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Some of the titles of the posts I made lately may look a bit like scientific research or pseudo-scientific articles. This is not at all my goal but I truly find this to be the best way of formulating my findings. And I definitely post my observations only after having heavily seen such an "event" occur accross many, many, many girls to be able consider it as a general phenomenon.
So in my latest post, I shared interesting insight on the influencing factors that will make you get a response after a girl gave you her number (from cold approach this is, very important detail), because the more time it takes you to follow up to the conversation, the more time the girl has to get cold in the process and for the interaction to get ackward, something Chase also mentioned regarding my previous post: https://www.skilledseducer.com/thre...et-girls-no-prior-exposure.31556/#post-201348
Today, however, I wanted to look at another metric, directly linked to your chances of success, i.e you getting her to see the girl again or not, yet not linked to your attractiveness or to your value as a man. It is in fact a key factor that will determine your success and is a mistake that may cause you trouble despite being a man of value.
As mentioned in my previous post, these findings have been observed after cold-approaching more than 40 girls in total, whom I approached whilst i was living in Paris and ile de France region (because people from different places behave differently so I wanted to specify this) and I observed this to be a consistent phenomenon occuring accross the board, in that area at least, I cannot go to other parts of the world and test it there as I am bound to this part of the world, for now at least.
So let's get straight to the actual findings;
I noticed that for all girls that had given me their numbers or agreed to meet again, I have at least had a 4-5 minute conversation with them whereas for girls with whom I have spoken for only 2-3 minutes or less, none of them gave me their numbers.
Until I gathered the data I am discussing in this post, speaking with these more than 40 girls (from this specific cold approaching experiment I did), I thought that the girl's attraction and your perceived value as a man was the only metric that determined whether the girl would agree to getting to know you.
I thought in this way despite having had a plethora of girls in my life throughout the years, and in no way being illeterate to understanding women and you may also be thinking in the same way as I dida only a few months ago...
In fact, I have been active on this forum years ago (back in 2019) before my life got extremely hard and I had to focus on survival rather than on girls and that was the case for a rather long time, until I managed to get my head out of the water again and get myself out of poverty and into a life with stable foundations. Back in 2019, I managed to get myself as my girlfriend a girl who was selected for the miss competition of my country. She was the finalist of the competition for her province, and participated in the country's final competition. Needless to say that I have enough experience, and I am by no means lost when it comes to knowledge, skill or understanding of girls' functioning, and driving forces. This is why this discovery may be crucial for many of you as well.
Until I discovered this "practical phenomenon", I seriously thought that the only reason of success with the feminine would be a man's value, a man's displayed value to be exact (judged on directly visible qualities and exhibited behaviors and traits), and nothing else.
Therefore I have always considered that a bolder approach (albeit civilized and socially calibrated) would be the best way of coming accross when trying to get a girl. That going all in in the boldest manner would be the best way of handling an approach. I have actually always had a certain respect for boldness myself and considered that a female would think in the exact same way and that bolder, more direct was always better as it was a masculine quality.
So fast forward to 2025/now, as I somewhat managed to get out of the survival and "poverty escape foundations building" stage of my life, I decided to get back in the game and started approaching the girls that were of my liking (note that this is cold approach in every case and that I had no prior contact with any of these girls).
My approach was the following; first I would find any reason to approach, it did not really matter what the reason was but as long as it was socially calibrated enough, I would use it. The first goal was mainly to stop the girl (if she was walking or moving) and ask her if she was from around here and if she spoke the local language and then I went on to ask if a specific location (random place in the city/metropolitan area) was close enough and how I could go there/walk there.
Then either I outright cut her at some point in the conversation/expanation of directions (if she was explaining where to go in detail), and told her outright that I was actually "...just looking for a reason to speak to her as I found her very interesting/cute and that I just asked for directions as a good reason to speak to her without scaring her off by asking this directly as she may not feel safe with a unknown man approaching her on the street with this goal, not to freak her out so to speak...", the other approach was to actually play dumb and lost and wait until I am done listening to the whole explanation of directions, then just tell her that I ended up having another "unplaned question" after listening to her explanation which was the "desire to get to know her as I found her to be quite wonderful". I used both approaches at a about 50/50, if the girl was more social and confortable, I cut her off and told her the truth outright, and if she was younger or felt less confortable and looked like she believed with all her being that I really was somewhat lost and needed to go somewhere, then I just waited for her to finish her explanation to not freak her out. I really used both and adapted my approach to the best of my ability for it to be as socially calibrated as possible.
What I noticed however was that the usual response I would get upon asking in this manner was that the girl would, ironically, have a boyfriend. I wouln't say that this was a shit test though and I cannot say for sure (it all depended on the approach as every approach was unique and different), but given the facial expressions of most of the girls, I would almost certainly say that it was either an excuse to safely refuse without putting herself at risk and without hurting my feelings (this was also often the case when the girl just felt too shocked and didn't expect it), or, more often than not the girl actually had a boyfriend. What's also important to note is that in the country in which I was doing this, about 50% of all girls are "in a couple" meaning they are taken (according to alleged local statistics) and given that I only approached the best ones, it may indeed be that a large percentage of them were actually taken, some of them in serious relationships.
As much as I love girls and as much as I like to get them for myself, I am a person of morals and I wouldn't resort to low level behaviors. Therefore, when a girl tells me she is taken, I do not pursue her, simply out of having morals, respect, to not try to break someone's home and relationship. That being said, after having gotten this reply to my face so many times, I did realize that although some girls may have indeed been taken, some of them may have lied also, for various reasons that is, (I started having such a doubt at least) and so I decided that it may be necessary to insist more and try to force my way through (if the girl felt conforable and safe talking to me at least, as a small number of them weren't).
So I started asking if it was "a serious relationship", "if it's been a long time they've been together" or just outright asking her if that was her final answer because she wouldn't see me again and may regret it later (some girls I met in this manner later told me that they would have otherwise regretted it had they not given me their numbers at the time).
One girl for instance told me that "she was already speaking with someone" and as I insisted and asked her if she was sure about that, she told me she was good and fine with that guy but thanked me for the proposal, so in my opinion there is limited room to push through anyway unless you want to push at all cost and just be outright immoral. Usually after hearing that kind of answer, I just told the girl "well … your boyfriend definitely has good taste, it's a pity he got there first...", then I wished her all the best and left. Of course every approach was unique, some girls were scared, some had a good conversation with me, some I messed up by not insisting more as I was too tired on my way home, one was on her way to a data and I didn't think about giving her my contact in case her date "didn't go well"... all in all I would say that one in about 5-6 girls gave me her contact information. That was still much less than 50% as stated by the alleged statistic.
As I did this approach more and more, I started to ask more and more directly as I thought that the root of the problem lied in potential lack of boldness (that I didn't show enough boldness, directness and masculine quality for the girl to become interested in the first few minutes of seeing me) or that it simply was a numbers game and that I needed to hit upon the right one as many girls did give me their numbers, it was just not 50% but about one in 4 or one in 7.
So to the extent possible, when I saw that the girl was rather confident or when it was later in the day, by the evening and I saw that the girl was all dressed up to go out, I started using an even more direct approach and as soon as I managed to stop the prospect girl, I just told her right away that I found her to be wonderful and that I usually had "good intuition with people" so I felt the need to stop her to speak with her as she drew me in and asked her if getting to know her was possible…
The results of my experiment shocked me, without exageration, as unlike I would have imagined, more boldness and directness did not improve my results. In fact, it was not the boldest approaches that yielded the best results, there seems to be another factor which is decisive in determining success:
In fact, looking at it after the fact, I can say that in most conversations that lasted over 5 minutes, where it took some time to speak about random things before asking to get to know the girl, she oftentimes gave me her number. As for interactions where I reavealed my interest and desire for her in the first few moments, in the approaches that were the boldest where I did not even pretend anything else excpet approaching due to "man-woman interest", in most cases the girl would end up "having a boyfriend" (which was the go to phrase that at least 25 girls used, the rest being "not liking men", Following islam and not speaking to men on the street and out of more than 40 girls I think only 3 said outright that they weren't interested) so mainly they all said they had boyfriends and the rest gave me their numbers (still less than 1/4 of all girls approached).
Now you may say that this statistic is skewed: because it would be obvious that a conversation with a girl who's interested would last longer than 5 minutes, unless she is in a hurry, you would walk together and talk a bit longer… and that would make sense, that in all instances where the girls were interested, the conversation would last longer and the girl would give you her contact information, and in all instances where the girl was not interested, the conversation wouldn't last so long.
And I would agree, but having done this for some time, I think I need to bring up another statistic from approaching girls over the years...
As I said in the beginning of this post, I have been doing this since 17 and simply had to stay away from cold approach for a few years but I used to approach girls years ago nonetheless, and there is one crucial difference separating the 2 experiences: Back in the days when I was younger and until this current year, my approach was never as bold and direct as it was now…
Back in the days, I avoided telling the girl upfront that I liked her and that I wanted her contact information with the goal of organizing a date or something of the sort. I would rather focus on keeping the conversation going and then simply ask her for her number or contact information. I may have even given the girl compliments about her looks, behavior or personality but I never said upfront that I was interested and that my goal was to get to know the girl, invite her on a date,...
Despite being less developped and of lower value than I am now and having only improved over the years, I was less developed both physically,mentally and financially (although arguibly I was younger so for my age of 17 years old at the time I was still at the top), but despite this, I got a much higher success rate than in this experiment of the 40+ girls I approached and whom I asked in a much bolder way to "give me their contacts as I wanted to see them again". Like I sincerely think that most of these girls who told me that they had boyfriends would have just handed me their contact inforation without any problems back in college and I wouldn't have even needed to specify the reason why I needed her number, messenger or WhatsApp or whatever, unless the girl would have wanted me to say it explicity (as in a shit test).
To be clear, I am not trying to defend any sort of nihilistic ideas that a weak or very hurt person would have stating that "you should not reveal your interest/desire to girls" or anything of the sort. The case here seems to be, and this is what this is all about; that hard closing girls you barely know is not at all the best approach (even though it can work sometimes)… and that focusing on making the girl laugh, deep diving, talking about her and breaking the touch barrier before asking to see her again/ asking for her contact information (without explicitely specifying the reason why) would be a much better approach, and would give you greater perentage of success in getting compliance and making anything happen between you and her.
Anyway, these are the findings I uncovered, if somebody could confirm or infirm my data on peronal experience, I would really appreciate it and if someone has a thought or an idea on why this is the case, that just asking explicitely to get to know her upfront leads to much worse results than a more indirect approach, it would be good to know (after all, a bolder and more direct approach should yield better results than dragging the conversation on and beating around the bush). Maybe Chase or some older members have noticed this too and have cracked this mystery. I really hope that we can get a sensible interpretation.
It really seems to me that girls put up a wall when they are asked upfront about you getting to know them. At least that is what I saw in my experiment, maybe they directly think that my goal is to sleep with them or maybe there is some other reason but this seems to be a general rule.
A friend also showed me all these people on instagram cold approaching women in the most ridiculous manners asking for their numbers right away, and making people think that going all in is going to be better than any other approach when in reality this seems not to be the case exactly...
After being done writing this post, I notice that another more important question stems out of this: Given that stating your interest explicitely in the boldest most direct manner is not as good as being "semi-direct", what kind of approach would be best to still show direct interest and show bold and masculine intent yet not"scare the girl off" (or whatever phenomenon I encountered in this experiment) ?
Indeed it is surprising to me that the approach where I actually acted lost and waited to listen to the explanations gave better results than going in there directly, telling the girl I like her... this profoundly shocked me in a way
So if you made it this far into my post, maybe you can now help me solve this feminine riddle...
PS:
There seems to be a reversal to this rule though... it is important to note that this data only applies to girls [of rather good looks] approached at daytime (DAY-GAME). This rule most likely wouldn't apply to night game where most girls are already looking for male attention. In that scenario pushing through at all cost and being as bold as possible would probably yield the best results. The main issue being managing competition and demonstrating more value than the other men.
All of that being said, culture most likely also plays a role here as this data has been gathered in a specific area and among the girls who gave me their contact details, one stood out that didn't at all seem to have been phased out by the directness of my request and as soon as I told her that I was interested and liked her, she almost led the whole interaction and seemingly helped me get what I wanted (her), that girl wasn't particularly bad looking, I'd say that overall she was a 7+ but she was the only one among all these girls to be from and have lived a few years in North America, New jersey if I'm not mistaken. Also, girls from latin america seemed more open to give me their numbers from such a direct approach, though language proximity may have played a role here as I put serious effort in trying to speak spanish with them and almost each of them agreed to help me learn the language.
I also uncovered another law from these 40 approaches I did which is linked to the time it takes you to first text a girl (break the ice as it is called apparently) after the first encounter and your chances of seeing her again and advancing this interaction somewhere. I covered it in another post here:
www.skilledseducer.com
In any case, I look forward to hearing your thoughts and experiences on this matter. I will later post a few reports sharing actual approaches of mine, though it will be to share it mainly as I do not struggle with girls past the moment of getting the number and getting her first reply, the rest is history after that in almost all cases.
Best
Some of the titles of the posts I made lately may look a bit like scientific research or pseudo-scientific articles. This is not at all my goal but I truly find this to be the best way of formulating my findings. And I definitely post my observations only after having heavily seen such an "event" occur accross many, many, many girls to be able consider it as a general phenomenon.
So in my latest post, I shared interesting insight on the influencing factors that will make you get a response after a girl gave you her number (from cold approach this is, very important detail), because the more time it takes you to follow up to the conversation, the more time the girl has to get cold in the process and for the interaction to get ackward, something Chase also mentioned regarding my previous post: https://www.skilledseducer.com/thre...et-girls-no-prior-exposure.31556/#post-201348
Today, however, I wanted to look at another metric, directly linked to your chances of success, i.e you getting her to see the girl again or not, yet not linked to your attractiveness or to your value as a man. It is in fact a key factor that will determine your success and is a mistake that may cause you trouble despite being a man of value.
As mentioned in my previous post, these findings have been observed after cold-approaching more than 40 girls in total, whom I approached whilst i was living in Paris and ile de France region (because people from different places behave differently so I wanted to specify this) and I observed this to be a consistent phenomenon occuring accross the board, in that area at least, I cannot go to other parts of the world and test it there as I am bound to this part of the world, for now at least.
So let's get straight to the actual findings;
So what I noticed was that, [all other metrics being equal/in your favor], the more calm and neutral and the longer your initial conversation with the "approached" girl lasted, the more is the linkelyhood of this girl giving you her number or other kinds of contact information and being ready to give you a chance of seeing you again…
Note that I am not necessarily speaking about there being attraction or not here, this is slightly more specific, I am speaking about the likelyhood of a girl whom you do not know and whom you approach for the first time to agree to seeing you again with the goal of having a "man-woman" interaction.
I noticed that for all girls that had given me their numbers or agreed to meet again, I have at least had a 4-5 minute conversation with them whereas for girls with whom I have spoken for only 2-3 minutes or less, none of them gave me their numbers.
Until I gathered the data I am discussing in this post, speaking with these more than 40 girls (from this specific cold approaching experiment I did), I thought that the girl's attraction and your perceived value as a man was the only metric that determined whether the girl would agree to getting to know you.
I thought in this way despite having had a plethora of girls in my life throughout the years, and in no way being illeterate to understanding women and you may also be thinking in the same way as I dida only a few months ago...
In fact, I have been active on this forum years ago (back in 2019) before my life got extremely hard and I had to focus on survival rather than on girls and that was the case for a rather long time, until I managed to get my head out of the water again and get myself out of poverty and into a life with stable foundations. Back in 2019, I managed to get myself as my girlfriend a girl who was selected for the miss competition of my country. She was the finalist of the competition for her province, and participated in the country's final competition. Needless to say that I have enough experience, and I am by no means lost when it comes to knowledge, skill or understanding of girls' functioning, and driving forces. This is why this discovery may be crucial for many of you as well.
Until I discovered this "practical phenomenon", I seriously thought that the only reason of success with the feminine would be a man's value, a man's displayed value to be exact (judged on directly visible qualities and exhibited behaviors and traits), and nothing else.
Therefore I have always considered that a bolder approach (albeit civilized and socially calibrated) would be the best way of coming accross when trying to get a girl. That going all in in the boldest manner would be the best way of handling an approach. I have actually always had a certain respect for boldness myself and considered that a female would think in the exact same way and that bolder, more direct was always better as it was a masculine quality.
So fast forward to 2025/now, as I somewhat managed to get out of the survival and "poverty escape foundations building" stage of my life, I decided to get back in the game and started approaching the girls that were of my liking (note that this is cold approach in every case and that I had no prior contact with any of these girls).
My approach was the following; first I would find any reason to approach, it did not really matter what the reason was but as long as it was socially calibrated enough, I would use it. The first goal was mainly to stop the girl (if she was walking or moving) and ask her if she was from around here and if she spoke the local language and then I went on to ask if a specific location (random place in the city/metropolitan area) was close enough and how I could go there/walk there.
Then either I outright cut her at some point in the conversation/expanation of directions (if she was explaining where to go in detail), and told her outright that I was actually "...just looking for a reason to speak to her as I found her very interesting/cute and that I just asked for directions as a good reason to speak to her without scaring her off by asking this directly as she may not feel safe with a unknown man approaching her on the street with this goal, not to freak her out so to speak...", the other approach was to actually play dumb and lost and wait until I am done listening to the whole explanation of directions, then just tell her that I ended up having another "unplaned question" after listening to her explanation which was the "desire to get to know her as I found her to be quite wonderful". I used both approaches at a about 50/50, if the girl was more social and confortable, I cut her off and told her the truth outright, and if she was younger or felt less confortable and looked like she believed with all her being that I really was somewhat lost and needed to go somewhere, then I just waited for her to finish her explanation to not freak her out. I really used both and adapted my approach to the best of my ability for it to be as socially calibrated as possible.
What I noticed however was that the usual response I would get upon asking in this manner was that the girl would, ironically, have a boyfriend. I wouln't say that this was a shit test though and I cannot say for sure (it all depended on the approach as every approach was unique and different), but given the facial expressions of most of the girls, I would almost certainly say that it was either an excuse to safely refuse without putting herself at risk and without hurting my feelings (this was also often the case when the girl just felt too shocked and didn't expect it), or, more often than not the girl actually had a boyfriend. What's also important to note is that in the country in which I was doing this, about 50% of all girls are "in a couple" meaning they are taken (according to alleged local statistics) and given that I only approached the best ones, it may indeed be that a large percentage of them were actually taken, some of them in serious relationships.
As much as I love girls and as much as I like to get them for myself, I am a person of morals and I wouldn't resort to low level behaviors. Therefore, when a girl tells me she is taken, I do not pursue her, simply out of having morals, respect, to not try to break someone's home and relationship. That being said, after having gotten this reply to my face so many times, I did realize that although some girls may have indeed been taken, some of them may have lied also, for various reasons that is, (I started having such a doubt at least) and so I decided that it may be necessary to insist more and try to force my way through (if the girl felt conforable and safe talking to me at least, as a small number of them weren't).
So I started asking if it was "a serious relationship", "if it's been a long time they've been together" or just outright asking her if that was her final answer because she wouldn't see me again and may regret it later (some girls I met in this manner later told me that they would have otherwise regretted it had they not given me their numbers at the time).
One girl for instance told me that "she was already speaking with someone" and as I insisted and asked her if she was sure about that, she told me she was good and fine with that guy but thanked me for the proposal, so in my opinion there is limited room to push through anyway unless you want to push at all cost and just be outright immoral. Usually after hearing that kind of answer, I just told the girl "well … your boyfriend definitely has good taste, it's a pity he got there first...", then I wished her all the best and left. Of course every approach was unique, some girls were scared, some had a good conversation with me, some I messed up by not insisting more as I was too tired on my way home, one was on her way to a data and I didn't think about giving her my contact in case her date "didn't go well"... all in all I would say that one in about 5-6 girls gave me her contact information. That was still much less than 50% as stated by the alleged statistic.
As I did this approach more and more, I started to ask more and more directly as I thought that the root of the problem lied in potential lack of boldness (that I didn't show enough boldness, directness and masculine quality for the girl to become interested in the first few minutes of seeing me) or that it simply was a numbers game and that I needed to hit upon the right one as many girls did give me their numbers, it was just not 50% but about one in 4 or one in 7.
So to the extent possible, when I saw that the girl was rather confident or when it was later in the day, by the evening and I saw that the girl was all dressed up to go out, I started using an even more direct approach and as soon as I managed to stop the prospect girl, I just told her right away that I found her to be wonderful and that I usually had "good intuition with people" so I felt the need to stop her to speak with her as she drew me in and asked her if getting to know her was possible…
The results of my experiment shocked me, without exageration, as unlike I would have imagined, more boldness and directness did not improve my results. In fact, it was not the boldest approaches that yielded the best results, there seems to be another factor which is decisive in determining success:
It was the interactions that lasted the longest time that yielded the best results, those were the situations where the girl gave me her number or contact information the most.
In fact, looking at it after the fact, I can say that in most conversations that lasted over 5 minutes, where it took some time to speak about random things before asking to get to know the girl, she oftentimes gave me her number. As for interactions where I reavealed my interest and desire for her in the first few moments, in the approaches that were the boldest where I did not even pretend anything else excpet approaching due to "man-woman interest", in most cases the girl would end up "having a boyfriend" (which was the go to phrase that at least 25 girls used, the rest being "not liking men", Following islam and not speaking to men on the street and out of more than 40 girls I think only 3 said outright that they weren't interested) so mainly they all said they had boyfriends and the rest gave me their numbers (still less than 1/4 of all girls approached).
Now you may say that this statistic is skewed: because it would be obvious that a conversation with a girl who's interested would last longer than 5 minutes, unless she is in a hurry, you would walk together and talk a bit longer… and that would make sense, that in all instances where the girls were interested, the conversation would last longer and the girl would give you her contact information, and in all instances where the girl was not interested, the conversation wouldn't last so long.
And I would agree, but having done this for some time, I think I need to bring up another statistic from approaching girls over the years...
As I said in the beginning of this post, I have been doing this since 17 and simply had to stay away from cold approach for a few years but I used to approach girls years ago nonetheless, and there is one crucial difference separating the 2 experiences: Back in the days when I was younger and until this current year, my approach was never as bold and direct as it was now…
Back in the days, I avoided telling the girl upfront that I liked her and that I wanted her contact information with the goal of organizing a date or something of the sort. I would rather focus on keeping the conversation going and then simply ask her for her number or contact information. I may have even given the girl compliments about her looks, behavior or personality but I never said upfront that I was interested and that my goal was to get to know the girl, invite her on a date,...
Despite being less developped and of lower value than I am now and having only improved over the years, I was less developed both physically,mentally and financially (although arguibly I was younger so for my age of 17 years old at the time I was still at the top), but despite this, I got a much higher success rate than in this experiment of the 40+ girls I approached and whom I asked in a much bolder way to "give me their contacts as I wanted to see them again". Like I sincerely think that most of these girls who told me that they had boyfriends would have just handed me their contact inforation without any problems back in college and I wouldn't have even needed to specify the reason why I needed her number, messenger or WhatsApp or whatever, unless the girl would have wanted me to say it explicity (as in a shit test).
To be clear, I am not trying to defend any sort of nihilistic ideas that a weak or very hurt person would have stating that "you should not reveal your interest/desire to girls" or anything of the sort. The case here seems to be, and this is what this is all about; that hard closing girls you barely know is not at all the best approach (even though it can work sometimes)… and that focusing on making the girl laugh, deep diving, talking about her and breaking the touch barrier before asking to see her again/ asking for her contact information (without explicitely specifying the reason why) would be a much better approach, and would give you greater perentage of success in getting compliance and making anything happen between you and her.
Anyway, these are the findings I uncovered, if somebody could confirm or infirm my data on peronal experience, I would really appreciate it and if someone has a thought or an idea on why this is the case, that just asking explicitely to get to know her upfront leads to much worse results than a more indirect approach, it would be good to know (after all, a bolder and more direct approach should yield better results than dragging the conversation on and beating around the bush). Maybe Chase or some older members have noticed this too and have cracked this mystery. I really hope that we can get a sensible interpretation.
It really seems to me that girls put up a wall when they are asked upfront about you getting to know them. At least that is what I saw in my experiment, maybe they directly think that my goal is to sleep with them or maybe there is some other reason but this seems to be a general rule.
A friend also showed me all these people on instagram cold approaching women in the most ridiculous manners asking for their numbers right away, and making people think that going all in is going to be better than any other approach when in reality this seems not to be the case exactly...
After being done writing this post, I notice that another more important question stems out of this: Given that stating your interest explicitely in the boldest most direct manner is not as good as being "semi-direct", what kind of approach would be best to still show direct interest and show bold and masculine intent yet not"scare the girl off" (or whatever phenomenon I encountered in this experiment) ?
Indeed it is surprising to me that the approach where I actually acted lost and waited to listen to the explanations gave better results than going in there directly, telling the girl I like her... this profoundly shocked me in a way
So if you made it this far into my post, maybe you can now help me solve this feminine riddle...
PS:
There seems to be a reversal to this rule though... it is important to note that this data only applies to girls [of rather good looks] approached at daytime (DAY-GAME). This rule most likely wouldn't apply to night game where most girls are already looking for male attention. In that scenario pushing through at all cost and being as bold as possible would probably yield the best results. The main issue being managing competition and demonstrating more value than the other men.
All of that being said, culture most likely also plays a role here as this data has been gathered in a specific area and among the girls who gave me their contact details, one stood out that didn't at all seem to have been phased out by the directness of my request and as soon as I told her that I was interested and liked her, she almost led the whole interaction and seemingly helped me get what I wanted (her), that girl wasn't particularly bad looking, I'd say that overall she was a 7+ but she was the only one among all these girls to be from and have lived a few years in North America, New jersey if I'm not mistaken. Also, girls from latin america seemed more open to give me their numbers from such a direct approach, though language proximity may have played a role here as I put serious effort in trying to speak spanish with them and almost each of them agreed to help me learn the language.
I also uncovered another law from these 40 approaches I did which is linked to the time it takes you to first text a girl (break the ice as it is called apparently) after the first encounter and your chances of seeing her again and advancing this interaction somewhere. I covered it in another post here:
Correlation between the time it takes you to respond or send the first message and auto-rejection for first time meet girls (no prior exposure)
Edit: Due to this account being new and having lost access to my previous account years ago, I noticed that I cannot publish posts this thread in the advanced section where it should most likely belong, due to the type of this content. If some administrator of this platform could move it to...
In any case, I look forward to hearing your thoughts and experiences on this matter. I will later post a few reports sharing actual approaches of mine, though it will be to share it mainly as I do not struggle with girls past the moment of getting the number and getting her first reply, the rest is history after that in almost all cases.
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