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Warhol

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Hey guys just needed some mindset advice. In Chase's article on game imbalance hypothesis, he posted this comment

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So to sum up the comment, it's, "Black men face stiffer sexual selection pressures than white men," correct?

This comment seems to be agreement with the premise in the guise of some form of dissension.

It depends on what country we're talking about of course - last I heard, black men in Sweden were treated like KINGS by the women, while white men mostly stood around holding their dicks and feeling sorry for themselves. But I imagine you're talking the U.S.?

My black American friends who were good with girls have generally had the tightest, smoothest game of any of the guys I've known. I attribute that to - as you - a more competitive market with tougher selection pressures. It's harder for a black man to find a mate, and as such the market grooms him to be better than men from other races.

At the same time, I don't want us to get into a "who's the bigger victim" competition, because that doesn't do anyone any good (and I can easily go on and on about how I had to watch girls flirt with me only to go on to sleep with my black friends back in school - so we can do, "Sure, black guys have it hard - but not NEARLY as hard as pale white guys with red hair...!" or whatever... anyway, I already covered the who's the bigger victim competition in this article: “I Can’t Get Girls Because Girls Only Want [BLANK]”; the argument is a red herring from dealing with a man's real issues, which are always fundamentals- and game-related).

I agree with you that there is a stigma against dating black men. That frightens many women off of them; it intrigues many more. The primary thing I would keep in mind about this is that it is a male driven stigma, not a female one. If you get women talking candidly, even conservative ones, they will admit that they are very curious about sleeping with a black man. The people who are making the racist comments on YouTube are nearly all men, and they're doing it out of fear. Black men have reputations as strong, sexual, and sexually competitive; for the same reason that Asian men in Asia do not want to date Asian women who have been with white men (because they know they will forever be compared against said white man), white men generally do not want to date white women who have been with black men (because, again, they know they will forever be compared against said black man).

It's largely an attainability issue on men's parts. Every man wants to be the strongest, sexiest, most potent man his woman has ever been with.

In the past, this was achieved by men insisting on marrying only virgins.

Today, it's maintained by men looking for less experienced women, or abstracting away their women's partner counts in the event of themselves dating more experienced women, and frequently willfully deluding themselves (with the woman's help) into thinking that of course they are the most sexually powerful man she has ever dated. She'd never want anyone else.

When the man knows the woman has without a doubt been with a man who's likely more honed than he is, due to emanating from a more competitive sexual market, he is unable to delude himself, and enters auto-rejection.

This is where all the racial talk of "tainting" and the woman's "purity" and whatnot comes from - what these men fear is that once she's gone black, she never really comes back. And that means she never really becomes theirs... so they use disgust to protect themselves (disgust / revulsion is an auto-protect mechanism used to keep one away from things that are potentially harmful - e.g., vomit, feces, but also people who might suck you in and harm you in some key way if you don't auto-protect yourself out of their grasp - including women who will never truly be your women and as such may be a threat to the very survival of your genes).


I was wondering what can I do to deal with being compared to men of other races or penis sizes or whatever. What are good mindsets to have other than abundance because when I date a girl this insecurity comes sweeping I sometimes. Also what are some thoughts on the ego thing on being a girls best. Is that important or not important and why. How do you all avoid being fixated on being a girls best?
 

Seventh_Sky

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The men who have the greatest fear about their competition are the weakest and most insecure ones.

But instead of working to improve themselves and their own qualities, they insist on imposing restrictions on the women ("pure virgins" as you said in your post) or by stigmatizing other races (black, asian, etc). It's kind of like cheating on a test. Instead of getting smarter, you work the system to get the result you want. Not where any self-respecting guy wants to be.

By this logic, feeling the need to be the "best" for every woman you meet is ridiculous. No matter how good you get there is probably someone better out there, so all you're going to do is mess yourself and other people up. Insecurity and weakness at its finest.

How would you get by it? Endeavor to be the best you can be, and keep your standards high but reasonable. The fear of needing to be the best for a woman is probably born of neediness, the safety of knowing that you can hang onto her. If you were actually strong, you would be able to replace said woman if a better guy does come along.

Basically, instead of worrying about other people, worry about yourself. Definitely a message that's been said before here.
 

Chase

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Warhol-

I'd differ with Seventh_Sky a bit in that I'd point out there are two ways a drive to be "the best" can go.

In one way, you refuse to date women who aren't inexperienced, "pure", virgins, etc. Basically any woman who may potentially have encountered a man "better" than you, you avoid. That's because "better" is not something you can change or impact.

In the other way, you focus on turning yourself into a man any woman can confidently say is one of her best. Keeping in mind that it's very hard to compare mates, unless one guy just really sucks compared to others. e.g., it's quite hard for me to really say one of my prior girlfriends is superior to another... I'm quite fond of all of them.

Comparison isn't generally a problem unless the girl's unhappy. If she's happy with you, you could be half the height of her last boyfriend, have half the income, and half the penis length, and she won't care much or at all. She's just happy and glad to be with you. But if she's unhappy, she'll find a reason for it. Even if you are "The Best", she will find something else one of her priors was better at than you, or some quality she read about in a magazine that she wishes you had.

The kind of fear of not being the best I mentioned in the comment you quoted is the kind of fear Seventh_Sky's referring to as insecurity, and it is. I've had girlfriends who've had prior boyfriends who made much more money than I did or had monster-size penises and it's never inspired an ounce of insecurity in me personally, because to me those things are peripheral to what women really want (women prefer confidence over resources, and I'm quite confident in myself; and they prefer orgasms over penis length, and I have no difficulty delivering up the goods there either).

So, if you have any insecurities like this, I'd focus on figuring out what women really want and then figuring out how to deliver it to them. e.g., if you're afraid of being judged inferior to some previous boyfriend from XYZ race she had, figure out what it is about guys from that race that you think is superior to you, and be better than them. For instance, if she had a black guy as a boyfriend and you're afraid she'll think he's more manly than you'll ever be (and black men do have higher testosterone levels, behave more outgoing/aggressive, and have sex more often than other races, for instance), then focus on upping your testosterone/masculinity and you won't have to worry about that - go hit the gym, put on some muscle, get comfortable socializing and be more outgoing. You don't even have to be better than the guy in every department; just shore up your weaknesses, then amplify your strengths, and you'll be far ahead of almost any guy out there and probably most/all the guys she's been with. That's where the "be the best" philosophy comes in in a helpful way - you just get good enough in the departments you know women want, and then you don't worry about whether her priors were this or that or did this or that.

Chase
 
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