier work and travel schedule (especially since my move) making it more difficult to actually schedule dates, higher and pickier standards (sick of masculine American girls and mainly prefer feminine latinas), and general burnout.

I've even had a few experiences this year in which I've found girls online but when I go on the date, it's obvious to me that I'm not that excited about the girl.

Paradoxically was having a lot more success last year in my old neighborhood and while still dealing with the fallout from the breakup with my ex, which is now distant in the rearview mirror. I don't really get it to be honest.

The only silver lining from the last few months were my two instant-dates from cold approach here locally, one of which ended in a pull back to my place same day.

I am fine with being pickier since I would rather spend my time and money on girls I am truly excited about, but clearly I need to refine my process and to find my mojo again. Something to ponder. I am even considering becoming more of a weekend warrior and going down to Colombia or other places in LatAm at least once a month for dating (in 2026 more so than this year), since now I am closer and flight is short.

At least I am making better money now after my move, as expected, which should open more opportunities to date in more favorable markets in the medium to long-term future.

 

[Científico]

In recent years, I have come to one inescapable conclusion. I think I have said this before in my journal, but I will say it again.

There is one factor that matters most in determining your success with attractive women.

It isn’t looks, money, status, or game. It is the location. Location, location, location, location.

No matter how good the other factors are, due to market conditions, a man’s results in the United States, Canada, or Western Europe can never be as good as they will be in places like Thailand, the Philippines, or Colombia.

Western women know this, that’s why our society that prioritizes the feminine demonizes the so-called ‘Passport Bros’, men who have realized this fact and who have simply changed their dating location to get a much better return on investment when dating.

There are even dudes in pickup that disparage these guys, saying that those that go overseas for women do so because they ‘can’t get results’ in their home western countries.

This criticism is misguided. Why wouldn’t a man want to move himself to where market conditions are more favorable and the women are more desirable? To me, it’s a no brainer.

In my case, it wouldn’t be true to say I cannot get results in the USA. I can, and I have - anyone who wants to can look back in my journals on this forum can see stories such as me getting laid from cold approach in Virginia a few years ago, or having a threesome last year with a horny Mongolian and a kinky black girl. I’m 38 and have a lifetime lay count of problably over 200, mostly in the US, but I have lost count. I remember losing track around 30 in my early 20s.

Dating in the West has significant issues. Unfortunately, in the United States, there is a far greater proportion of undesirable women and increased cultural obstacles to fast sex. Age gap relationships are more frowned upon in the cultural zeitgeist (which like I said, prioritizes the feminine), so early 20s women are more reluctant to date older men. Dating apps are flooded with women of a typical archetype: >35+ with two kids in tow, and explicitly looking for providers. There are always exceptions to the rule - in later 2023 I banged a smoking hot (9.5/10) college student from a famous university in the DC area on a second straight-to-the-apartment date. We smoked weed and fucked for hours (then of course, she ghosted ).

Of course I have banged many of the >35 single moms in the past, problably more in my 20s. I remember enjoying Baltimore as grad student in particular back around 2009-2011 and remember that peak where I had a good hot streak with girls and women of many stripes. Funny since I wasn’t quite as fit back then.

Without question, I’ve had great experiences with gringas and in the US market. But, it does not compare to the sexual market conditions in Colombia. The women are far more sensual (and sexual). They are generally more attractive. They are far more feminine and more likely to have genuine burning desire for a man. There is no problem with age gap relationships and hot young girls in their 20’s will actively want to date me. I can bang a beautiful girl in Colombia (or in other Latin American countries, like Mexico) and retain them in ways that are impossible in the United States - meaning I can disappear for months or even years and they will still desire me when I come back. They truly love men in a way that feminism and western culture has prohibited in the west. Women from other cultures pale in comparison to their passion. I will go to my grave believing this.

Perhaps other men have different experiences. You could prefer Slavic women for example, Russians, Ukrainians, Polish, Moldovan, or Baltic. Tom Torero was like that, and wrote a whole book about dating in the former Soviet Union called “Cold Calling”. Or perhaps you are happiest in Southeast Asia, the Philippines, Thailand, or Vietnam ( a region I still have never set foot in). But for me, at the moment, it is the latinas without a doubt. I am also latino thus maybe it’s a like-attracts-like thing - they love me and I love them. Better to go to the source of where they are ASAP.

I need to figure out some details about making it happen and long term timelines. At the moment I am making good money at my corporate job, but it’s one I intend to quit at some point once I have a viable strategy. Essentially to live off investments and maybe have a smaller side hustle. I have some ideas currently marinating about this that I intend to investigate further.

I also have to figure out the city, which will necessitate some recon in the next few years and serious consideration about where exactly I would like to go.

This is where my mind is currently at. I am sick of living and dating in the United States in this broken dating market - literally the only thing keeping me here for the time being is the nice income source from the corporate job. I have a lot of disposable income I am currently saving and investing. The time will come within the next 5-10 years to cut that cord and go live the way I really want to live - dating and loving beautiful women where they are in abundance and haven’t been spoiled.

 

[Skills]

In recent years, I have come to one inescapable conclusion. I think I have said this before in my journal, but I will say it again.

There is one factor that matters most in determining your success with attractive women.

It isn’t looks, money, status, or game. It is the location. Location, location, location, location.

No matter how good the other factors are, due to market conditions, a man’s results in the United States, Canada, or Western Europe can never be as good as they will be in places like Thailand, the Philippines, or Colombia.

Western women know this, that’s why our society that prioritizes the feminine demonizes the so-called ‘Passport Bros’, men who have realized this fact and who have simply changed their dating location to get a much better return on investment when dating.

There are even dudes in pickup that disparage these guys, saying that those that go overseas for women do so because they ‘can’t get results’ in their home western countries.

This criticism is misguided. Why wouldn’t a man want to move himself to where market conditions are more favorable and the women are more desirable? To me, it’s a no brainer.

In my case, it wouldn’t be true to say I cannot get results in the USA. I can, and I have - anyone who wants to can look back in my journals on this forum can see stories such as me getting laid from cold approach in Virginia a few years ago, or having a threesome last year with a horny Mongolian and a kinky black girl. I’m 38 and have a lifetime lay count of problably over 200, mostly in the US, but I have lost count. I remember losing track around 30 in my early 20s.

Dating in the West has significant issues. Unfortunately, in the United States, there is a far greater proportion of undesirable women and increased cultural obstacles to fast sex. Age gap relationships are more frowned upon in the cultural zeitgeist (which like I said, prioritizes the feminine), so early 20s women are more reluctant to date older men. Dating apps are flooded with women of a typical archetype: >35+ with two kids in tow, and explicitly looking for providers. There are always exceptions to the rule - in later 2023 I banged a smoking hot (9.5/10) college student from a famous university in the DC area on a second straight-to-the-apartment date. We smoked weed and fucked for hours (then of course, she ghosted ).

Of course I have banged many of the >35 single moms in the past, problably more in my 20s. I remember enjoying Baltimore as grad student in particular back around 2009-2011 and remember that peak where I had a good hot streak with girls and women of many stripes. Funny since I wasn’t quite as fit back then.

Without question, I’ve had great experiences with gringas and in the US market. But, it does not compare to the sexual market conditions in Colombia. The women are far more sensual (and sexual). They are generally more attractive. They are far more feminine and more likely to have genuine burning desire for a man. There is no problem with age gap relationships and hot young girls in their 20’s will actively want to date me. I can bang a beautiful girl in Colombia (or in other Latin American countries, like Mexico) and retain them in ways that are impossible in the United States - meaning I can disappear for months or even years and they will still desire me when I come back. They truly love men in a way that feminism and western culture has prohibited in the west. Women from other cultures pale in comparison to their passion. I will go to my grave believing this.

Perhaps other men have different experiences. You could prefer Slavic women for example, Russians, Ukrainians, Polish, Moldovan, or Baltic. Tom Torero was like that, and wrote a whole book about dating in the former Soviet Union called “Cold Calling”. Or perhaps you are happiest in Southeast Asia, the Philippines, Thailand, or Vietnam ( a region I still have never set foot in). But for me, at the moment, it is the latinas without a doubt. I am also latino thus maybe it’s a like-attracts-like thing - they love me and I love them. Better to go to the source of where they are ASAP.

I need to figure out some details about making it happen and long term timelines. At the moment I am making good money at my corporate job, but it’s one I intend to quit at some point once I have a viable strategy. Essentially to live off investments and maybe have a smaller side hustle. I have some ideas currently marinating about this that I intend to investigate further.

I also have to figure out the city, which will necessitate some recon in the next few years and serious consideration about where exactly I would like to go.

This is where my mind is currently at. I am sick of living and dating in the United States in this broken dating market - literally the only thing keeping me here for the time being is the nice income source from the corporate job. I have a lot of disposable income I am currently saving and investing. The time will come within the next 5-10 years to cut that cord and go live the way I really want to live - dating and loving beautiful women where they are in abundance and haven’t been spoiled.

I have advocated traveling arbitrage in my solution for the horrendous declining market on the west... But the issue is guys taking advantage of arbitrage that doesn't necessarily apply for guys learning and gaming in the west or not giving practical advice that applies to locals.... For example location location location has always mattered but your context is traveling to those specific places which I agree... But not every one can or want to do that... So if they are in the west things other than traveling matters a lot...so for example in a lot on my post i said i am not talking about traveling or online which i advocate for sake of clarity of concept in cold approach in the west... As you can tell different realities...

 

[Científico]

I have advocated traveling arbitrage in my solution for the horrendous declining market on the west... But the issue is guys taking advantage of arbitrage that doesn't necessarily apply for guys learning and gaming in the west or not giving practical advice that applies to locals.... For example location location location has always mattered but your context is traveling to those specific places which I agree... But not every one can or want to do that... So if they are in the west things other than traveling matters a lot...so for example in a lot on my post i said i am not talking about traveling or online which i advocate for sake of clarity of concept in cold approach in the west... As you can tell different realities...

I understand that for many men going abroad for women may not be possible or practical.

Indeed I myself still fall into this category (for now - although I’ve taken recent steps to allow for more frequent and easier travel).

I never said it was easy. But when it comes dating beautiful females, the rewards are so worth it.

 

[Científico]

I just completed another romp in Colombia. Medellin.

It many ways, the place is totally cooked. It´s essentially become a giant brothel, and not a very safe one at that. Particularly if you are a gringo and you don't know what you're doing. I have learned a lot from the experience where I let my guard down in Bogotá, where the risk isn´t even as high as in Medellín. I have been able to filter out many blatant red flags from hustlers engaging in sex work or even worse, those women that intend to drug and rob you.

That being said, I disagree with some guys in the pick up world that Medellín isn´t worth going to because its overrun with hustlers and weird gringos. You just have to know what you're doing. And speak the language. The average girl is incredibly attractive and just my type. There is just something in the genes down there that make the women incredibly sexy on average. They are far more feminine than the gringas in the west. Being back in the United States as I write this feels like a fucking desert compared to down there. And in Medellín, there are still find legit Paisa girls that are super cute and looking for relationships. There are still a lot of great people down there.

I discovered the dance scene and it is absolute fire. It is taking off fast. I wish I had had more time to farm that scene and see what kind of hot dancers I would have met had I not spent my Saturday taking care of another girl. I might just fly down again for it. There are just beautiful colombianas (and some interesting foreigners) in that scene, and I would have loved to explore it more had I not run into the real reason why I was down there.

My intention going down there was to spend more time with Girl B (I didn´t even tell Girl A I was down there, that is a story for a different post). This is a woman in Medellín who I have seen a few times there where the sex has been amazing. Well, this time, she was in female hustle-mode. Not the Medellín kind of hustle, but the kind where the woman is trying to step up the relationship from pure sex to something more. She is attempting to secure some kind of relationship from me. We didn´t fuck this time, because it was her way of telling me she is really concerned about where the relationship is going.

I dont mind flying girls out to a cool destination, which is what I am considering doing to continue the relationship with this beautiful female. But I am also having second thoughts about it because...while she is beautiful, sexy, and the sex is incredible - that is pretty much the extent of our connection. She really enjoys my attention, and she seems to have genuine burning desire for me. But I am not so much into her basic personality to tell you the truth. It´s sad, but I am starting to feel it. I question how compatible we are long term. But she has never once asked me for money or engaged in the standard Medellín hustling culture. So...for now, maybe she will get a fun trip out of me. I just hope I don't regret it (if I do it). I must make a decision soon.

 

[Científico]

Date with cute cuban flight attendant

Last night in my local neighborhood I went out with this cute, albeit older (my age ish), flight attendant. Despite her age, not a terrible find considering the local market. Her face was cute and kissable, short, and she had the latina fire.

Sometimes, I still fall into the under-escalation trap, where I lose the female because I didn't hit the gas pedal hard enough. I think this will be another one of those cases. I think there is a good chance now at some point in the near future I will get the "didn't feel a spark" text.

After a good time in the first venue with us playing darts, and dancing to music played on my phone, and a little bit of kissing, instead of taking her back to my place I walk her to nearby lake and we dance to some more music and make out more before she goes home.

I am thinking now I could have pulled. And maybe the reason why I didn't was because in my mind she fit into the more "cute, not hot" LTR archetype where it wouldn't be 'proper' to escalate too fast. Hopefully this makes sense in a strange sort of way. At least this is why looking back I wasn't so eager to bring her back for a fast bang, but I did enjoy kissing her face and acting romantic. Certainly though I would have enjoyed banging her.

It's silly because I wouldn't actually be in an LTR with this woman, I know that.

I am in the habit now of planning my dates down to the fine details, including venues and what routines I will run. And also collecting post-mortems on what I could done better. I'm gonna write another note for myself to stay focused on the objective in the future, because it's not the first time I do this.

If I'm going to lose girls, it better be due to OVER-escalation and NOT under-escalation.

 

[Científico]

Bumble Experiment - Exploring Different Markets.

To gather data, and illustrate just how important LOCATION is to dating results, I have begun an experiment with Bumble Premium changing my location to different cities in Latin America, Europe, and Asia. I picked Bumble because it is one of the major dating apps, it has good international reach, and it's well designed (not glitchy). However like with any dating app there are problably caveats - I know that the company behind Bumble itself has been struggling financially for example, potentially because less people are now using the app. There may also be geography-dependent differences with Bumble itself (maybe people in some countries use it more or less compared to other countries). Nonetheless, I think the results are valuable.

In each city, I am running my profile for about 48 hours and seeing what I get. It has been very interesting so far.

Asia
Hong Kong - many matches (20-30 in the 48 hour time period), average to slightly above average quality.
Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam-30+ matches, above average quality (better than HK). The results here have made Vietnam a serious contender for me to visit next year, some of the women I matched with were stunning. These are good looking asians!
Singapore - 30+, above average quality (similar to Vietnam)

Unsurprisingly, the Asian market is one of the best.

Europe
Prague, Czech Republic - zero matches!
Vilnius, Lithuania - zero matches!
Sofia, Bulgaria - 1-2 matches

Opposite of Asia, the European market is dismal and seemingly even worse than the United States (at least with Bumble). This kinda matches previous experience, although I didn't expect it to be this bad. I will problably try some other cities, and maybe experiment with other apps other than Bumble, but this solidifies that I should problably avoid Europe for dating purposes. It has the same western female mind viruses as the US, and perhaps even worse so.

LatAm
Santo Domingo, DR- 35-40+ - below average quality. Not surprising that I had so many right swipes here, and since it's short flight away I am actually chatting with one gem I found down there with the intention of seeing where it might go.
Buenos Aires - As I write this I am almost at 48 hours, but still only have one subpar match. So nothing like Colombia or Mexico so far.

All of this is meant to inform where I may travel next year for solo dating. I will keep jumping around the planet to gain more info. I am most surprised right now at the Buenos Aires result. My plan was to hit Santiago de Chile next year for dating, but if the results are similar to Buenos Aires I may in fact reconsider.

Clearly, for long term dating success I need to move to one of the better markets eventually.

Instagram for Dating

Right now there are a ton of coaches selling their services regarding IG optimization for dating, claiming that it's far superior to dating apps. I have now gotten the photography done to explore this angle and my IG is far better than it was even a few months ago, although far from elite level.

My conclusion is that unless you ARE elite level (and I'm talking public figure/content creator level with at least 10's of thousands of followers) AND you automate the outreach, IG is going to be quite low return. Even if you have great photos and show off a good lifestyle. One should be careful with some of these coaches selling their services.

Still, I think there is potential here in the future for me. For now, it's really about having it just so I can use it as a reengagement tool, and potentially in the future use it more as a lead generation source once I optimize it further. I have ideas for how to do this, unfortunately my current busy job prevents me from implementing some of these ideas.

Again, for long term dating success I need to quit my job and move - the question is when to pull the trigger.

Cold Approach frequency

While I still believe cold approach is worth doing, at this point I am firmly on Team Online Dating. Cold approach is spraying and praying with a huge rejection rate and high effort for the sporadic occasional win, while online is low effort (once you have your photography sorted) and you are dealing with pre-qualified leads rather than randoms that may be (and often are) unavailable due to circumstances outside of your control.

That being said, I don't feel like I am living my full potential if I don't approach. That's why I still do it. Essentially, it's a cheap thrill that makes my life more interesting.

My approach tally for November is currently sitting at 11, which is less than 1 per day, but better than previous months. I am trying to get to the point where I am doing at least one per day in my day to day activities, and still struggling to be consistent. I am not social by default, it takes effort, but I have to be 'on' to fully take advantage of the sporadic opportunities that appear on an infrequent basis. Out and about, only occasionally do I see a woman I am truly interested in talking to, and I need to reframe this to really just be social with everyone so I'm never 'off' and CAN take advantage of these sporadic opportunities.

I still particularly struggle with group/mixed sets and two sets, as well as sets with too many people around (spotlight effect).

Adapting to my new reality

In some ways I have now recognized that moving south to central Florida has been a double-edged sword.

On one hand, there are many benefits with regards to better weather, financial, and proximity to latin america. All things I knew coming in and what justified the move. The fact that I am keeping significantly more of my money and not losing it to rent and taxes is a very good thing.

However, it's now become clear that my dating life has in fact suffered because of it. This is due to two main reasons.

First, it has increased my work travel, and since I am constantly on the move it is now more difficult to coordinate schedules and form stable relationships.

Second, the market simply isn't as good in this area. There are simply less people in nearby compared to my former city, and many dating prospects are spread out geographically compounding the difficulties with regards to dating logistics. This aspect I didn't realize would affect me as much as it has.

I have a date tracker from the last few years and it's very clear - my dating VOLUME overall has simply decreased since I moved.

Overall, I still think the move was worth it due to the aforementioned benefits, however I must be prepared to accept the consequences, and create new systems to acquire and manage leads in this area.

 

[Científico]

LR - Horny Boricua Single Mom

This was a nice lay of the type I haven’t had in a while.

Puerto Rican single mom. Not the most amazingly good looking woman I’ve ever banged by any stretch of the imagination (a bit overweight), but she was cute and more importantly she was super horny and ready to be seduced.

Standard two venue strategy close to my apartment, we drank some THC seltzers at the second venue before the bounce-back (yes, this is a thing where I now live).

The THC made her super horny. She was ready for me to pounce. Sex was great and she enjoyed it, but then the speed at which it happened coupled with the THC made ASD rear its ugly head post bang. I comforted her as best I could, and sent plenty of follow up texts afterwards.

She then goes “thanks for last night, I needed that!”. So did I

I am hoping not to lose her but we will see if this ends up as a one night thing.

FR++ Blue Eyed Gringa

The next day, I go on another date with a blonde American chick my age. Again, quality wasn’t top tier here either, but she was highly interested in her texting and came out in a cute blue dress that matched her eyes.

She didn’t drink alcohol so I essentially skipped the first venue this time and went right to the place with the THC seltzers.

Successful bounce back running mostly standard routines (working on changing up my material from various sources, but keeping the essence intact and true to my personality).

Once back at my place, a lot of kissing and making out but she wouldn’t bang despite multiple attempts. I might try again, but not high priority.

Both of these interactions were good in the sense that I was finally able to get some dates in and a lay, but the quality needs to be higher. Easiest way to do that quickly is changing my location as previously discussed. Things are in the works.

Spain experience

As I write this now I am in a second tier Spanish city that I won’t name but that you can easily find on most maps.

Family thing. Normally, I wouldn’t be caught dead wasting my time here. Spain is firmly within the western and american sphere of influence, and largely suffers from the same issues that the United States does. The women are more masculine (even in the way they talk!!), there are fewer attractive women overall, and the male competition is a lot higher. Market conditions are generally poor.

However, while game isn’t the primary purpose of the trip I have done a few approaches while here (out on the street, train stations, etc) and met some interesting females out in the dance scene with IG closes - so not a total waste. As expected, more blowouts than normal, but that’s fine as long as I put in the reps.

Quick IG experiment and travel update

As expected the best markers are LatAm and Southeast Asia, but it does seem to vary within LatAm depending on city, at least on Bumble.

Planning some more travel to greener pastures soon and I will update as it happens.

 

[Científico]

I go back and forth on how much I want to invest in this woman in Medellin and how far I want to take it.

One one hand, she is incredibly sexy and beautiful. The sex is incredible. I desire her and I want to keep fucking her.

But in the other hand, there simply isn’t much more to her other than her beauty. She comes packaged with drama and baggage, and I must remain non reactive in response to her tests. Sometimes I get tired of it.

I question if it’s worth it. My current dilemma.

 

[Científico]

Relationship Frame Control.

Women are somewhat predictable creatures once you understand the patterns. But they can still very easily throw you off.

This woman in Medellín has been occupying my thoughts a lot lately. Problably because of the mixed emotions I feel from her. On one hand, she can be extraordinarily loving, and she is incredibly beautiful. Delicate and feminine. On the other hand, her shit tests are relentless, frequent, and overbearing. She is constantly testing me and my frame. To the point where I was, and still am, constantly questioning if this entire thing with her should continue. Especially considering that she is down in Colombia and logistically a real relationship with a girl that doesn't also travel doesn't really make sense at this time.

And like I say in the other post above, I am fairly certain there is no long term future with her. But man, she sure does get me going emotionally, and sexually. I still constantly think about how much she turns me on when I am fucking her.

I had planned to take her on a trip for a few days to an undisclosed location (before proceeding to another larger city in South America on my own to meet up with a few other guys around Christmas till the New Year). It was going to be luxurious, and romantic. But then she threw another temper tamprum over nothing and wasn't responding to my messages for a day or two. I was left with no choice but to cancel the trip, as I wasn't confident anymore that we were going to have a good time together.

However, she then followed a predictable pattern. She took responsibility, she was an idiot said and that she is sorry. I do believe she is very sad she won't see me now and didn't mean for it to come to this. Thus, I feel a lot of remorse now, as I perhaps could have gotten her in line 'upstream' of this moment with the right words, and action. Potentially even months ago when I saw her in person on our last date. For some reason, it has been very difficult to manage her.

We are talking about rescheduling another meet to Jan or Feb, and now I have a few extra days to relax in my home location before my trip, but unfortunately the market largely sucks around here - I haven't successfully secured a good date with anyone yet. Dealing with local western women and their delusions is tiring, and I have to work on the social circle thing. Thus I'm working to just get through this moment without losing frame and talking to her too much.

The real question is why I care this much and bothered to write an entire post about it, I must actually like her a bit. Thus I fear I am also falling into a mini-oneitis, and that isn't good.

 

[Científico]

Medellín Amor

Im in a much better place writing this today compared to a few days ago when I wrote the last entry. The path forward is now much clearer.

As I wrote earlier, there won't be any meeting with her in 2025 due to her bad behavior. Currently, there is a bit of a vacuum in communication. That's fine. Looking at this logically, spending too much time fretting about her doesn't even make too much sense, since again, I'm uncertain I really see much of a future with her.

One of the most important things on the road to self mastery is managing emotions around the women that one forms relationships with. Especially when they get in deep. Staying grounded, being the unshakable rock that doesn't move in response to the tides. And maintaining perspective through it all.

Boricua Single Mom

Banged this girl again last night. This time a proper fucking session of 1-2 hours. She orgasmed several times.

Not a stunner by any means, but it's always super nice and validating to have a cute female that desires me so much and enjoys my dick inside her.

Hopefully I can have her back for repeat sessions once in a while

Dating Momemtum Increasing

Suddenly I have some more options for dates on the last days of me being in my (new) home turf before my next trip down to South America. Just took a few days to get the momemtum going and build the pipeline.

Tonight, I will try a new venue with a cutie I found on Hinge, and field test some new (old) routines I am finding from Tom Toreros old 'DayGame' book (I still have a paperback copy). It is honestly a treasure trove of stories, routines, and inspiration. Even in death, Tom continues to inspire my game journey. RIP.

 

[Científico]

Date with redhead gringa

I had a truly incredible time with the girl I found on Hinge that I mentioned in my last post.

What was unique about her was her feminine energy. It’s so rare and frankly refreshing to find an American girl who leans into her feminine rather than being masculine, combative and constantly shit testing. Early in the date we discussed men vs. women, and it was the perfect Segway into sex talk and the “8 different orgasms” routine from this website.

I also used some old PUA routines from Tom’s book (but that you can also google), such as ‘Strawberry fields’ to great effect.

We took a nice walk after the first venue - I held my arm out for her and she held my hand with one hand and grabbed my arm with her other hand, holding me close. We walked by a nearby lake and I kissed her in a natural moment, looking deep into her eyes.

In short, the connection here was spectacular, and it was all very romantic. I decided not to do a fast pull this time, which in this case I believe was the right call. Afterward she sent me the following text:

I passed this (note- she is referring to an elaborate Christmas decoration)on my way home - it was beautiful and I thought of kissing you there.

This evening was really lovely, thank you.

I appreciated your kindness and care.

I’d really love to see you again.

I won’t be able to see her again until after my trip. Today she texted me again in response to a photo ping saying she thought of me today, I asked why and she responded:

Just in a quiet moment, you crossed my mind. I thought of the way you looked at me... It made me soften deeper into that moment and smile.

She is highly interested to the point of it being suspicious? Reminds me a lot of my ex who upon meeting me also was very romantic and interested immediately.

Of course my concern here is about falling into too much of a nice guy/provider frame, so I am trying to give her some space and not contact her TOO much while I am away. Ideal second date is cooking at my place.

 

[Científico]

Date with blonde gringa dancer

Cancelling the trip to Medellín honestly had it’s benefits. Not only did I meet redhead gringa, I also got to go on this date with blonde gringa dancer. Another straight up american girl, but with some subtle asian ethnic background as well.

Her case is interesting because I met her dancing in the field almost a year ago, the vibe was pretty on then and I got her contact. However, I didn’t pursue because I found out later via her social media that it was clear she was in a relationship.

Now, a few weeks ago, we match on a dating app. No more relationship, single for the last four months. The talking over the app was sporadic, but she appeared highly interested from the start. I match her texting frequency, and when she misses replying on the app for a few days (and then messages apologising saying she never checks the app), I simply use the whatsapp contact I already obtained and message her there. We then schedule the date over whatsapp.

Originally this date was going to be Sunday. The complication in this seduction is the fact that she is also in the social dance scene, and suggested even Sunday on going to a social as part of the date. I intentionally left that door half open but had no intention at all of actually going to a social with her (TERRIBLE for seduction, contact breaks, other guys come in, etc - women are so silly in their games).

Then she ended up moving the date due to her work schedule changing and she had to work later (but still suggested meeting at the social), which was fine because I used that night to go out with redhead gringa. Of course I did not see her that night.

So tonight I go out with blonde gringa dancer, the subject of this post. Again, this is another one where the vibe was on from the very start. She is honestly quite sexy, and also feminine but in a different way than redhead gringa. Her conversational skills weren't as sharp, so I had to fill in more gaps in the exchange and lead her a lot more to different topics. ‘Strawberry fields’ landed but perhaps not as effectively as it did with redhead gringa. She was very much into the sex talk however, and it became a recurring theme in the conversation. .

I even used a fun routine I lifted directly from Tom’s book recently (that he allegedly got from another famous PUA), that I think really shows intent in a clever way. When the girl asks what you’re looking for in a woman, I replied with the following

“Well, I have three things I evaluate before I get to know a woman deep inside "
“First, she can’t wear too much make up. We can test this”
Have her kiss your hand to see if the lipstick stays on the skin
“Second, her hair has to smell nice”
Lean in and smell her hair
“Third, she has to have good taste in shoes, because good taste in shoes usually means good taste in underwear”

She had a GOOD laugh at the punchline there, and then said “I love how direct that was, that’s what I am here for”. It was a good reference back to earlier in the conversation when I contrasted latino men from american men, and she remarked that latino men are more direct in going for what they want (I am latino/puerto rican).

Honestly, she was very direct in telling me she liked me. She complimented me constantly, telling me I am fit and intelligent. Her confidence in directly telling me her interest even through me off for a bit. I found it very direct and sexy, especially coming from a cutie like her. The truth is, I was always attracted to this woman, even when I first met her almost a year ago. You can tell there is some asian in her but it’s very subtle since the gringa genetics are dominant. It does change her facial structure in a subtle way though, which I find really sexy for some reason. She’s got endless photos on her social media of her looking cute. I find her really attractive for some reason.

I did the standard two-venue strategy I like to do now on my home turf, first a bar with alcohol and following that at my favorite special place with alternative drinks as the second venue. At the second place things escalated, we moved to the couches and kissed and touched each other a lot. A lot of talk about love languages at one point, and how physical touch is very important to her, which led to more touching, kissing, and caressing.

However, again this social dancer obstacle reared it’s ugly head - turns out there is a venue on Tuesday nights close by and she suggested going there. Ugh.

I try to steer the ship in the right direction and failed. The exchange went something like this

Me - “Let's go to my romantic balcony, it’s got open night air and a world class DJ (me)”
Her - “I don’t go back to the guys places on the first date”
Me - “What do you think is going to happen?”
Her - “You know that, I don’t have to tell you”
Me - “What exactly are you talking about? What do you think is going to happen?”
Her - “Problably great things to be honest, that’s why we can’t. Let’s go to XYZ place here where there is dancing”.

These aren’t the exact words but it captures the essence of it. She had already made it clear she was attracted, we had already spent a lot of time touching, caressing, and kissing each other.

So what was I to do? I relented and we walked together to the venue.

Upon arriving, I immediately hated it. The place was loud, the crowd was huge and sweaty, and there was a horde of male dancers ready to pounce. Blonde gringa was already recognizing and greeting some people in the scene (as were some people recognizing me), so I knew I had to act quickly to somewhat take control of the situation as best I could.

I grab blonde gringa and take her out to the dance floor. After two songs, I tell her that I am not wearing the right shoes, or the right shirt (a black long sleeved henley that I was wearing for the cool December air), so I tell her I’m quickly going home to change and that I will be right back. My reasoning was, better to let her miss me rather than hanging out at that venue where my vibe was going to quickly crash. And honestly, they were very legitimate reasons.

My place is only about a 10-15 minute walk from the venue, so I just go back home and take my time going back. I decide to send her a cheeky photo from my balcony highlighting how the night air is perfect and there are no large crowds, and then throw in a takeaway saying “balcony bachata isn’t for everyone”. She replies again laughing and again saying no - then after about 20 minutes asks “how far are you?”. This was my cue to start heading back.

When I arrive back at the venue, the bouncer tells me he can’t let me in because it’s completely at capacity. I call her up and explain the situation, she then says she is ready to go anyway. I begin to walk her to her car, and at that point I had decided I wasn’t going to try to pull since there was so much negative compliance. But then it’s almost like she is throwing me a bone, encouraging me to try again.

“My flight leaves so early tomorrow, I doubt I’m going to sleep tonight”

I immediately reply

Me - “Well then you should come up to my balcony and listen to music if you’re not going to sleep”
Her - “Haha you are so bad, but in a good way. Maybe”.

Green light? She drops me off at my place in her car, and I tell her she should come in. Maybe the logical brain took over or she had too much negative compliance, because she again repeated the no.

I told her

Me - “we aren’t going to do anything you do not want to do”
Her - “I know that, but still. I have my reasons”

Okay. I tell her to drive safe, text me when you get back, and some fluff about future travel plans and when we will coincide for the next date. As promised, she texted me as soon as she arrived back at her home.

Analysis

What I find frustrating here is that I would love to reduce the incidence of this happening. I do get placed in the “boyfriend” box way too often for my liking due to many things about my overall character and vibe not fitting into an overall ‘badboy’ persona. But this was a good instance of me at least pushing the limits rather than holding back, which I think should be my default. It’s still hard for me to do this 100% consistently, even after it knowing it for years.

I think the women respect it more anyway, as I have come to believe over the years. They like to feel wanted and prefer when a man they are attracted to does not hide his dick, even when they want to play provider frame games.

Even in Toms book, most of his lays he describes are not first date lays, rather second or even third (or sometimes even more). Then again, there are guys that claim a 90% close rate on the first date. I suspect most of these guys are exaggerating or BSing, and since seduction is a private affair there really is no way to verify these claims.

Certainly with the right screening methodology to filter out non-DTF girls AND the right tactics on a date I am sure I can substantially reduce this, but then I might miss a lot of great experiences with other girls like this one. In the end, I think there are strategies to more clearly show intent that might filter out the time wasters better. And despite the refusal this first time, I do not believe this woman is a time waster. I will continue to experiment - that new routine is gold.