Científico's Seduction Chronicles

[Científico]

Time for yet another new journal. 2024 will bring significant changes.

Relationship

I finally pulled the plug on this relationship with my girl after 2.5 years. It was not easy. She was such a source of constant validation, love, and affection. It was a beautiful connection we had. And yet the relationship was so complex and often painful.

I could not do monogamy, thus we tried to navigate the complex dynamics of an open relationship. That was a source of continuing conflict and instability. I do not wish to get into further details here.

In the end, I decided I could not give her what she truly desired and ended the relationship. She was devastated. We spent one final weekend caressing each other before saying our goodbyes. We left the door open for reconciliation in the future, but I have significant doubts there will ever be reconciliation. Especially if other quality women come into my life...which they will, let's face it.

I am very sad and I miss her. But the logical part of my brain is 100% convinced that this move is for the best. While I loved her company, something was missing from the comfortable life of being in a relationship with her. She sucked away hours and hours of my time every week. Now I have time to fully concentrate on the game, and finding myself again (hobbies, pursuits, and other women) after devoting so much of my time and energy to her and to the relationship.

Career

(Another) new job is bringing new challenges. I've been shifting around in my industry and found myself leaving one shit show start up company...only to join another small company which is a different kind of shit show. What happens in the next few months will be telling - it will be sink or swim time. I will either make good money and solidify my career, fail and have to leave, or potentially the entire company will fail and I will still have to leave.

Nothing like a good challenge to find yourself, but sometimes I find myself questioning why I put myself in these risky situations. I would rather not have to go on the job hunt again in 2024 with my resume in the disheveled state that it is. I will be devoting a lot of efforts to try to prevent that situation.

Fitness

Without my girlfriend to distract me with excess food and alcohol, my goal is to get back to that 10-12% body fat range in 2024 and get shredded. With the sexual market as ruthless as it is in the United States, I need every advantage I can get. I have done it before, just required discipline with food. I now have free reign to get it done again by the summer.

Learning to Fight

Considering Boxing since I am told it doesn't take a long time to get decent at it. Muay Thai is another alternative. I need to learn to fight so I can handle myself in combat situations. That is another goal in 2024.

Moving Apartments

My current place is upping my rent significantly, so I need to move out. I am considering dating logistics in my new place vs. other considerations like finances, work logistics, etc. The ultimate question will be which to prioritize.

The Game

The Game calls to me. The life of the degenerate seducer calls to me. Especially after another recent trip to Latin America and seeing all the hot women just dying to meet attractive men like me (the sexual market is so different than the US). I'll be going back soon.

In the meantime, I will be documenting my approaches and dates on this journal as I get back into the Game.

 

[Científico]

Compared to latin america, USA is seduction on hard mode. I am always taken back by the contrast. Tougher market here in the west and a man has to do deal with far more nonsense and obstacles. Just increases my conviction that more frequent trips down south are in order.

Approaching

Have good approaching ability these days with minimal AA. Doing about one per day on average.

Attended a speed dating event yesterday. A lot of unattractive women and low SMV males. May not do events like this too often.

However, there were a few cuties that I connected with. One girl was all smiles and touchy-feely and flirty, complimenting my face, my arms, my personality, etc. She even guessed my zodiac sign correctly (gemini), then remarked that I could be 'toxic', or she has the feeling that I am toxic.

I actually didn't have a ready-made response to this! I will have to ponder it. But I think it indicates her interest. Also connected with one more girl at this event with good flirty vibes. I didn't try to number close due to the fact that it was speed dating and we have to 'match', but perhaps I should have disregarded those rules. At least I will feel silly if me and those two do not end up matching.

Apartment

Toured a nice building today that seems perfect in terms of pricing (will save substantial $$$) and amenities, my main concern is logistics, both for work but especially for dating. There are only a few decent looking bars nearby (one nice looking one about 15 minute walk, 5 min drive, and a possible second venue a little closer than that). But perhaps all I need is one or two bars nearby?

It has a nice rooftop lounge with spectacular views that I could use in photo pings and in date/bounce back invites, and a pool. I could use that in 2nd or even first dates (as a second venue). So this place is actually a top contender in my search.

Will be continuing to ponder this over the next week, looking at further apartments and making a decision soon.

 

[Científico]

Many cold approaches at local high volume mall with my wing. Many rejections. We checked out one of the venues inside the mall, and sitting at the bar was a Puerto Rican chick clearly checking me out. I called her out and came right up to her. Engaged her and her buddy in conversation. Buddy was Salvadorian, was not really into my approach. Spent about 80% of the time talking to my target, since I am also Boricua we vibed on that level. Number closed but she has not responded yet.

Went out tonight even though I didn't feel like it.

Glad I did. Reconnected with some old friends. Good vibes with a goofy German chick (number close).

Approached an Ecuadorian with a group of her friends and got her out for a dance. Frosty reception once the bachata song came on (No me gusta bachata!)

I should have engaged the entire party in conversation rather than taking my target out to the dance floor and talking to her 1:1. It indicates more social savviness. A lesson I forgot.

 

[Científico]

I do miss my girl. The cold ass temperatures outside are making it more difficult to approach consistently. And this is the time that I need to be out there most.

I do have some dates (from online) lined up for this weekend. Including with a smoking hot dominican/puerto rican 21 year old college student I already banged last year. Hopefully these girls will help me get out of the slight funk I am in with my ex.

 

[Científico]

There is a part of me that badly wants to contact my ex and rekindle things. I know she would love that.

I know this is a really bad idea. Still, I grieve for my lost love. I know she is out there somewhere missing me.

Breaking up with someone you love is very painful.

 

[Skills]

There is a part of me that badly wants to contact my ex and rekindle things. I know she would love that.

I know this is a really bad idea. Still, I grieve for my lost love. I know she is out there somewhere missing me.

Breaking up with someone you love is very painful.

i knew this was going to happen and is normal..... Don't

 

[Científico]

i knew this was going to happen and is normal..... Don't

Thank you for replying @Skills. It is a somewhat difficult time. I finally pulled the plug on this relationship for a reason. Because I know I can find more women that excite me and she was holding me back from that.

There is a part of me that really misses her. That feeling is exacerbated when I know she is hurting. She is a wonderful woman. I care for her very much. But I am honest with myself in that I cannot support the relationship anymore, because I know it's holding me back from my full potential as a man. I have finally stopped lying to myself, telling myself I can make it work because I just love to love her and love squeezing her.

All relationships must end at some point. I know that my soul longs for more. But there is still that part of me that longs for her touch, her comfort, her warmth. That part which is heartbreaking to let go.

 

[Científico]

This week the funk with my ex has caused me to pass by a lot opportunities. Cold conditions making it more difficult as well. Still some good stuff has happened.

Bar "mini date"

Tuesday I had a nice “mini date” at this dance venue close to where I live.

One of the DJs brought the girl but she was sitting by herself, I took her out onto the dance floor, after conversation determined she was up for a drink at the bar, moved her there then moved her to a secluded table in the same venue.

Got her contact info and we were hanging out for a while, afterwards the DJ dude she came with was giving me all kinds of looks. Now actively conversing to try to move it forward.

CVS approach

Saw a girl inside the CVS today that I just had to approach. She was so cute looking at make up.

Instead of going for the direct opener, designed to try out the "you look just like this girl I used to date" opener I actually heard on this website. As I opened and she turned to look at me I noticed she looked like a prettier version of this chick I have met who is big into Zouk dancing. So I used her as my "ex" in this story with her.

It worked far better than a direct opener would have worked, that is for sure. I could tell the girl was engaging in the fantasy herself, saying some things like "it's nice that you find dance attractive" or something like this - now I wish I had the approach on audio so I could listen again.

It was actually going okay until I self sabotaged myself when I saw another girl in my peripheral vision that I know from the gym. Left the set without trying to close and went to go talk to her instead.

Still, I like this opener a lot for indoor and retail environments - will continue to test drive.

Online

A few decent leads coming in from the apps using my old profile I optimized in 2021. But nothing like the way it is in Colombia or Mexico. I need to continue increasing my approach volume again to really optimize my funnel in the USA.

 

[Científico]

Career Angst

Dealing with some slight fear of the future regarding my current career situation.

The fact is, the place I joined last year has some significant problems. I am not at all impressed by the leadership. The dude that hired me overpromised on what kind of sales were achievable. The CEO is absent and doesn't appear to know how to properly run the business. I have seen signs that that he is in fact delusional and clueless. The product is hard to sell - it provides value in specific situations, but many people in my normal customer base don't need it or cannot meet the price point for what it provides. Morale is low among the entire sales team.

Thus, I am acutely aware of the possibility that things could take a turn for the worst this year if management decides my performance isn't up to par, or something happens at the company level that means I have to leave.

I've been in tough spots like that before and gotten out of them. There are many jobs in my industry, but lately things have taken a turn for the worst macro-economically and I have many contacts out of work right now.

My friend says I worry too much. He is problably right. It's not the end of the world if I do have to leave. I've got many friends in the industry and can problably land another job within a few months. I've even got large pools of cash, currently tied up in investments, that I can even dip into in a pinch if neccesary. I've got no family or dependents to worry about.

Still, I am consciously planning for the worst and reducing my spending at the moment to help build up my cash reserve. Just in case something happens in a few months I am ready to take it on.

I should leave it at that and stop worrying, and learn to live better in the moment. Because every moment I spend worrying is a moment I could be spending doing something else.

 

[Científico]

DayGame Sets

Weather was good this weekend, especially for January, so I hit the streets both Saturday and Sunday with a wing.

15 approaches between the two days, 4 numbers. My favorite approach was with a lawyer of Syrian origin, though the woman had definitely been living in the States for a while. It was a beautiful approach with quite a flirty vibe. The key is, will she respond? That is always the thing with daygame - the flake rate is high. The other three numbers were all from Asian girls (one Vietnamese, two Korean), all kinda shy.

Despite the lower hit rate here in the States, daygame as an activity is one of my favorite things, honestly. It gets me out of the depressive rut of the cold January weather, or thinking about my ex girlfriend (who is becoming more of a memory every passing day).

It doesn't cost any money. There isn't any alcohol involved. There is no loud music or drunk cockblocking dudes. It's not done behind a screen. You walk/run around burning calories, making it a healthy activity. And having wings make it fun. It's honestly a spectacular form of therapy.

I'm excited to do more, there are a few things I want to experiment with - for example, the last time I got laid with daygame in this city I actually planned the date during the set, something I have forgotten to do this time.

Finances and Career

My shitshow job situation has me feeling a bit anxious. I am formulating contingency plans and cutting unnecessary expenses now just in case I find myself unemployed at some point this year (hence why I am hitting the streets instead of using paid dating apps). Applying to some good fit jobs here and there, but still being selective and not applying to everything. There is a chance I could ride out my current gig for a while. But also a chance something might happen to my role or my company at some point this year too. Planning for the worst while hoping for the best.

 

[Científico]

Three dates this week:

1.) FR++ Cute flight attendant.

Matched with this woman on FaceBook dating while working, ended up setting up the date impromptu. Got her out to my favorite lounge/rooftop venue with optimal logistics.

She had recently divorced her husband, just a few years back, and was coming out of a long 20+ year relationship with this person. During the date, the touching was good, and she ended up holding my hand. Bounce back was fine without resistance, but couldn't get past the LMR.

It's probable she just needed more time to be comfortable with sex. But since she is in her 40's, I'm not sure a second date is in the cards here - the investment from me just isn't worth it.

2.) LR - Salvadorian

Another facebook dating match. Picked her up from her place and took her to my venue.

This one was on from the beginning. I think it was a mix of factors that led to the successful lay, including 1.) She is coming more or less straight from El Salvador, has only been in the states a few years, and her English skills aren't good. I was able to make her comfortable being someone of latino origin that could communicate with her. 2.) Clearly I am of much higher socio-economic status than her. 3.) Sexual frame setting was good early in the conversation. 4.) I played a somewhat vulnerable card, telling her I had been so stressed from work (true) that I didn't know quite what I was doing with the date.

She kissed me on the cheek while leaning in close at the bar looking at something on her phone, and I knew it was on at that point.

Back at my place, there was a glimmer of LMR before she asked me - if I have sex with you, will you see me again? I told her yes.

Then at that point the sparks starting flying. She was so turned on and we fucked for over an hour before I drove her back.

3.) FR++ Honduran cutie

This is the continuation of the story I posted earlier.

Bar "mini date"

Tuesday I had a nice “mini date” at this dance venue close to where I live.

One of the DJs brought the girl but she was sitting by herself, I took her out onto the dance floor, after conversation determined she was up for a drink at the bar, moved her there then moved her to a secluded table in the same venue.

Got her contact info and we were hanging out for a while, afterwards the DJ dude she came with was giving me all kinds of looks. Now actively conversing to try to move it forward.

Since then she has been quite good about communicating with me and we set up the date for Friday.

This was by far the most challenging girl of the week, as she was very hot, young (22 years old), and had dolled herself up for the date with a top that clearly showed off her boobs. Despite her latina origin, she had clearly been westernized, preferred speaking English over Spanish, and had experience with men already as she was constantly trying to frame grab.

A lot of princess behavior with this one. In contrast to the Honduran, it took her a lot more time for her to get comfortable touching me/holding her hand. I eventually got there but couldn't break the resistance all the way when back at my place.

In the end, I think my downfall was that I was just a tad too keen (especially when back at my place), and revealed too much about during the date what I truly thought about male/female gender dynamics. I like the routine I have discussing dating, sex, men/women - all of that is good, I just should have flipped the frame a bit more with her and cast her as the person chasing me during the date, not the other way around (I talked a little about how women have high standards and how they initiate break ups more than men, for example- big no no looking back).

 

[Científico]

I'm here. Battered and shaken but very much alive.

The truth is, breaking up with my ex took longer than I expected. I allowed her to come back into my life and caused myself some mayhem in the process. It became very evident that I was starting to lose myself being with her. My core identity and many hobbies, passions and pursuits that had once defined me had slipped away. All too often, I was getting into drug-induced stupors to dull the pain and the emotional draining that was occurring due to me attempting to maintain the relationship.

On Sunday, I finally pulled the plug definitively. It became harder and harder to imagine a future with her with the challenges of our relationship.

This time, it was easier. Still very difficult, but easier.

I feel free now, but there are moments of lingering sadness. My goal is to spend as little time at home as possible during this period of healing and transition.

 

[Skills]

I'm here. Battered and shaken but very much alive.

The truth is, breaking up with my ex took longer than I expected. I allowed her to come back into my life and caused myself some mayhem in the process. It became very evident that I was starting to lose myself being with her. My core identity and many hobbies, passions and pursuits that had once defined me had slipped away. All too often, I was getting into drug-induced stupors to dull the pain and the emotional draining that was occurring due to me attempting to maintain the relationship.

On Sunday, I finally pulled the plug definitively. It became harder and harder to imagine a future with her with the challenges of our relationship.

This time, it was easier. Still very difficult, but easier.

I feel free now, but there are moments of lingering sadness. My goal is to spend as little time at home as possible during this period of healing and transition.

brah! i mean how many times and in different ways, people don't get never get back post break up.... glad you are back!

 

[Científico]

Aftermath

Still reeling from the most recent break up, my brain has been busy analyzing the reasons for why this relationship was such a drain on me and yet why I had so much trouble letting her go.

The reason is because she gave me a mix of both positive and negative reinforcement.

On the positive side, she was very loving and went out of her way to constantly show her love, true from the beginning up to the very end of the relationship. She was a love bomber from the very beginning of the relationship when I met her in the summer of 2021 - at that time, I was exactly the type of man she was looking for, especially since I had just done a lot of work on myself to make myself the most attractive man I could be, and she was unusually confident for a woman in the sense that she was pursuing me and pushing the relationship along to a more 'serious' state quite quickly.

The feeling was mutual since we shared a lot of the same values (veganism, no desire for children, love of travel). There was the issue of distance since we lived in different states and connected over the long distance through a dating app, but at that time it wasn't a big deal to me due to the compatibility and we travelled to see each other.

However, I couldn't give up the seduction lifestyle completely and wasn't genuine with her about that in the beginning. I liked her a lot, but she wasn't a stunner in the looks department (6, maybe 7 when she was looking her best). Eventually I pushed for an open relationship and that is when problems began, since she had problems accepting it but her desire for me was strong so she eventually relented (after pushing back and causing conflict for a long time).

She had high emotional needs and I needed to be on the phone with her a lot due to the distance, contributing to me feeling 'drained' since over the years this morphed into more of a responsibility than a genuine desire to be in such high frequency contact with her. We would literally be on the phone with nothing to talk about. Eventually it got to a point where there was substantial conflict, constant fights and frame battles where she would put up big fights but then relent as soon as I started walking away, contributing to the negative reinforcement. I began to lose myself, lost touch with friends in my area, abandoned hobbies, ingested a lot of cannabis in the evenings to escape the reality of the relationship. Her looks deteriorated further as well.

I don't wish to elaborate much further here, but there were certain events that transpired during the relationship that caused me a lot of trauma, and yet her love bombing and constant gifts kept me in. It was a vicious cycle of fighting, fucking and love bombing, and making up, then fighting again. And yet, the love was there, and certainly those positive beautiful moments with her in person were the main thing that kept us both in it and trying to make it work until the end.

The second breakup is also hard and very painful, but I feel more sure about it now than ever before. Even writing the above is therapeutic as it's good to see it all written down, just how fucked up this relationship was and the damage it caused me. I learned a lot about myself, and confident I won't repeat the same mistakes in the future.

Regaining Social Momemtum

After breaking up again on Sunday, my focus has been on rebuilding myself and regaining what I have been losing since the relationship began in 2021.

I have done a good job going out and being social every night since Sunday. Today is Saturday, and it's the first night since that I have decided to stay in to go to the gym and journal.

Been going out dancing like normal and connecting/reconnecting with women in that scene. I am grateful for the dance community that is always there as a social outlet when I need it.

I reconnected with an old Bulgarian lover (also newly single, but not a stunner in the looks department) on Wednesday and we hung out and had sex.

Last night there was a meetup/happy hour that was mostly a sausage fest and not too many attractive women, but it had me thinking about what type of game I could run in those environments where there is a lot of male competition.

I also did an approach today at IKEA, first one in a while - using straydog's shopping opener that worked well. The girl was black, cute, and had a fantastic booty. After a 1-2 minutes of observation, I noticed she was definately by herself, making her a good target since IKEA is normally full of families and unavailable women with their partners. After the open I transitioned into why she was in the store, where she lived, where she was from, if she liked cocktails, and then number close, and a little bit of chit chat after the close. Unlike a lot of numbers I have gotten in the field lately she has been responding to my texting which is a positive sign.

Dating apps are inconsistent as they usually are here in the States, so I need to put in some more work on leveling up my profile and photos. Luckily now I have the time to do that.

Spontaneous trip to Europe

To help with my healing from the relationship I just ended, next week I decided to fly out to Europe for a short nine day stint to some dance festivals in various cities.

I expect the dating apps to be inconsistent in Europe just like here in the States, therefore the game will be either to go for instant dates/fast closes in the field or at the dance events. And of course reactivating my Instagram showing how much of a cool motherfucker I am that travels to awesome locations.

Frankly, I don't even care if I succeed or not. Just the fact that I am out there and changing my location drastically will be therapeutic.

 

[Bob Z]

Respect bro - I just joined forums and am just now starting to take approaching seriously in aftermath of breakup (though not as much long term as yours). Rooting for you.

 

[Científico]

Woke up again today missing her. My brain goes back and forth - again, that mix of positive and negative reinforcement. Mainly, I miss all the love and positive reinforcement she gave me. However, I do not miss all the negative reinforcement, all the drama and all the emotional draining and chaos.

I need to find new women I'm truly excited about. Supposed to have one from a dating app today but I'm not even sure I want to go, I am exceedingly picky about the women I desire now. And don't like to drink alcohol when not in the prescence of a beautiful woman.

Which means - I need to be approaching like crazy. Goal is at least one per day. Yesterday's was a blow out. Sunday good session with my wing (so important to have a good wing to keep you motivated).

Only a few days left until my flight to Germany.

 

[Científico]

LR - Horny Vietnamese Vixen.

Yeah, I know I said earlier I wasn't sure if I wanted to meet her. I'm glad I did.

She shows up at the bar looking cute with her makeup. Tiny girl, problaby around 5 feet tall. Definately the girl likes to eat and drink, so she had some extra body fat, but not in excess. I liked her mouth and think, full lips. And her cute asian smile.

I could tell it was on pretty quickly. She held my hand and really leaned into my suggestion that I "teach her bachata". I've learned over the years that when a girl holds your hand during the date, it means sex will happen.

In this case, it was also predictive. Threw in a bit of sex talk (8 different orgasms bandit) and DHV travel stories. They may not have been needed, since this girl was horny and DTF from the start. I do think the sex talk is always good to throw in regardless.

Easy bounceback to my place. Once there, it was on almost immediately. No LMR at all.

Multiple hours of fucking. She was LOUD, and hot. Raw dogged it, she didn't even like the condoms.

Walking her back to her car, I almost got a sense she may not be interested in much more. I told her I'd let her know when I get back from Europe, and she shrugged her shoulders. Perhaps I really was the sex toy in this case!

 

[Científico]

Had a date with the IKEA girl tonight but she flaked saying she "forgot" and wanted to reschedule. Which is strange considering how responsive she was in the days following the number close. I let two days pass before reengaging today (the day of the planned date) which usually isn't a problem, I think in this case it indicates a lack of interest on her part. I responded simply, telling her it will have to wait until after I get back. I think I will just ping with some photo from Europe while I am away and then reengage after I get back.

Moments of frustration like these make me miss my ex more, since she was such a consistent and reliable source of love and validation. In these moments I do my best to remember that she was also a consistent and reliable source of pain, drama and frustration.

There is a doc where I typed out all of my reasons, pros/cons and refer to it often in moments like these when the feelings of missing her arise. It helps me remember why I ended it.

Tonight, I will go out to one of my dance venues - and tomorrow, my adventure begins.

 

[Científico]

Last Night Before Travel

Last night the dance venue was unimpressive. I wasn't really into the crowd, and there were few women that interested me.

I even ran into another ex-lover (a short albanian MILF I hooked up with a few years ago) that I believe I could have taken home if I wanted to. I think the poor woman is lonely and she was giving me the same buying signals she gave me years ago. Unfortunately, I have no interest in her anymore.

In short, I am tired of these lower-tier women I sometimes hook up with. I want the upper echelon, the true hotties.

I left the venue before midnight.

Adventure Begins Tonight

As I write this update I am sitting in an airport lounge that I got a free pass for, drinking a free glass of red wine. My flight to Germany is delayed over two hours.

In the past at this airport, I had a successful approach with a cute college student. It happened all the way back in 2019, before my relationship and before COVID. Hard to believe it was already 5 years ago. Instant date that involved food, drinks, and a make out right in the terminal. I continue to believe that had I played my cards right that day, I could have pulled into one of the handicapped bathrooms in the terminal. Alas, it was not to be in this world. Maybe I pulled it off in a parallel universe.

Instead, I was never able to meet up with her again and she lost interest after that. It is an almost universal rule with women - if you escalate physically but DON'T close (meaning P in V), she will rationalize why she didn't fuck you in her mind and won't want to see you again.

Airports can be good approaching environments, but today so far I have only seen one woman worth approaching. She was on her way to board a train to another concourse I didn't need to go to, so I rationalized not approaching her. But with my big flight delay it was silly not to - I could have done it. Would have been a challenging approach with all the people around but not impossible.

Maybe I will pull off a few yet as I leave this lounge (which will close soon anyway) and get back to my gate. But they will most likely be practice. The real game will begin when I land in Europe and try to secure some instant dates and fast closes, either at the events I am going to OR on the street.

I just have to put in the reps!

 

[Científico]

I am having a good trip so far. I am learning a lot about myself and what makes me tick in my newfound true single-hood. A few observations:

--- My German is good enough that people here in Germany really do not feel any need to switch back to English on me. Of course when I open girls in the field I begin in English so she knows I am a foreigner right away. But everyday interactions, it's clear that Germans prefer to use their language and when they see that I am competent they prefer to use German when communicating with me. Therefore, I've taught myself to conversational level without ever attending a single German class. This has been clear to me the last several times I've been here, but I always like to pat myself on the back for it.

--- I am picky when it comes to the women I want to pursue. I am actually turning some women down. I just left a party in which this German fitness trainer (likely late 30's - 40s) was clearly interested in me. Problem is, I found her to be a bit goofy, despite having a decent body. Like I stated before, I feel I want the real hotties at this point, but if I go through a dry spell that is too long maybe this will change.

--- Opening girls in the wild here gives more positive reactions. I have not gotten too many blowouts here, the girls very often stop and chat with me and are quite friendly, even if they hit me with a boyfriend objection later. The problem is, I haven't been out in the field approaching as much as I could be because I am attending the festival in this smaller southern German city.

--- I think Tom Torero was right when he called partner-dancing 'snake seduction'. Even though it facilitates a lot of interactions with women, the conundrum is that it is anti-fast seduction because you have to invest a lot of time dancing with a girl before you can start making motions, at that point there is a lot of courtship element and she may make you wait. I know this but I still choose to spend a lot of time in the dance community anyway.

One thing to make clear: partner dance has great value for seduction on a date, but the community itself with crowded events is simply not the best place to make use of your time if said time at place is limited. It is hard to pull a girl directly from these big events without running into a ton of ASD from the fact that if she is a hot girl she has 50 friends around and for her reputation will never leave an event with a random guy she recently met. She may be open to hooking up if I open her on the street as an outsider, but not AT the party. Cold approaching is MUCH higher throughput and more direct to the lover route.

This has me reconsidering the rest of my plan for this trip. It's either spend the entire time in Germany and do cold approach in Munich all week - or, go with the original plan and go attend another festival in Finland.

My current plan is to see how it goes in Munich for a few days before making the decision.

I did observe this bachatero here doing a ton of three-way dances with two girls at once, which could be a lot of fun to get going in Finland!