confused: moving girls

[holahola]

Hello everybody.
I am a big fan of the idea of moving girl as a way to get compliance, show leadership, and scanning which women are really interested.
That said, it is not always clear how to do that in practice in terms of logistics. Say you are in a very small bar, and outside is bloody cold, and there is no reason to go anywhere else than where you actually are. How can you still move the girl in such a situation? Any suggestions?
thanks

 

[Ross]

Hey holahola, (a bit redundant )

there is no reason to go anywhere else

I believe that you are finding trouble with matching up the logic of moving the girl with the emotional response of moving her. Sure, moving her in conjunction with logical reasons to back it up is great. It accomplishes the emotional effects of compliance, chasing, and investment. But what about moving her when there is no justifiable logical explanation?

Still do it. This is actually a tactic that I see a lot of women use. I knew a girl that used to always attempt to part from me when walking to take different paths. Logically, it made no sense to me. It also drove me nuts and made me more attracted to her, even when I didn't follow.

You see, even without things making logical sense, you can accomplish the emotional. I believe that the emotional response will be more potent for it. When moving a girl in a small bar, your explanation for the movement has no need for logical sense. You can tell her you're moving somewhere more comfortable. It doesn't have to be more comfortable.. What's important is that she came with you to somewhere new.

 

[NarrowJ]

Hey Ross (or anybody else),

I'd like to read some examples of how to move a girl. Maybe a few different scenarios. I usually just ask them to come sit down with me, or walk with me. Are there other (efficient) ways to move a girl?

 

[holahola]

Ross,
Thanks much for your answer. Yes I guess being a man I feel the bound to be logical (as Chris Rock says)! I'll definitely try your suggestion!

 

[Estate]

I don't think moving a girl to a completely new location or activity is necessary.
If you can do that you are literally "bouncing" her to something new but just "moving" can be something tiny.

Move from leaning against the bar to an open seat, the patio, somewhere quieter, somewhere to dance (not my favourite anymore but a move is a move), or even if she's leaning at the bar, it can literally be as simple as making her stand away from the bar or to the other side of you.
It's not really about what you do, it's more of a psychological thing I found:
If you approach her at the bar, lets pretends she's been there chatting with friends, all goes well but you still injected yourself into "her" space... so you tell her, "Come, sit over here". The seat can literally be 3 steps away, but you moved her and lead her to YOUR zone (which is basically anywhere you lead her away form her own space). It just means you got some compliance and you aren't standing on her space anymore, she's on yours.

If you are talking about "bouncing" a girl which is a BIGGER move, only then does logistics come in and in this case you want to have logistics to take her somewhere.
If you move her from a buys party to a walk out in the cold, there's can't be a "um, well... now what?" moment... I think you need to know where you are bouncing her too and make sure you're not taking her from a fun environment to less fun.

 

[Flames]

Moving a girl is just a way of gaining investment, same as simple things like "hey order me another drink, I just need to goto the bathroom", anything where you get her to do something for you, or with you.

It's actually a fairly good guide as some girls absolutely will not do stuff for/with you and some will do practically anything for/with you.

I do it a lot with the current 'main' girl from my journal, she'll generally say 'No' then chuckle to herself and do it anyway, it's one of the things which keeps me making an effort

 

[Ross]

I'd like to read some examples of how to move a girl. Maybe a few different scenarios. I usually just ask them to come sit down with me, or walk with me. Are there other (efficient) ways to move a girl?

I'm assuming that by efficient you mean ways which appear smooth and don't encounter much resistance. A very simple and efficient way of moving women is simply by using non-verbals to easily shift her in an environment. Examples, as requested:

- You meet her standing in line at a clothing store. You tell her to wait a second after she buys her clothes, and then proceed to walk next to her going in your own direction while talking to her or her talking to you.
- You start talking to her at a library while sitting down. You tell her to come with you to another part of the library to show her something.
- You start talking to her while standing up at a party in a social circle of friends. You lead her by the small of her back out of the circle towards somewhere else in the party (or to a secluded place).

Small of the back lead & conversation lock-in to ensure she follows are good techniques to use so that it simply becomes easier for her to follow rather than to resist.

If you approach her at the bar, lets pretends she's been there chatting with friends, all goes well but you still injected yourself into "her" space... so you tell her, "Come, sit over here". The seat can literally be 3 steps away, but you moved her and lead her to YOUR zone (which is basically anywhere you lead her away form her own space). It just means you got some compliance and you aren't standing on her space anymore, she's on yours.

Sure, there are some simpler, smaller techniques to get her investment. Allowing yourself to be locked-in is a mini-step that I like to include so that she is getting into my space, even though I put myself in her space. These are very, very nuanced parts of seduction though. A focus on the bigger picture is much more useful to a beginner/intermediate.

And, as Flames states, it's just a form of investment. There is a point in a seduction where you absolutely must move a girl to close; just as some form of contact needs to be initiated. Sure, you can pull a girl without asking her to move, just as you can pull a girl without talking to/getting to know her. It's a simple, efficient, and useful tool.

 

[holahola]

Hello guys,
thanks for your comments they really help.

 

[skin_man]

Hi Ross thanks for the reply.
recently, i found it's rather challenging to pick a girl while on a queue. And i find that's where many cute girls i've seen slip through for me. I could start talking while we are on the queue but then the transition faults when I have to pay and she's already made her payment. I've had some girls wait slightly out of politeness and I asked them out but some don't wait. Can you give a tip on how to ask pick girls while on a fast moving(or any sort of) queue?

Thanks

 

[NarrowJ]

Skin man,

Dude- tell her to wait up. Like "hey don't run off, I want to talk to you a little". This accomplishes a couple things, you get her to stop and talk, and you also get compliance if she does. Two birds with one stone, brotha!

 

[skin_man]

Thanks NarrowJ, I guess I'd thought of that but never overcame inertia, (or anxiety) to do it cuz it might mean getting refused in front of everyone else in the queue, and store as the case may be.

Glad you pointed that out.

 

[NarrowJ]

Thanks NarrowJ, I guess I'd thought of that but never overcame inertia, (or anxiety) to do it cuz it might mean getting refused in front of everyone else in the queue, and store as the case may be..

I wouldn't worry about it in this case. If you're cordially telling her to wait up because you just want to talk, and she refuses.. Who looks like a bitch here? It's not you. All you did was make a simple request for one iota more of her time. If she refuses to give you 60 seconds of her time and trots off instead- now who looks bad? It's not you. She looks like a stuck up bitch. She's the only loser here