FR Conversational Emphasis

[AsianPersuasion]

Due to the big increase in the amount of time I put into each interaction, I didn't do near the amount of approaches I've done previously... However, the interactions were very refreshing and I am genuinely glad I got to speak with those girls, so I think I'm going to stick my interactions like this more often.
It'll be hard to detail my interactions due to overall length, but I think I'll do as best as I can.

My First Success with a Non-Employee: New hunting grounds, new goal. I was determined not to crack under pressure and persist in talking no matter what. I was prepared to push myself into the water and sink as many times as I needed to before I learn to swim. This girl was with her friends, but despite the fact that they were all shopping together, when I opened, they giggled a bit, and then pretended to not even be there.
Me: "Hey! I saw you, and I had to come tell you that you look absolutely amazing! I'm AP."
Her: "Oh! Um.. Thank you!" (My approach clearly shook her up, and she was visibly nervous.)
Me: "What's your name?"
Her: "Heather."
Me: "Before we continue though... I want to know.. How old are you?"
Her: "I'm nineteen."
Me: "Really? Great! I'm barely legal too! So nineteen... that means you're still in school right? What major are you going into?"
Her: "Um.. I'm not sure yet.. Haha.. I'm just kind of working on my generals right now."
Me: "Well, if you could have any job in the world, what would it be?"

The conversation was rocky, but she never left, and despite how nervous she seemed, she never turned to her friends once... Plus, she invested into the conversation too and mirrored my questions from time to time. Every time I lost my train of thought, I blamed her eyes for mesmerizing me. I would comment that my problem was not knowing when to shut up, and that my health teacher would have loved to have been able to do what she did with her eyes. She told me she wanted to be a journalist, and I cold read her as a people person for that... Somehow, relationship status came up.

Her: "I'm sort of single.."
Me: "Hmm... define single.."
Her: "Like.. I'm sorta seeing someone, but it's not serious really"
Me: "Haha! How many?"
Her: "Just one... What about you? How many are you seeing?"
Me: "Hmm... I'd rather not say.."
Her: "Oh boy.."
Me: "Well, the reason I'm not looking for anything too serious right now is because..."

I went onto this monologue about how I wanted to be a doctor that would change the medical system, and that I would get a lot of bad press and have drug companies putting bounties on my head.

Me: "...and I really don't want to have to worry about having a wife and kids that those vultures can go after to get to me.. Do you kinda get what I'm saying?"
Her: "Yeah, totally!"
Me: "So anyway, what's your favorite drink from Caribou? I mean, you look to me like a Caramel Cooler kind of person, but I could be wrong.." (Caramel Cooler is a very popular drink, so I blindly guess that every single time."
Her: "Yeah, I actually am! Haha, that was actually really good!"
Me: "Really? Awesome!" (I then proceed to give her the Rock Paper Scissors handshake)
Her: "What about you? What do you like to drink?"
Me: "I'm actually a real big tea person.
Her: "I like tea!"
Me: "Really? Awesome! You ever been to Teavana in Maplewood?"
Her: "Yeah, I think I've been there once! Or Tea Garden?"
Me: "I.. don't think I've ever been there actually! Haha, is it like an actual tea shop?"
Her: "Yep!"
Me: "I always like to go into tea shops to sample the tea and admire the pottery... I'm really really into art, and I used to make all sorts of things a long time ago. I just haven't found the... damn it, I can't think of the word.."
Her: *laughs*
Me: "Nope... still nothing.. it's your eyes, I swear! I think I'm gonna have to close my eyes around you or something.. I feel as though you're hypnotizing me."
Her: *more laughter*
Me: "INSPIRATION! There!"

I went into the conversation with the intent to stick to the conversation and try to postpone the number swap, but quite frankly the pressure was growing, and with the two of us talking about tea shops, I saw my opportunity. I asked if she wanted to meet up sometime so I could take her to Teavana, she said yes, and she gave me her number.

Me: "Awesome.. I'm usually a much better talker than this!"
Her: "Oh no, you're fine!"
Me: "It's your eyes, I keep telling you! Haha, do you think you could give me a hug to make me feel more at ease around you?"

So we hugged, and I was off to start a new conversation.

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Woman #1: I walked into Express, hoping to meet a girl I gave my number to who hasn't called me yet, but I didn't see her. I found a woman there though, and boy was she dressed to kill.
Me: "I didn't want to be one of those guys who just walks right past you and doesn't bother to tell you how great you look.. I'm AP! You look absolutely amazing!"
Her: "Haha, thank you!"
Me: "Yeah, and not just as a sexy girl too, you're dressed to kill! Look at you, you're a pimp!"
Her: *Laughs*
Me: "So what are you up to today? Are you on a mission for anything specific?"
Her: "Actually.. I'm kinda here with my boyfriend.."
Me: "Oh shit.. Okay, I wouldn't want to get you in trouble or anything, so I'll shut up.. *laugh*"
Her: "No, that's okay! Thanks for the compliment!"
Me: "Yeah, you seriously look bomb today"
Wish I could have talked with her more, but oh well.

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Woman #2 I hardly remember this conversation because it was so long. It started out with me walking in, and her asking if I was looking for something specific. I gave her the old red button down answer and danced a bit when I said "sort of like my get-up right now." I told her she was very cute and asked if I could be her entertainment for the night as I was trying on clothes. The two of us talked about her job as a manager, how she came into that profession, her future goals, and what we both liked about that kind of job.. Somewhere along the lines, I asked if she was working together with a lucky guy, to which she replied that she lives with her boyfriend and four year old daughter. I don't remember the rest of the conversation, but I asked her to meet up with coffee sometime..

Her: "Meet up... In what sort of way?"
Me: "What do you mean?"
Her: "Well, I told you I have a boyfriend and a daughter."
Me: "Yeah, well, I have a golden retriever and a guitar!"
Her: "*laughs* Plus I'm way older than you!"
Me: "Haha, well, age is just a number, and jail is just a room." (Don't know why I added the jail part. I'll leave that out next time.)
Her: "Haha, you're free to come in and talk anytime you want, but I'm not going to prance around the city with you. Sorry!"
I don't remember how exactly I ended the interaction, but I remember maintaining my sociable attitude and wishing her a good night.

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Girl #1: This one worked at DSW, and smiled at me when I came in. I really wanted to meet another non employee, but there were none around, so I decided to make conversation with her. This was by far the smoothest conversation I had all day, but for that same reason, I don't remember many details.

Me: "I didn't want to be one of those guys that just walked in and walked out without telling you how great you look.. And I think you look absolutely amazing."
Her: "Really? Thank you!"
Me: "Haha, who's the lucky guy?"
Her: "My fiance, haha!"
Me: "I've got to hand it to him. He really is a lucky guy.. and he's got great taste."
Her: "Haha, thank you!"
Me: "Are you still in school?"
Her: "Yep!"
Me: "What major?"
Her: "Um.. dance haha.. I want to be a dance instructor"

Her and I got into a long conversation all about dancing.. She talked about how she's been dancing since she was a little kid in the same town I grew up in for 5 years. I asked about the types of dancing that she does, and asked about latin dancing. The conversation then flowed into the spanish language and how much we both loved the culture and wanted to travel there.

Me: "You could meet a sort of Don Juan character and have him sweep you off your feet."
Her: "Haha, maybe!"

The conversation then went onto music and how she was really into singing

Me: "So you're like a really good singer then, huh?"
Her: "Haha, well, I don't like to go around bragging.."
Me: "No sweat. Every girl I meet tells me they aren't that great, but end up proving me wrong when I hear them."
Her: "*laughs* I used to go to competitions for singing all the time for like choir and stuff! I also just started learning to play piano though.. I don't like playing instruments that much though."
Me: "I get you. It isn't quite the same as singing where you can just let all your emotions out with your voice. I mean, I play the guitar, but I enjoy singing more. Haha, I'm not as good as a pro like you, so I just do it in the shower!"
Her: "Yeah, I do it in the shower to!"
Me: "What kind of music do you normally sing? You seem like a country singer to me."
Her: "I love singing country! I always blast it whenever I'm happy and it's cleaning time.. well, we're not always happy, but yeah, whenever it's cleaning time, it'll be playing! I sing all kinds of music though!"
Me: "Any Aerosmith?"
Her: "A little!"
Me: "I always wished I had Steven Tyler's voice! Do you play any other instruments?"
Her: "Not really.. I like the violin though!"
Me: "So what's keeping you from learning to play?"
Her: "I don't know..
Me: "I mean, life's short. Why not do the things you enjoy?"
Her: "Haha, I'm pretty content with my life right now I think. I mean, with this job too, I've been pretty busy."
Me: "And then after this, you'll be a dance instructor... At Larkin's hopefully?"
Her: "Well, hopefully. If they're hiring at all anyway."
Me: "All you gotta do is flirt with the manager a bit and you'll be set!"
Her: "Haha, well the manager is kind of a girl.. Plus she was old when I started dancing, and she'll be old now."

I could have talked to this girl for hours... Unfortunately it was time for them to close, and I had to tell the manager I would be out in just a few minutes.

Me: "Okay, so it looks like I can't stay for much longer.. I do want to meet up with you though.. Do you want to grab coffee sometime?"
Her: "Nope, I can't sorry. I have a man. Haha, but it was really great talking to you though! You're an awesome customer!"

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So only four approaches this time around, but this time around it was a lot more enjoyable and less routine. I thought less of the girls as numbers and more as people I genuinely wanted in my life... Especially that last one. My conversation was really helped by watching samples from Sasha Daygame and James Marshall, who both have infield videos on YouTube for anybody that may need an example to follow. (Thanks Laowai!)

I'll be back tomorrow when the sun is shining and there are more girls to talk to. And this time, I'll aim for the non-employees and try to keep myself from hitting on the hired guns too much. I don't want to over exhaust my hunting grounds because this place looks like it attracts more girls at my age.

 

[Laowai]

Excellent. Fabulous. Legendary. Worthy of a poem.

I especially like that you're doing what I suggest and that you're getting measurable results from it.

This girl was with her friends, but despite the fact that they were all shopping together, when I opened, they giggled a bit, and then pretended to not even be there.

In this case her friends moved aside, but in other cases they just remain there. In those situations you must address them too and talk a bit to them. Ideally, you can talk them about your target.

Me: "Well, the reason I'm not looking for anything too serious right now is because..."

Avoid saying that you're not looking for anything serious. You don't win anything by bringing this up and you could potentially push her away if she's only looking for smth serious.

I went onto this monologue about how I wanted to be a doctor that would change the medical system, and that I would get a lot of bad press and have drug companies putting bounties on my head.

Lols. You're doing well at attraction game. You're good at talking. You need to make sure to qualify them a bit better. Artisan opens direct, and always asks them afterwards: "so, tell me something interesting about you, I want to get to know you." Did you see the hoop she has to jump through right there?

Did you lock in when you were talking to Heather? ... I didn't think so.

Me: "I'm actually a real big tea person.
Her: "I like tea!"
Me: "Really? Awesome! You ever been to Teavana in Maplewood?"
Her: "Yeah, I think I've been there once! Or Tea Garden?"

In the future you can always seed having tea with the girls as your standard excuse for seeing them again. This makes it easy to time-bridge for. Remember this, this will from now on be one pre-planned date option.

I asked if she wanted to meet up sometime so I could take her to Teavana, she said yes, and she gave me her number.

Excellent, but you need to make it as specific as possible. So try to find a specific date, and a specific time, and a specific place to meet. This is again to gauge her compliance and hence her interest levels.

Remember to take the next girl who is out alone for an instant date. It'll be fun for you and you'll be able to say to yourself: "wow, now I can date girls immediately after talking to them for just three minutes!"

With the other girls you're doing great at conversation. They all have BFs? How can you use that to your advantage? Seeing how well you connect with them, you get their numbers and make them your friends. That way you expand your social circle and can get a chance to bang their friends.

Remember to write down your realizations too, things you did well, things to improve.

If you continue at this pace, you'll get laid in no time. And then I'll see you on http://www.HornyGirlsChaseAsianPersuasion.com/boards

 

[AsianPersuasion]

Awesome! I actually hadn't even thought of making the girls my friends... Haha, I guess I've been taking so many measures to stay out of platonic friend territory that I never considered the possibility despite how cool the girl was.. I'll probably see her again, so when I do, I'll just ask for her number and I'd be fine being just friends because of how cool she is, but playfully warn her that I'm still attracted to her.

I need to look up Artisan on YouTube when I've got time. I'll definitely use the "tell me something interesting about you" after I finish a monologue.

Thanks for all the advice and good words! I'm aiming for an LR before summer ends.

 

[Laowai]

I'll just ask for her number and I'd be fine being just friends because of how cool she is, but playfully warn her that I'm still attracted to her.

... and if you wanna bang her friends, you probably don't want to hit on her too. You're running the risk of coming across as waaay playa. Again, think of your reputation, man.

 

[Laowai]

I'll just ask for her number and I'd be fine being just friends because of how cool she is, but playfully warn her that I'm still attracted to her.

... and if you wanna bang her friends, you probably don't want to hit on her too. You're running the risk of coming across as waaay playa. Again, think of your reputation, man.

 

[Smurf]

Dang AP! You're progressing extremely fast! Hopefully I can catch up at some point, haha! You're doing awesome, man! Keep it up!

 

[PrettyDecent]

Hey AP,

As far as FR's go, this is great. You really demonstrate your social aptitude with admittedly clever and witty comments. Can't wait to see that LR, brother.

Jake

 

[AsianPersuasion]

Thanks Jake! You'll catch up to me soon enough! I'm only free to do this for the summer, so I'm trying to get as much time in as possible.

Thanks for the compliments PrettyDecent! I'm still working on that LR. One of the girls I chatted up assumed I compared her boyfriend to a dog when I said "well I have a golden retriever", so I think it might not be best to use that one anymore haha.

Though I'll refrain from asking the girl out and hitting on her overall, I think it'd be wise to maintain the sexual innuendos and eye contact.. Just so I don't get boring

 

[Captain CornontheCob]

Hey AsianPersuasian,
Great stuff, love your enthusiasm for the game of pickup. And also great job on the 5-10 min number close with a chick you just met, a lot of men(at least where I'm from) baulk at the notion. Also her being nervous means you are on the right track with your fundamentals.

As you start getting really good the only thing left to really improve is the little details such as certain phrases or statements.Although, the golden rule "Its not what you say, its how you say it" heavily applies to pickup both things matter as you start to pickup the highest caliber of women.

Her: "Just one... What about you? How many are you seeing?"
Me: "Hmm... I'd rather not say.."

This answer could be seen as evasive and depending on your fundamentals can lead her to speculate to all kinds of things, off the top of my head right now that would be better

Her: "Just one... What about you? How many are you seeing?"
You: Why?worried about competition?(Sexy smile)
or
You:As many as I want(cocky answer),
or
You: she asks you the question, a slow smile spreads across your face as you look at her, then tilt your head up a little and laugh, then look back down at her and give her a wink then proceed the conversation as normal( you are acting like you know exactly why she asked the question and that she is being silly for worrying)
or
if you like to confuse girls you can pass off blatant bullshit posing as a gem of wisdom to her questions, or give a long winded answer that seem to answer her question but actually doesn't like politicians use
Her: "Just one... What about you? How many are you seeing?"
You: You know..... A wise man once said...if I know one thing....its that I really don't know anything. (then just proceed as normal)
long winded answer
You: Yeah thats the problem,isn't it, there are so many great people here, the food is also great, the drinks, the places to go, when all mixed together it turns into a haze that pulls you in, you try to pull out though, especially when constrained with work you know you have to get done, such a shame, anyway ( then ask her something and proceed as normal)

Anyway not saying you use these but the gist of it is is that when women ask you probing questions like this its better to not answer directly or evade it, if you can't think any verbal response to a probing question just do number 3.

Do you kinda get what I'm saying?"

I used to say this all the time too, bite your tongue every time you are about to say this if you have to because confident men do not say this, they assume that any sentence they say will be understood fully unless asked otherwise.

Me: "Really? Awesome!" (I then proceed to give her the Rock Paper Scissors handshake)

I am not sure how you said it, so I might be wrong, but when you do a successful cold read you want to come across as if you knew all along and not that you took a guess so no more Reallys, also I would advise not to do any high fives, or ( cant think of the word) high movement handshakes, fist bumps because those are the kinds of things she relates to doing with her guy friends not a sexy man she is awestruck by.

Also through several instances of this conversation you comment on her eyes as if you are awestruck by them, compliments are great but you want to use them sparingly. Depending on how beautiful the girl is, you will want to use different types of compliments, if she is stunning you want to compliment her knowledge, passion of a particular thing, fashion, etc. along those lines. If she is average compliment on her looks. If you have to compliment on her looks at least use a push pull, pull push.

Example;
You: You eyes are mesmerizing, shame I wont see them everyday.

Me: "Awesome.. I'm usually a much better talker than this!"
Her: "Oh no, you're fine!"

For now on if you are reading this comment, never ever say anything like this again. First of all, you are not a burden you are giving value just by being there talking to her, you are awesome, you can do things already that most men wished they had the courage to do, so don' do this. Second, notice her comment, she is now taking care of your emotions which is an attraction killer.

Haha, do you think you could give me a hug to make me feel more at ease around you?"

She is the one who needs a hug, she was nervous when you walked up to her from your amazing presence, dont switch the roles.

So we hugged, and I was off to start a new conversation.

For now on at least when you get a number, try to place it in the middle of your conversation, not at the end because it makes it seem like you only went up to her to get her number and not to see if she met your standards. Doing it in the middle and then continuing conversation and then saying you have to leave makes it seem like you decided you like her enough, she seems cool, its no big deal so you ask for her number, even better you set up a date. Also, all the other guys ask at the end so it makes you and the interaction unique which is intriguing.

The interaction with women #1, when you compliment like crazy like that it makes it seem like you want something from her, your only there to take, not to give, so while she needs to know what you want(you open directly or up the sexual vibe) she still wants a little intrigue.

Her: "Actually.. I'm kinda here with my boyfriend.."
Me: "Oh shit.. Okay, I wouldn't want to get you in trouble or anything, so I'll shut up.. *laugh*"

No brother, you will not shut up, you will say as you please also something happened to me last week when I was at the store

Her: I;m here with my boyfriend
Me: Hmm, good point, he might see us, come on, lets go over there,( I point in the direction to a different aisle, she giggles then I take her hand, while walking shes skipping along gladly
Her: (still giggling)
Me: Lets meet up and grab a bite sometime, whats your schedule?
Hergiggling) I cant I said I have a boyfriend
Mechuckling at her silliness) Oh yea sure he can come to, NOT.So anyway( I pull out my phone assuming she will give her contact info, enter her name then hand her it for her to enter her number)
Her:Oh my god( still giggling, while she enters her number, then a few days later we treated each other to a great afternoon)

Point of me typing that is that at that specific moment when she is telling you her boyfriend is around, you can frame it as her bringing up a potential problem that you guys solve together, or you can ignore her comment, act like it doesn't faze you and proceed normally.

Women #2

Her: "Meet up... In what sort of way?"
Me: "What do you mean?"

Yea this can happen, when you are younger and they are older they will always try to take control of the conversation and where it directs to, most likely she wanted you to clarify then dismiss, so you have to take control

Her: "Meet up... In what sort of way?"
You: Lets not negotiate like its a contract, we'll talk and enjoy eachothers company, life is short and dull and we should not squander the chances we have for enjoyment. (warm smile)

This can have a polarising effect though, some older women will not like this, some will be amused and go along with it to see what happens, and some will love it, last two are good enough.

Her: "*laughs* Plus I'm way older than you!"

When she says things like this act like you are assuming she is worried about her age, and then you can reassure her that age is not a problem for you, also Chase has a good one where he teases her about retiring
https://www.girlschase.com/content/younger-men-and-older-women

Also since your young enough for women to think they are to old for you, you can take that screening question they all use "You seem pretty young, how old are you" and give to them first, now the roles are switched! At first, it might seem counter intuitive, you are highlighting differences after all which builds gaps and weakens a connection, but in this case you are now in control of the interaction which shows dominance, a trait that many older women appreciate but many young men do not have. So when you are early in your interaction with an older women ask this first before she asks you, I have used this and I was still able to pickup the older variety.

Her: "Haha, you're free to come in and talk anytime you want, but I'm not going to prance around the city with you. Sorry!"

Ahh that sucks, I am turning nineteen soon so I know when older women act patronizing, with this comment we can see that she does not take you seriously, you can offset this by getting a deeper voice, facial hair, if you have chest hair open a few buttons on your shirt so it peeks out a little, getting muscles, doing facial exercises to take away the baby fat from your face, acting chill and calm and being well versed in many things, and height(if you are tall).I have done all these things and let me tell you, they help out a lot! Many older women assume I am at least in my early, mid twenties or just don't care! So if you want to pickup women at a young age, these would be a good investment.

Me: "Haha, who's the lucky guy?"

Never bring attention to the boyfriend/husband, many times you will find that women wont either because the interaction is about you and her, not anyone else.

I could have talked to this girl for hours... Unfortunately it was time for them to close, and I had to tell the manager I would be out in just a few minutes

Yea that sucks to, another reason to ask in middle of interaction, also with her last comment she was trying taking care of your emotions but she just comes off as patronizing, that will all go away if you stick with this though, and assuming from your attitude you will.

Anyway I might have come across as over critical but like I said in the grand scheme these are small things and if you are still dealing with other stuff don't worry about most of these. Also its alright to do some things to a style that you like, so you can ignore some stuff but just to note stuff like over complimenting can across charming but not sexy so if you continue with the over complimenting but have tight fundamentals girls will place you in the boyfriend/husband category which can hurt your quick pickups.

Cheers and much success,
Nick

Edit: Shit I am not sure why there is that huge quote box there, I am not to internet savvy but tried fixing anyway to no avail.

 

[AsianPersuasion]

No such thing as too critical Captain! I'm still learning and not afraid to experiment, so every detail counts.

That phrase, "Lets not negotiate like its a contract.. life is dull and short"... I can't believe I haven't used that yet! I heard something similar from a scene in Vicky Cristina Barcelona, but for some reason it didn't come out when I was learning pick up. I'll definitely need to think of this more, and I'll probably use it at some point during my date today.

Thanks for the framing tips too! I'll begin to implement everything as soon as I get the chance to go out for pick up again.