Cold approach worth it ? Desptie doing good game, still no results ( no meetup , no lay)

[alexhunter8]

I am 33 year old, level : beginner to intermediate in terms of game skills. have been cold approaching ( mostly in malls ) for past 4 years inconsistently like twice a week . Here are my total results:
-65 % of my approaches interact well.
- 20% number / instagram close rate
- out of which 0 lay and 0 meetup .
- moved 5 girls for insta date neat by.
So ultimately I didn't get even a single meetup after the initial number close.
What frustrates me is that , despite doing great game with few girls , the girls even interact "well , warmly and submissive " on the spot while I cold approach in that moment , ( she behaves submissive and warm ) , but the moment we leave the set she never responds to my texts or calls.
This pattern is repeating with me .
And no matter how good my game I did with some girls in cold approach, it never leads to a meetup afterwards atleast .
I'm fed up with the amount of time and energy I invested roaming for cold approach.
So I'm on the verge of giving up cold approach.

1. I don't have any social circle, all my female friends are out of state far away and busy. I can't game at workplace very risky .
So seems cold approach is my only option? Any other options to access women ?

2.. What should I do now ? Give up cold approach? Or implement something more ?
3. Seems like cold approach doesn't work despite good game ?
4. Is the extreme low meetup rate via cold approach due to STRANGER DANGER and TRUST FACTOR ?( atleast a known person , or semi- social kind of thing plays an important factor in getting the results?).

 

[Will_V]

have been cold approaching ( mostly in malls ) for past 4 years inconsistently like twice a week .

Making two approaches a week or going out to approach twice a week? Typically it takes a few consecutive approaches to warm up for me.

20% number / instagram close rate

That's not bad.

- out of which 0 lay and 0 meetup .

That doesn't add up. Even if you only approached two girls a week, in 4 years that's 416 approaches and 83 numbers you got, and none of them even responded to your icebreaker? Sure you're tracking all this correctly?

In any case, what would really help you is to write field reports to get detailed feedback from experienced guys here.

 

[alexhunter8]

Making two approaches a week or going out to approach twice a week? Typically it takes a few consecutive approaches to warm up for me.



That's not bad.



That doesn't add up. Even if you only approached two girls a week, in 4 years that's 416 approaches and 83 numbers you got, and none of them even responded to your icebreaker? Sure you're tracking all this correctly?

In any case, what would really help you is to write field reports to get detailed feedback from experienced guys here.

Hi, I do 2 times per week , so total around 15 approaches per week.
All are approximate numbers and %.
Yes out of 84 Ish number closes , only 5 or 6 responded to my texts and then they stopped responding .
So 0 meetup .

Also kindly clarify regarding the above 3 queries in my post.

 

[Will_V]

Also kindly clarify regarding the above 3 queries in my post.

As I mentioned, you'll have to write field reports to get any useful feedback, so I can't really answer 2), 3), and 4). I bet you'd get a ton of info to improve things.

As for 1), what can I say? Cold approach is what I prefer, you can try something else if you like. At the end of the day though you have to be able to stand face to face with a woman and capture her interest, no matter what route you take.

 

[OldGuy]

Get involved in social groups! Hiking clubs, dance classes, cycling clubs, etc. will let you get used to socializing and can be a good way to meet women. Write up field reports to get detailed advice.

 

[alexhunter8]

Why most of

Get involved in social groups! Hiking clubs, dance classes, cycling clubs, etc. will let you get used to socializing and can be a good way to meet women. Write up field reports to get detailed advice.

Why all my posts are not getting comments from many experts.
Only you and 2 more chaps have been responding to my posts .
Should I post in some other thread to get responses from many members ?

 

[alexhunter8]

Why most of

Get involved in social groups! Hiking clubs, dance classes, cycling clubs, etc. will let you get used to socializing and can be a good way to meet women. Write up field reports to get detailed advice.

Why all my posts are not getting comments from many experts.
Only you and 2 more chaps have been responding to my posts .
Should I post in some other thread to get responses from many members

As I mentioned, you'll have to write field reports to get any useful feedback, so I can't really answer 2), 3), and 4). I bet you'd get a ton of info to improve things.

As for 1), what can I say? Cold approach is what I prefer, you can try something else if you like. At the end of the day though you have to be able to stand face to face with a woman and capture her interest, no matter what route you tak

As I mentioned, you'll have to write field reports to get any useful feedback, so I can't really answer 2), 3), and 4). I bet you'd get a ton of info to improve things.

As for 1), what can I say? Cold approach is what I prefer, you can try something else if you like. At the end of the day though you have to be able to stand face to face with a woman and capture her interest, no matter what route you take.

I have some audio infield recordings.
How can I post it for breakdown analysis?
And I approach 10 girls per session , so i don't remember the conversation.
So how to effectively write FRs here?

 

[Skills]

4. Is the extreme low meetup rate via cold approach due to STRANGER DANGER and TRUST FACTOR ?( atleast a known person , or semi- social kind of thing plays an important factor in getting the results?).

That is a total myth, not true...get rid of that believe

 

[Will_V]

Why most of

Why all my posts are not getting comments from many experts.
Only you and 2 more chaps have been responding to my posts .
Should I post in some other thread to get responses from many members

That's a pretty rude way to respond to someone taking the time to respond.

I have some audio infield recordings.
How can I post it for breakdown analysis?

A written field report is best. There are plenty of examples in that section of the boards, you want to include a detailed description of what happened, quotes of the conversation if possible, text messages etc.

And I approach 10 girls per session , so i don't remember the conversation.

You have audio though?

 

[POB]

but the moment we leave the set she never responds to my texts or calls.

Your approaches are probably fine.
Think your texting is the problem.

Why all my posts are not getting comments from many experts.
Only you and 2 more chaps have been responding to my posts .
Should I post in some other thread to get responses from many members ?

https://www.skilledseducer.com/thre...e-to-make-friends-not-be-a-drama-queen.28112/

There's something called life that we all have.
Nobody wants to be here 24/7.
Also remember:
1) we are doing it for free to help our fellow members, nobody here is making money out of it (at least not directly inside this forum);
2) whining and cursing never got anyone proper help;
3) this forum is the last bastion of real seduction, you won't find anything close to the quality of this place on the internet;

I know you feel frustrated, but you gotta change that tune ASAP.
BTW, that type of behavior shows a little bit why you are not getting results with women.
(taking vs giving mindset).

 

[Skills]

Your approaches are probably fine.
Think your texting is the problem.

https://www.skilledseducer.com/thre...e-to-make-friends-not-be-a-drama-queen.28112/

There's something called life that we all have.
Nobody wants to be here 24/7.
Also remember:
1) we are doing it for free to help our fellow members, nobody here is making money out of it (at least not directly inside this forum);
2) whining and cursing never got anyone proper help;
3) this forum is the last bastion of real seduction, you won't find anything close to the quality of this place on the internet;

I know you feel frustrated, but you gotta change that tune ASAP.
BTW, that type of behavior shows a little bit why you are not getting results with women.
(taking vs giving mindset).

Yeah i bet you is the texting..

 

[James D]

At the end of the day though you have to be able to stand face to face with a woman and capture her interest, no matter what route you take.

This +++++++1

 

[alexhunter8]

That's a pretty rude way to respond to someone taking the time to respond.



A written field report is best. There are plenty of examples in that section of the boards, you want to include a detailed description of what happened, quotes of the conversation if possible, text messages etc.



You have audio though?

Hey bud, its wrong words in my comment that made you to misunderstand. I respect you a lot.
Yout are taking time and energy for Me, I'm very thankful.
I meant many experts didn't respond, and I didn't mean you are not an expert. It's my mistake not to use apt words there .
Yes i have some audio recordings.
And btw instead of breaking our head on my verbal game , why not you recommend what to say by specifically referencing me any specific video link or site of cold approach?
What's the best video content for cold approach out there?

 

[alexhunter8]

Your approaches are probably fine.
Think your texting is the problem.

https://www.skilledseducer.com/thre...e-to-make-friends-not-be-a-drama-queen.28112/

There's something called life that we all have.
Nobody wants to be here 24/7.
Also remember:
1) we are doing it for free to help our fellow members, nobody here is making money out of it (at least not directly inside this forum);
2) whining and cursing never got anyone proper help;
3) this forum is the last bastion of real seduction, you won't find anything close to the quality of this place on the internet;

I know you feel frustrated, but you gotta change that tune ASAP.
BTW, that type of behavior shows a little bit why you are not getting results with women.
(taking vs giving mindset).

Hey seniors , I really didn't mean that exactly. I used the wrong words there .
Yes I understand and I'm thankful.
I really meant " I am wondering why I'm not getting inputs from some more seniors here? Why only these 2 or 3 seniors are helping "
That's what I genuinely meant .
I'm just seeking more inputs ,
I'm not entitled .
Since I'm new to this group.

 

[Arnav]

I am 33 year old, level : beginner to intermediate in terms of game skills. have been cold approaching ( mostly in malls ) for past 4 years inconsistently like twice a week . Here are my total results:
-65 % of my approaches interact well.
- 20% number / instagram close rate
- out of which 0 lay and 0 meetup .
- moved 5 girls for insta date neat by.
So ultimately I didn't get even a single meetup after the initial number close.
What frustrates me is that , despite doing great game with few girls , the girls even interact "well , warmly and submissive " on the spot while I cold approach in that moment , ( she behaves submissive and warm ) , but the moment we leave the set she never responds to my texts or calls.
This pattern is repeating with me .
And no matter how good my game I did with some girls in cold approach, it never leads to a meetup afterwards atleast .
I'm fed up with the amount of time and energy I invested roaming for cold approach.
So I'm on the verge of giving up cold approach.

1. I don't have any social circle, all my female friends are out of state far away and busy. I can't game at workplace very risky .
So seems cold approach is my only option? Any other options to access women ?

2.. What should I do now ? Give up cold approach? Or implement something more ?
3. Seems like cold approach doesn't work despite good game ?
4. Is the extreme low meetup rate via cold approach due to STRANGER DANGER and TRUST FACTOR ?( atleast a known person , or semi- social kind of thing plays an important factor in getting the results?).

Post sm of ur audio recordings if you hav, or write field report only then members can help you.

 

[alexhunter8]

Post sm of ur audio recordings if you hav, or write field report only then members can help you.

How and where to post audio recordings in this site?

 

[Arnav]

How and where to post audio recordings in this site?

Upload it on your google drive axcoumt and paste the link here, keep the file setting open or public on google drive so people woth the link can see it.