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Tribal Elder
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--- I think Tom Torero was right when he called partner-dancing 'snake seduction'. Even though it facilitates a lot of interactions with women, the conundrum is that it is anti-fast seduction because you have to invest a lot of time dancing with a girl before you can start making motions, at that point there is a lot of courtship element and she may make you wait. I know this but I still choose to spend a lot of time in the dance community anyway.
that was not Tom Torero that was me

 

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Cro-Magnon Man
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that was not Tom Torero that was me


Good post man and on the money for the most part.

The fact that you said it in 2016 might mean you said it before I heard it from TT :ROFLMAO:

There are exceptions to every rule, I had women in Mexico pick me up and fuck me from these dance venues, since I am a great dancer they didn't care that their friends saw them leave with me and in one occasion after we fucked we went right back to the party. One time in Florida I fucked a horny girl right after one of the parties at an event, and I've number closed and gotten lucky on 1st, 2nd or 3rd dates sometimes throughout my long dance career.

However, for the most part I agree that is mostly SLOW and INEFFICIENT seduction, outside of a few select cases in my experience. I've even commented on this before and struggled with it in previous iterations of my journal. Despite how fun it is, It will have less emphasis on my future trips. I will just be buying party passes (as an option to have in the evenings) probably and skipping all workshops in favor of cold approaching in a new city.
 

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Tribal Elder
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Good post man and on the money for the most part.

The fact that you said it in 2016 might mean you said it before I heard it from TT :ROFLMAO:

There are exceptions to every rule, I had women in Mexico pick me up and fuck me from these dance venues, since I am a great dancer they didn't care that their friends saw them leave with me and in one occasion after we fucked we went right back to the party. One time in Florida I fucked a horny girl right after one of the parties at an event, and I've number closed and gotten lucky on 1st, 2nd or 3rd dates sometimes throughout my long dance career.

However, for the most part I agree that is mostly SLOW and INEFFICIENT seduction, outside of a few select cases in my experience. I've even commented on this before and struggled with it in previous iterations of my journal. Despite how fun it is, It will have less emphasis on my future trips. I will just be buying party passes (as an option to have in the evenings) probably and skipping all workshops in favor of cold approaching in a new city.
Of course, there will always be exceptions and now a days has somewhat changed with regetton, i discussed this with you years back in one of your frs or journal entries....
 

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Cro-Magnon Man
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Of course, there will always be exceptions and now a days has somewhat changed with regetton, i discussed this with you years back in one of your frs or journal entries....

Yep, years ago around the time I met my ex.

In many ways I am picking things up and rediscovering myself again from the time that I met her.
 

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Cro-Magnon Man
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Munich is massive. Volume is intense, especially the area around Marienplatz.

Unfortunately, I did almost 20 approaches but don't have much to show for it. Had some blowouts where the girl just kept walking (gone is the small town vibe). Several genuinely positive interactions where the girls hooked but then hit me with boyfriend or husband objections.

Then rain and bad weather put an end to my activities. Dating apps are pretty dry here as well!

I don't even feel too bad about it, DG can be brutal, and nothern Europe is one of the toughest markets for a shorter latino dude like me.

However, the original plan of going to Finland is looking better now if today is predictive of my success here.
 

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Cro-Magnon Man
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Needless to say from the above, my short three-four day stint in Munich did not yield any results in terms of cold approach. I believe this was due to a combination of factors, namely the tough market, my own mental state re: my ex, and the short time frame.

After the 20 approach blowout the first day, my motivation to approach the subsequent days decreased (still did a few, but nowhere near 20) - I ended up going to some language meetups and dance events and meeting people that way, in which I connected with several fun local people. Typically, the meetup was 70-80% guys, as it tends to be with the market in western countries. Tried to get this dancing Russian cutie out for drinks that I connected with on Instagram, and she was keen, but failed due to the short timeframe that I was there.

I decided to stick to the original plan and go to the festival in Finland, where I met a LOT of hungry bachateras and made some true friendships, but still was met with the usual ASD when I tried to bounce back women late after the parties back to my place.

Now that I am back in DC, my cold approach volume has decreased as I've been dealing with some job transition stuff. Long story short, I am now in the process of switching companies once again (done with stupid shady startups and going back to work at a more stable organization I used to be at before).

This switch might enable me to take some more time off and leave the country soon once again, and I'll problably check out at LEAST Bogota or EVEN go further south to Argentina or Chile. I do very well in LatAm, so I expect this upcoming trip to be very productive.

In the meantime, tomorrow I will go out approaching with my usual reliable wing, and dating apps are providing some good medium-high quality matches (my optimized profile from a few years ago still working well) - have a date with a latina from Hinge in about 20 minutes.
 

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Cro-Magnon Man
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FR - Mexicana Cutie

Date last night with a cute little mexican girl from Hinge. She showed up and I was pleasantly surprised - she was adorable, big eyes, laughed at my jokes, touchy and held my hand early.

Problem was, that cuteness factor for some reason made it difficult for me to implement the sex talk routines I normally employ during dates. Did my usual travel stories, charisma stories (being a dance teacher), and qualification, but the missing piece here was the sex talk and the breaking rapport/teasing was underwhelming I think.

Did a second venue because I correctly sensed she wasn't ready for a pull after the first venue. My delivery of the '8 different organsms' bit was rushed and uncalibrated, and we moved on from the topic quickly. She wasn't keen on a pullback or even a kiss.

My overall feedback for myself is to work on breaking rapport more, being less of a nice guy with girls like this. I know historically I give off too much boyfriend vibes and I believe that was my downfall here.

No matter, it's likely I can get her out on subsequent dates and seal the deal later.
 

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Job Transition Stuff/Drug Test

Top priority at the moment is to finalize my transition between companies. My current organization is an absolute mess with an idiot CEO and an unsustainable business model, hence my decision to leave and go back to a larger company I used to work at before where everyone loves me. The new (old) job will be comfortable and involve a lot of travel throughout the US, which I think will be favorable for seduction/pick up.

A small hiccup is the requirement to take a drug screen which is giving me some minor anxiety since I am a fairly frequent cannabis user, probably 4-6 times a week in the evening with 5-10 mg doses.

As soon as I saw the offer letter mentioned a drug screen I stopped my consumption and bought a ton of at home tests from different brands. Thankfully I am testing negative every time, which was the case even week 1 post last use - the strength of the negative test line varies depending on how dilute the urine is, but it’s there everytime. It’s possible that being low body fat and exercising frequently is helping me. The test is now scheduled for 14 days post - and I will do all the tricks with drinking water, creatine and B-vitamins to lessen the off chance of something happening. I am fairly confident there wont be a problem given my at home test results but will be very happy once that it’s over.

Meanwhile, I am currently planning my solo trip to Colombia after I give notice and leave my current org - mainly plan on sticking with Bogota just to avoid gringos but may stop by Medellin for a few days just to see the place.

Date Tonight


Being Friday night, I double booked myself tonight to ensure I had a date, with black IKEA girl who I cold approached inside the store weeks ago and with a late 30s cute Peruvian from Hinge.

Both of them ended up confirming, so I went ahead and cancelled on the Peruvian and now I am planning to meet the IKEA girl. I could not pass up on that amazing booty that made me approach her!

Will update later on how it goes.
 

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Cro-Magnon Man
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Big booty IKEA girl


Nice date last night with the girl I cold approached inside of an IKEA several weeks ago. This was the second time I tried to get her out after she flaked the first time.

Arrived at the venue (close to my apartment) after her, she had already seated herself and I was forced to take a seat across from her instead of next to her (suboptimal). Got one drink at this first venue where I ran a lot of my usual date material, including travel stories, qualification, seeding the pull, and the '8 different orgasms' sex talk gambit.

Then, to fix the seating situation, after the first round I moved her to another venue where we could sit across from each other at the bar, and there as I wanted there was a lot more touching, holding hands, etc. My only glaring flaw from my perspective is I didn't run more sex talk gambits (other than some lighter discussions about differences between men and women and dating), which I should have done honestly since she responded favorably to the '8 different orgasms' bit. I need to have these better solidified in my mind and know how/when to bring them up in the conversational flow.

Nevertheless, I am not sure they would have made a difference in her case. Perhaps yes if done properly, but perhaps no. I succeeded in getting her back to my place - using my normal excuse about listening to better music, dancing, me being the DJ, etc. One thing I did that shut down her initial resistance to the bounce back is reminding her of something she had stated earlier in response to my qualification - that I like girls who are adventurous and like to leave their comfort zones. That was very effective in shutting down her resistance to coming back to my place.

Once in my building, at first I told her we can go to my rooftop, but I needed to stop by my place to get my speaker for the music. However once in my apartment, I invited her out to my balcony, she liked it and immediately took a seat in the comfortable outdoor two-seater I have out there and thus we settled there for a while.

Once seated in the privacy of my balcony, I tried some escalation - and she wasn't down for even a kiss on the lips (I kissed her cheek and body instead). A lot of touching and hand holding/caressing, but nothing past that. I stood her up and taught her some basic dancing, grabbing her amazing ass a few times which she didn't mind. Then I tried kissing her again, same response. This was the pattern throughout.

She seemed to like me kissing her face though, and turned her head at one point so I could do it again. Instead I turned my head and motioned for her to kiss me on my cheek and she complied.

I would say her response to all the attempts at escalation were favorable, saying that "at least I know you are attracted to me", but she has me in the boyfriend 'box' and thus wants to make me wait. I get put in the boyfriend box too often by women for my liking!

Knowing that sex problably wasn't in the cards this time, later on my rooftop I started to discuss what a next possible date could look like "if we want to see each other again", and proposed going to the grocery store to buy food and cooking it at her place. She agreed.

Overall I had a nice time with this girl. Chances of seeing her again I think are high.
 

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LR - Tinder Disaster

This was a strange one. Girl matched with me today on Tinder with a minimal profile, but clearly stated twice that she was vegan and interested in meeting vegan men. I was down and we set up the date within a very short timespan.

I called an Uber for her and we met a local wine bar.

First thing to notice, of course, was that she had a bit more pounds than her profile let on (typical female lie on these apps). Still a pleasant face and bangable body. But then when she opened her mouth to have a conversation, it was clear she was dumb as a bag of rocks. Into woo woo shit like tarot card reading and other nonsense, but not only that, she could barely put together a thought before being distracted by the next thought. It was like she was high on something.

She also didn't clearly understand what veganism actually is (lol).

I decided this was going to be a hit it and quit it situation. I took the lead and she followed me back to my apartment. Once there, I started escalating and she would reciprocate but then break it off and start opening cabinets and grabbing/commenting on random shit in my apartment.

It was only when I really took charge, started grabbing and slapping her body, physically picked her up and threw her onto the bed did she submit to me. The sex was actually pretty good.

We listened to music for a while on my balcony. She turned me off even more when she commented that once in a while she cheats and eats cheese in France, and spent 20 minutes talking about how I shouldn't take Pepto Bismol 'as a vegan' because it's not 'natural' before I told her to STFU.

She then asked me if I was going to take her out to dinner. I told her maybe after more sex. We banged again, and then I decided I didn't want to take her out anywhere and simply led her outside, called an Uber for her and sent her on her way.

It was really bizzare since a UK accent came out in the way she talked as soon as she got upset at me. She started loading the Tinder app and I noticed how many men she had talking to her, no doubt she could find another date tonight quickly if she wanted to.

As for me, I won't be speaking to her again. Glad I wore a condom.
 

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Cro-Magnon Man
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Missing my ex this morning.

It's been a month since we separated (for the second time).

For the longest time, this woman always found her way back into my life. Despite my issues with monogamy and my need to continue seducing other women, and our troubles with that. For years she was always ready and willing to return. And always willing to love me.

Until perhaps now. Now I think she is finally starting to move on from me. And that is painful for me.

Choosing the sailors life, the seducers life, is what I knew I had to do. In the relationship with her, I was getting too stagnant. Too comfortable. And I simply was not happy.

But I got some big Oxytocin hits from her that I really miss sometimes, especially now. And in these moments where I really miss her, that's when I question my decisions. At least the primitive part of my brain does. I think us as men are more susceptible to this.

Despite her need and love for me, ultimately she is still a woman. She has the capacity to move on, even move on quite quickly. Especially once other men start coming into the picture.

I have made my decisions and I will stand by them. I cannot rewind the clock and make different decisions. And I know that even if I did go back, and she were to come back and see me this weekend for example, I would regret it. I've seen that movie before.

And yet, there are plenty of uncomfortable 'what if's that my mind keeps considering. I will pick up meditation to sort it all out.
 

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Cro-Magnon Man
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Final week before I get my big paycheck, give notice and make plans to GTFO of this company and coordinate my trip to Colombia.

Tomorrow I am also taking this stupid drug test so I can go back to consuming cannabis. I've never pissed positive on any of the home tests (there has always been a negative line of various intensities across all the tests), so very confident I will test negative after two weeks of non-consumption, especially if I stay hydrated. Will be happy once that is done.

Being low body fat helps here, as the retention of THC metabolites seems to be much lower in my body compared to other testimony I read about online. It helps in many aspects of life to not be a fat fuck!!

Botched Approach

I haven't been approaching much because online game has frankly been keeping me busy with a sufficient volume of dates and I honestly do not feel like taking too much time out of my day to go approach out in the field. However, today on my evening walk I approached this very cute blonde girl that was exactly my type as she was walking. I seem to be selective with who I really want to approach, but I knew this girl would get my dick hard quickly.

Unfortunately, got a pretty harsh blowout, which I attribute to the following factors:

1.) I did what Tom Torero once described to me as the 'cheeky 11 o'clock' - if I am going to front stop a girl, I have to come in dominantly from 12 o clock, not slightly from the side as I did. I often forget this, especially if I am not warmed up.

2.) Hesitated too long before I approached her, she saw me several minutes before I approached, and I followed behind on the street for a bit before making my move. If she registered my prescence in those minutes before, it comes across as creepy. I was battling with the spotlight effect and I can't do that - if it's on the street and she is a moving target I have to make my move ASAP upon seeing her, and not worry so much about other people seeing or hearing.

3.) Opened with "sorry I am stopping you randomly" which is a bad opener, apologizing for being a man right out of the gate. No apologies.
 

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Date with Pacific Islander shorty ends in a "I dont see this going anywhere" post date text

I've seen this story play out before, but this is the first time in a while. It was bound to happen as I readjust to dating full time.

I decide to meet this woman from online closer to her turf when I am there for work anyway, since she was resisting coming to where I live to see me for a first date. I broke my rule of never meeting a woman 'halfway', justifying it to myself since I am up there for work anyway.

It was a good date and she was attracted, especially towards the end as I was running my standard date material and the drinks were flowing.

My mistake was meeting her far away from my place and thinking I could run the two-date model. It was all too much in her frame. I gave off too many boyfriend vibes by taking her question about relationship dealbreakers seriously, and failed to escalate further due to me thinking I could just have her in the second date.

I kissed her outside of her car. She was into it. Had we been closer to my place I problably could have pulled. Perhaps I should have tried anyway. Instead I decided to try for the next date.

Then when I try to set that up, she drops the "I think you're great but I've thought about this and I don't see this going any further" text.

Bubble burst, attraction killed. She was ready to bang that night, but not now.
 

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Approaches in my neighborhood

Lately my approach volume has been down but I am aim to change that shortly, especially since everything appears to be going to plan with my job transition and I will have some additional time soon. There is no reason for me to continue working at all until I start my new gig. I essentially have the month of August off. Part/most of that will be spent in Colombia. I am simply waiting for my big commission and bonus check before I quit (to prevent any shenanigans) and then plan my trip more concretely.

Today I took a walk in my local neighborhood to start the day. My new neighborhood is a lot better than my old one - much more people my age in their 20's and 30's walking around, and tons of venues. It really is a quite optimal situation for cold approach and dating, but my aim is to simply approach as I see girls in the immediate vicinity of my apartment and not do dedicated sessions within a mile or two of my place - I do not want to burn the place down if I live here. It was mid-morning on a Monday, so volume is lower, and I let a few opportunities pass me by before I 'woke up' and started approaching.

The first was a complete blowout, she refused to stop even as I fast-walked around her and got in front of her. No biggie.

Then the second one was money. I noticed this fit blonde chick walking in front of me with a black tank top with the word "instructor". After a minute or two of hesitation, I caught up to her and opened from the side. I do not stop her momentum since she was walking in the same direction as me, and we walked together.

As soon as I did she looks happy and goes "hiiiii!" Oh man, I love a positive response like that. And this girl is certainly sexy. I told her I noticed 'instructor' on the back of her shirt and had to come and see what she teaches. She explained that she teaches group fitness classes at a local gym. I tell her I moved to the neighborhood recently but I don't need a gym membership since my apartment gym is quite good. She asked me where I moved from, and I told her my old neighborhood maybe 30 min away - but then told her I've been a nomad and lived all over, including Sweden. I then asked her if she was swedish since she was blonde, and she said no, she is partially british (explaining her accent).

Then I don't remember how exactly I did this transition (I need to start recording my sets again), but I remarked that she probably doesn't drink since she is a gym trainer. She said she does but isn't drinking right now, and hardly goes out. I told her - "how do you meet guys then, do they just randomly come up to you on the street?" and she laughed and said no, she hardly dates. I then took it as the chance to ask her out and get her number, she complied.

We walked a little bit more together post# close before we had to part ways, she went to the CVS and said "hopefully I'll see you soon"

So - seemingly positive. But as any player here knows, number closes mean very little.

Plenty of leads from online and the field to continue to follow up with - and two dates currently set up this week.
 

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Cro-Magnon Man
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Several flakes lately.

Gym instructor from the other day (last post) didn't respond to my feeler text. This is the most frustrating thing about daygame - in my experience, the numbers are way flakier. I've had many over the past months of living in this neighborhood where the street interaction was seemingly good, and yet after that the girl totally ghosts. It's possible there is something wrong with my approaching (that I could work on by recording my sets or hiring a coach), or perhaps this is just the nature of the beast and I need to do more volume. I'll be working on the first possibility by recording the sets first, since that is free.

I also had a second date scheduled with IKEA girl involving cooking at her place, she flaked with numerous excuses, first saying that meeting outside of her apartment would make her feel more 'comfortable', then saying she wants to postpone for 2 weeks because of xyz stuff going on with her job/career. As is standard, I told her it's not big deal, but that it would problably have to wait until September due to my upcoming trip to Colombia.

Which speaking of, is still in the planning stages because I still have some things pending my transition from one company to the other. I still need to give notice and set an end date, which I hope to do Friday once I resolve a few issues. Won't be long now before I start booking flights and hotels, but the wait has been agonizing.

So, bit of a frustrating several days. It has me missing my ex, though I have resisted initiating contact with her because I know the can of worms that will open. It's a constant battle between the emotional part of my brain that misses her and the logical part that knows what will happen if I contact her.
 
a good date brings a smile to your lips... and hers

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Looking at my dating stats so far this year, I go on about 3 dates per month on average and close 1/3. I've had 7 lays this year. This is actually not bad at all especially compared to the tumultuous years of 2022 and 2023. I am back closer to where I was in 2021 around the time I met my ex and before. If the trend continues I will have significantly more lays this year compared to previous years.

Three dates per month is not an unreasonable number of dates PROVIDED that all of these women are high quality. The reason why I say this is, I think the best seduction process involves drinking, and I do not like to consume alcohol more often than necessary for health reasons - often if a girl flakes I take it as a win since I do not have to drink any alcohol that day. I'm also an extremely busy professional and the demands of my job and my fitness take priority over getting pussy while I am working and getting $$$. That being said, if I can bump this number to 4 or 5 dates per month with high quality women, and up my close rate, I think that would be the sweet spot.

I continue to think online dating is an essential part of my funnel. I will continue to optimize my photos as I keep travelling around. Yesterday I decided to switch my Tinder and Bumble profile to Bogota in preparation for my travel there and as expected I am experiencing the usual surge in good quality matches.

I also have to stop letting good opportunities pass me by. There is no excuse.

Walking around my neighborhood without the intention to approach last night, I see a lot of women. Many do not excite me so much. I struggle with this concept of always being 'on' and social, even with women I do not find attractive, since I think I am naturally introverted. And perhaps at 37 years old with >100 lays under my belt (lost count of the exact number), I have a better idea of what is going to truly excite me in bed.

But the truly exciting girls I need to keep approaching. There were two last night I remember that I chickened out on. One stunning brunette with leggings on where you could see right through them and make out her thong, and another gorgeous blonde with a fabulous booty. At minimum these are the girls I need to be approaching, since the risk is minimal - but potential rewards are high.
 

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FR++ -- Beautiful Polish/American

I write this on the day I fly out to Bogotá, Colombia. Everything is all set for my solo trip. It's an exciting time of transition between my old gig and my new (old) gig, and I'm getting a nice payout to boot. Just have to BS a little more in my current job before I give notice (and of course, they won't know I am in South America!).

Last night I had a date with this beautiful woman of Polish origin I found while out dancing in one of my typical local venues.

The meet was pretty standard as it happens with me - it was a dance floor connection. I didn't necessarily notice her before we started dancing. But once I did, I was struck by her face and how beautiful she looked while we were dancing together. I quickly number closed after 1-2 songs. I even considered inviting her back home straight from the bar, but she disappeared before I could pull the trigger on that.

No matter, I got a text immediately after leaving the venue from her, I told her it was great to run into her and she told me the feeling was mutual, and quickly we made plans that night to see each other Thursday (last night).

I pick one of my standard local date venues and sit next to her at the bar. She is very talkative. I run through my standard date material, asking her what kind of guys she likes, differences between men/women in dating, travel stories and charisma stories, and a little bit of sex talk (how to seduce a man vs. a woman).

In my view, the date conversation was good but could have been better. I could have probably steered it more towards sexual topics and done more a deep dive in order to destroy the ASD frames that no doubt existed in her brain. I hope to practice this more on my dates in Colombia.

When I went for the bounceback, she told she is interested in dancing but 'nothing else'. I assured her we won't do anything she didn't want to do. She came back with me, I put on music, and then fairly quickly I kissed her. She was very sensual and affectionate, kissing my face and neck while I reciprocated, but would not let me take her clothes off.

Walked her back to her car after a while, while making vague promises to see each other again. She complied with my request to text me later.

This is the type I would like to be able to close faster, rather than being the guy that needs to take her out on 2-3 dates before sex happens. It's a typical problem I face. But, I know not all girls will bang on the first date.
 
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Having a great time in Colombia so far. It’s amazing how different the sexual market is compared to the west. I struggle to understand it. It may be a multi-faceted phenomenon.

The fact is, I love it here. The women are so receptive to being approached it is unbelievable. And they are on average way hotter than the average women in my home city. Viable male competition is low.

The other curious thing is the judgement I feel I am facing from individuals close to me about deliberately deciding to come here for this more favorable market. Society wants to shame men who choose the seducers journey.

Oh well. I am who I am.
 

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Having a great time in Colombia so far. It’s amazing how different the sexual market is compared to the west.

Was planning a trip to South America soon, and Colombia will probably be my first or second destination.

Can u recommend some cities/locations?
 

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FR++ - Horny Caleña, couldn't close

This one has me a bit confused in all honesty. My current hotel set up here has a rooftop bar with easy access to my room in the hotel. It's perfect.

I took advantage and Ubered a girl here from Tinder I had been talking to for a week or two. She's a thick caleña with dark skin a big ass. Bigger girl, slightly taller than me, but definitely hot.

We are sitting at the bar and I was sure it was on. She reminded me of some of my Tinder dates from Guadalajara 3 years ago that easily closed with a similar set up. At the rooftop bar, she was touching my entire body, putting her face close to mine, and kept trying to kiss me. Typical latina.

I actually denied her kissing at the bar which made her want to kiss me more. This is the kind of vibe I never encounter in the US, where the girl wants to make out with me at the bar within moments of arriving.

I told her she needed to go down to my room to 'practice bachata'. She told me no, but her body and actions told me yes. So I essentially led her into my room.

You can guess what happened next. A lot of escalation, kissing her, fingering her pussy - and yet she had shut herself down, which made me shut down as well.

The mistake problably was I didn't build enough comfort before pulling. Perhaps I should have done more time at the bar before pulling. Or done multiple venues.

But this goes against the conventional wisdom of pulling when she seems to be so keen with her body language at the bar.

So I'm honestly a bit confused at her behavior. One of those cases where I truly don't really get it. I do seem to struggle with building the right comfort that will make sure the girls put out when they come back to my place, there are too many dates which end this way. Something to continue to analyze.

No matter, with the amount of leads here I will have a date every night until I leave!

EDIT - I think in hindsight, her strong verbal objections to the bounceback should have been reason enough to do a second venue before. There was one with dancing next door I could have taken her to preserve things and build more comfort before going for the pull pull pull like I did.
 
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