Coming on your dick vs. off your dick: what is the difference for her?

[PatriotsRule]

Hey gents,

Last night my girl came 5 times...but zero times with my cock inside her.

What are some differences a girl is feeling between coming from intercourse/penetration/a good ol pounding with your dick, vs other means of getting her off? Am i in good shape with her as long as i keep making her come? I am the same guy that recently posted the pa/ed topic up this board, so while things are going ok, we're still not making it happen in an ideal sense.

Btw it wasnt necessarily because i dont fuck her right- its just that i dont last long enough right now to get her there. She seems to be escalating to orgasm pretty quick if i can get my hard cock inside her.

Thanks gentlemen

 

[Franco]

PR,

Vaginal orgasm, ultimately, is the more powerful orgasm. Especially if you can combine that with clitoral orgasm and essentially give her a "dual" orgasm simultaneously.

That being said, it also depends on what she feels like her sexual options are as well. If she's never had a vaginal orgasm and you're better at giving her clitoral orgasms than any other guy she's been with, then you're the "best" man in her eyes, so she'll likely want to spend that time with you.

On the other hand, if she's had powerful vaginal orgasms before, and she's starting to get impatient with you, then there's a chance she'll become bored with the sex. It all really depends on the girl. Optimally, you want to be able to give her powerful vaginal and clitoral orgasms with relativel ease so that she sees you as the sexiest man alive, and you run no risk of her becoming bored with the sex -- as a matter of fact, you run the risk of her becoming addicted to the sex!

- Franco

 

[Kaelos]

Vaginal orgasm, ultimately, is the more powerful orgasm. Especially if you can combine that with clitoral orgasm and essentially give her a "dual" orgasm simultaneously.

Franco, by vaginal + clitoral combined dual orgasm do you refer to the adapted missionary position?

 

[Franco]

Kaelos,

Franco, by vaginal + clitoral combined dual orgasm do you refer to the adapted missionary position?

Well, that's one way to do it, yes. =)

There are many positions you can do where you can stimulate both areas though, but adapted missionary is great because you can do it purely through body movement. Some of the other ways of giving her a "dual" orgasm involve thrusting into her with the same strong, rhythmic thrusts while simultaneously stimulating her clit with your hand. I do this a lot with girls. Sometimes I even randomly stumble upon some weird position where I'm able to do it, and we'll just have fun doing it like that!

- Franco

 

[Kaelos]

Some of the other ways of giving her a "dual" orgasm involve thrusting into her with the same strong, rhythmic thrusts while simultaneously stimulating her clit with your hand.

Thank you for your help Franco, I've always had issues with stimulating girl's clits with my hand, it's been frustrating.

• Which fingers do you use Franco? Index? Middle finger? Both? All 4 long non-thumb fingers?
  
• Do you stimulate the clit with an up-and-down motion or do you do a clockwise/counter-clockwise motion?
  
• Are your fingers lightly touching her clit or do you apply a harder pressure?
  
• Do you match your thrusting speed with the clit stimulation? So downstroke of penis going deep inside her is a downstroke on the clit with your hand, then upstroke of penis is an upstroke on the clit with your hand? In the comments section of the article, Chase mentions, "About one thrust per second sounds right; 60 thrusts / minute."

 

[PatriotsRule]

Gentlemen,

Can you give a powerful vaginal orgasm to a woman with your fingers? Im not talking about just rubbing her clit i mean fingering her deep and hard WHILE licking or rubbing her clit. Like in squirt porn when the woman is just spazzing and soaking with pleasure. Obviously it wont compare to a dick inside her but can the intensity of her orgasm compete with that of one from making her come from fucking her? She comes hard and often, and gets soaking wet and probably on the verge of squirting(havent made her really squirt yet but feel like i could with a little more practice) but im just trying to gauge exactly how she is feeling from what im doing to her. And what the ceiling is for this kind of stimulation and how sustainable that is as a lover

 

[Chase]

PR-

I'll weigh in here and say in the event I cum before she does, I prefer the activities to end there.

There's no agreement in science yet, but one of the prevailing theories about female vaginal orgasm is it's designed to increase the uptake of the man's sperm and help ensure the manliest and most-attractive-to-her man (the one capable of making her cum with his cock) is the one who impregnates her.

Anecdotally, this seems to be true to me... when you give a girl that really strong vaginal orgasm, you can feel the muscles in her pussy closing in around your cock like it's just grabbing it and sucking it in and trying to draw out every ounce of your ejaculate into her Fallopian tubes. And the most satisfying sexual encounters are always the ones where the girl starts orgasming hard and then you ejaculate right while she's orgasming. (I've specifically conditioned myself to do this as much as possible... I've had girlfriends remark on how we always orgasm at the same time and it's amazing to them).

When I was younger, if I came before the girl did, I'd try to get her off with my hand, but it always felt... I don't know, off. It felt like I was just making it worse by highlighting the fact that I didn't get her off with my member, like it was my duty to please her instead of a side effect of my own pleasure. The best orgasms for the girl are the ones where she knows you're just ravishing her, purely for your own delight, and then she just starts cumming and cums her brains out. You can give her a mechanical orgasm after with your fingers, but it's just... not the same.

For internal fingering, I find the middle finger + ring finger combination "come hither" motion with your palm facing up (if she's lying on her back) works best. Just one of those fingers is not enough; start sticking your pinkie and forefinger in and it's not as targeted. You just make the "come hither" motion and, if your fingers don't tire out before you get there, you can make her orgasm by stimulating her g-spot, and potentially make her squirt all over you. This is not the same as a deep "back wall" vaginal orgasm where your cock is pounding the back of her vagina / tip of her cervix; it's pretty much impossible to stimulate that properly with fingers, and that's where the most intense orgasms come from.

The psychological element is also worth considering; much of the excitement of sex is domination + impregnation, neither of which is achieved through fingering. Sex is exciting when she feels like you are dominating her with your manhood, and it's exciting when she feels like you are impregnating her with your manhood. When it's fingers instead of cock, it can still be pleasurable for her, but it's in a different (lower) tier of pleasure (you are doing this purely for her - which is quite nice of you - but you are neither enjoying direct sexual pleasure yourself, nor are you delivering your payload into her hangar doors).

For this reason, these days, I keep fingering to foreplay.

And, if on occasion I cum too quick, and I want to make sure she gets hers, I just make sure my refractory period isn't too long, and give it to her better the next time around. Seems like sometimes these can be some of the strongest orgasms the girl will get, when you shagged her for a while, stopped, then went back to it again later and made her cum.

Chase

 

[Sophisticated Gent]

Gentlemen,

Can you give a powerful vaginal orgasm to a woman with your fingers? Im not talking about just rubbing her clit i mean fingering her deep and hard WHILE licking or rubbing her clit. Like in squirt porn when the woman is just spazzing and soaking with pleasure. Obviously it wont compare to a dick inside her but can the intensity of her orgasm compete with that of one from making her come from fucking her? She comes hard and often, and gets soaking wet and probably on the verge of squirting(havent made her really squirt yet but feel like i could with a little more practice) but im just trying to gauge exactly how she is feeling from what im doing to her. And what the ceiling is for this kind of stimulation and how sustainable that is as a lover

I have had them squirt with finger fucking. I also had one girl pass out on me while fingering her. That was actually scary because I wasn't sure what was going on until she came to. That was awesome for her. But I agree with Chase I use the fingering to get things started. They usually tell me when they want me inside of them. So I know when to switch. Of course I usually tell them to not yet. Then the begging starts.

 

[JakethaSnake]

Foreplay almost always makes the sex better for the both of you. If you can use your fingers to make her squirt, then try doing that same thing when in missionary, or at least rub her clit while you have one of her legs on your shoulder. Also, during doggystyle, I like to rub the clit from that position, it's easier if you spread her cheek or have her hold it to give your hand a lil more space.

Tip to give vaginal orgasms, is to not just pound straight ahead. Test different angles with different speeds, and then go from shallow to deeper penetration to keep her pussy guessing so to speak. Lastly, if you're blessed to be endowed there's a fleshy button that you can feel in the back that will lead to vaginal orgasm easily if you keep tapping it. This is what I usually find early on and multiple orgasms come back to back.

Explore the vagina bro.