LR Crazy Chick?

[Bboy100]

Background:
So the first thing I should mention is that I've been on a no fap/no porn diet for the past 4 days (trying to last at least one month). So I was fucking horny. My dick tingles all day cause it wants attention. Tbh, I'm literally willing to run into brick walls to get laid if I have to. This had a tremendous effect on the date. I was literally so horny and excited at the opportunity to get my dick wet that I didn't have the ability to be nervous.

Also, I was in Seattle for today, so I was with my parents. I didn't have logistics to pull girls home.

The Report:

I matched with this girl on Tinder. She's 30. Also, she was Asian and all her texts had hella bad grammer. So I assumed she was in the states on a business trip. I ask her out on the second message. She says she's down to meet me when she gets off work. We exchanged numbers. At around 10:30 PM, she asks me to meet up.

..This is where it gets sketchy:
Her: Want to meet tonight?
Her: Where are you now?
Me: I'm in Redmond. Wbu?
Her: I'm in Issaquah
Her: We stay in the car and talk <---Wtf??
Her: Do you want to drive to Issaquah?
Her: Hilton in Issaquah or you want to meet in between
Her: Somewhere
Me: The Hilton hotel?
Me: Yeah, sure, I can meet you there
Her: Sounds good! I'mm off now. I will wait for you.
Her: Text me when you get here.

So at this point, I kind of assumed she meant we were going to be in a hotel room. ...Nope. Turns out the thing about "talking in her car" was for real.
When I got there, she literally picked me up in her car and drove me to a different parking lot. Getting in a random car with someone I've never met who frankly seems kinda sketchy is not something I would normally do. ...But like I said, I was hornier than a teenager looking at pronz for the first time, so Idgaf.

As it turned out she worked at the hotel and she wasn't allowed to park there nor use their rooms. I asked her where she's staying. She says she's in Rention (different city). I asked her if she lives with other people, and she said yes. I didn't question this further.

Looking to avoid making the same mistake as the one from my FU earlier this week, I decided to slow down and actually pay attention to her body launguage. I chatted with her for a while. Probably 10-15 mins. At this point, she was leaning in, stroking her hair, staring at me like a kid in a candy store. So I kissed her. We start making out. But we're still in the front seat. Eventually she asks me if I want to go to the back. I oblige.

I escalate to sex with no resistance. As soon as she saw my dick, she had a look of shock on her face.
Her: It's soo big!
Her: What am I supposed to do with this?

It was literally like a porn movie. Except that instead of bad acting, she looked genuinely shocked. LOL. For the rest of our time together, she would literally not stop talking about "how handsome I am" and "How big my dick is". Tbh, I was half expecting that she was prostitute or some shit and she expected me to pay her at the end. LOL.
I've had other girls note how big my dick is. But none of them have ever had an expression of pure shock. haha

In any case, after we started fucking, I came in 4 seconds flat! #NoFap haha
As I was cumming, I moved her off me to "get a condom". And somehow, I also retained a boner even after ejaculation. So she literally didn't even know I came! LOL

After I put the condom on, it was game time. For some reason, I can never cum when I'm wearing one. So we literally fucked for 60 mins straight. I lost count of how many times she orgasmed and how many times she told me "how good I am" and "How crazy I am" (not sure why she used the term "crazy" lol)

Finally, she says:
Her: Are you gonna cum?
Me: I can't cum with a condom on.
Her: Why not? Do you not feel anything?
Me: No, I do. I just can't cum for some reason
Her: Ok, then don't wear one. Cum inside of me. We should make babies <---She said this in a pretty neutral tone of voice. I literally wasn't sure if she was kidding.
Me: Woah, I know we're getting married and all, but I don't think I'm ready to have kids! <---This was callback humor to the original Tinder message I opened her with "Soo, now that we're a Tinder match, should we just go ahead and get married?"
Her: She laughed, and we keep fucking

After sex, we chatted for a while longer. She literally proposed to me...
Her: [In a very excited voice]Let's get married tomorrow
Me: Haha, I can't get married I'm too young.
Her: Oh c'mon.
Me: [Look of hesistancy...I didn't really know what to do or say.
Her: Haha, you know I'm just kidding right?
Me: Oh...no, I wasn't really sure haha. Sorry, I can be pretty terrible at sarcasm sometimes.

The thing is, I'm not sure if the "just kidding" line was real or not. Cause the rest of it sounded pretty serious. It was not said in a playful or humerous way at all. Plus, she was giving me that deep stare of someone who's completely smitten/in love with me.


Also, another separate but very interesting thread:

Her: Soo, there's something about me you don't know.
Me: Is that so?
Her: I have two kids.
Me: Oh, cool. Do they have a father?
Her: Yeah, but we're in the "process of getting divorced".

She seemed pretty open to talking about it, so I dig deeper. Basically, the gist of it is that they're actually still married, the husband doesn't even know she wants a divorce, and she's waiting for him to ask her for one first because she doesn't want to be the one to initiate it. She said she hasn't loved him for two full years, and she's only married to him still cause he doesn't realize this and because of the kids. <----This is a HUGE experience for me. Cause so far, I had never fucked a girl who was even in a relationship (that I knew of), let alone an married women. Seriously opened my eyes as to how right the whole "lover/provider" thing is. This is also the reason why we couldn't go to her place. Everything made a lot more sense to me now.

After a while, I eventually mention that we should go. She drives me back to my car, we kiss goodbye. Not gonna lie, the sex was really really hot. But this girl seems a little crazy to me. Not sure if I should continue seeing her. haha

 

[Paulie Walnuts]

This is a dope LR.

Nice job BBoy!

I don't get many matches on tinder, what's your angle on that?

 

[ray_zorse]

This report really made me smile! Haha! It's so refreshing to meet a woman who really knows what she wants and goes about getting it haha. And the validation that comes from those doe eyes when you know they're totally smitten... well it's addictive haha. But you need to be a little bit careful.

I'm not getting cluster-B vibes from your report, except to say that "love bombing"is a cluster-B tactic (read Dr Tara Palmatier's website for more information about this, I don't have a link handy although I posted one in relationships forum sometime back). Anyway I think it is totally safe to see this girl for FWB. But do be very careful because she is clearly going to try to beta-ize you bigtime. I suggest to read Seppuku's journal since a lot of women want his dick and some are pretty skilled at the beta-ization process. It's very hard to resist, believe me.

It may also be something to do with the fact she's Asian, Asian girls are very adept at the beta-ization process, I don't know why, perhaps it is in their culture? They come on so kittenish, so compliant haha... but they know what they want Where is she from anyway? China? Vietnam? It appears she is a US citizen (if she is married and has been living with hubby and family for 2+ years) so she probably isn't trying to get pregnant for visa reasons, but it's something to look out for in general.

Yeah well obviously you don't want to be setting up shop with this chick who is looking for a provider but not respecting the provider once she finds him. I suggest to read "Franco Seduction" (not the Franco from these boards) "Manual of Seduction", a resource that Seppuku put me onto. It's really great and discusses these kinds of issues in depth and how to be a boss when dealing with them.

As for me, well my game is quite connection-based and most (though not all) of my lays have been with girls that I really, really, liked. This makes it very difficult to resist the beta-ization process. l suggest that you learn from my mistakes.

Ray

Edit: As to your issue with the condom well it is definitely all mental, there is no reason why you can't come into a rubber, it's just that you think you can't and that's what's stopping you. Either that or the condom, you need an ultra-thin in an extra-large size (56mm or 58mm if your cock is really that big ) Based on experience with crap condoms purchased while travelling I used to believe I couldn't use a condom (most of my experience was in LTRs with girls back home who were on the pill), but that was bullshit, the right condoms are readily available in Aussie and they never break, so I believe that's probably only an issue with cheaper lower quality condoms. I also did not quite understand from your report if you came inside her the first time, if so then you need to re-evaluate and make it a hard rule to ALWAYS use a condom (girls hate it).

 

[Bboy100]

Trackrunner,

In addition to what we talked about over text, you should check this threads out: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11121
The 11th post on that thread is me talking about how to build a profile. I think that'll be a good start for you
But, you should check out the rest of the thread too. Cause I think everyone there has some really cool ideas.


Ray,

This report really made me smile! Haha! It's so refreshing to meet a woman who really knows what she wants and goes about getting it haha.

Forsure dude! This was the easiest & most fun seductions I've had. By far. I knew it was on the moment I matched her. Cause y'know...I don't think most 30 year old women on Tinder are matching 21 year old guys for anything other than sex.

dit: As to your issue with the condom well it is definitely all mental, there is no reason why you can't come into a rubber, it's just that you think you can't and that's what's stopping you. Either that or the condom, you need an ultra-thin in an extra-large size (56mm or 58mm if your cock is really that big ) Based on experience with crap condoms purchased while travelling I used to believe I couldn't use a condom (most of my experience was in LTRs with girls back home who were on the pill), but that was bullshit, the right condoms are readily available in Aussie and they never break, so I believe that's probably only an issue with cheaper lower quality condoms. I also did not quite understand from your report if you came inside her the first time, if so then you need to re-evaluate and make it a hard rule to ALWAYS use a condom (girls hate it).

Nooo, I definitely did not cum inside her the first time. As soon as I felt it coming, I pushed her off my dick and up my torso. So she was kinda sitting on my stomach for a moment. That way she didn't see that I was cumming and it didn't get inside of her. Rn my strategy with new girls is to fuck for a couple mins without a condom then say I "forgot" to put one on. Cause I've had girls give me resistance when I reached for the condom. I feel like this is is a great way to avoid that. Unfortunately, it kinda backfired cause of the nofap thing. lol

And yeah, I hear the condom thing is all mental too. Right now, I'm using a large Trojan ultra-thin condom. Not sure if they have those in Aussie haha. But yeah, I'll experiment with sizes and brands a little bit. See if that makes a difference.

But do be very careful because she is clearly going to try to beta-ize you bigtime. I suggest to read Seppuku's journal since a lot of women want his dick and some are pretty skilled at the beta-ization process. It's very hard to resist, believe me.

It may also be something to do with the fact she's Asian, Asian girls are very adept at the beta-ization process, I don't know why, perhaps it is in their culture? They come on so kittenish, so compliant haha... but they know what they want Where is she from anyway? China? Vietnam? It appears she is a US citizen (if she is married and has been living with hubby and family for 2+ years) so she probably isn't trying to get pregnant for visa reasons, but it's something to look out for in general.

She's from Cambodia and she's been living in the states for the past 14 years. So she's definitely not using me for legal purposes. I was actually really surprised at how bad her English was given how long she's been here. But my parents are kinda the same way. So I can totally understand that. Haha

Also, what is beta-ization?

 

[ray_zorse]

Beta-ization is the process by which she converts you from lover to provider, or even orbiter if she is skilled enough at it. I believe Seppuku may have coined the term, but the principle is well established in a lot of seduction material including GC and Franco Seduction. Do read it ALL women do this, it is an instinctive behaviour based on her reproductive needs and the conflicts arising therefrom -- on the one hand she needs a strong independent male who does what he wants, has lots of women wanting his cum, and kowtows to no-one, on the other hand she needs to be protected and provided for whilst vulnerable, pregnant and/or raising a child, and needs this strong independent male by her side, preferably in an exclusive arrangement, and teaching the male children to hunt and so forth. How successful she is in these conflicting goals depends on her skill at beta-ization and that's why I believe it is a trait that is strongly selected for. It starts with love bombing and establishing dependence (you get lazy and stop doing your own washing, cooking your own food, seeing your own friends) and mixed with this there will be plenty of compliance tests (I can't see, get me my sunglasses... or, I don't feel like Japanese tonight, we have to go somewhere else)... and increasing levels of drama, you're not allowed to drink in bars late at night with female colleagues etc... not to mention the normal boyfriend-ization moves such as, she hangs around your house knowing you are expecting your mother and "inadvertently" they cross over at the door and she has to be introduced (as your girlfriend)... or a similar process in reverse where she tricks you into a group date, or letting her post a selfie on Facebook (where you are annoyed to discover you have been tagged as her boyfriend)... or she causes drama when her parents are in town and emotionally blackmails you into meeting them while dishonestly assuring you she is "fine" with FWB. If you do not stomp on these behaviours the minute you encounter them, by punishing harshly with takeaways and your very real willingness to dump her, but at the same time acting calm and unruffled and defusing situations with humour and a strong frame rather than defensiveness and drama... she will get you eventually. Remember ALL women do this and they are biologically programmed to seek your weak points. Maintain your frame and independence at ALL times no matter what. Anyway, if you become beta-ized she loses attraction anyway, so there is never any advantage to giving in.
Ray

 

[Bboy100]

Ahh, I see. Sounds like this is what happened to this particular girl's husband haha. But yeah, that seems like an interesting concept. Although maybe a little circular (i.e. she finally finds a lover, only to intentionally turn him into a provider. Then what? She goes out and finds another lover. haha). In any case, this is definitely good to know. I'll give it a read. Thanks Ray!

 

[Bete Noire]

Man this lay report was great! I love how at ease you managed to appear even when in a stranger car - it takes some self-confidence, and horniness ofc

The idea of slowing down and checking her body language is somethin' i'll bear in mind, let them get comfortable

Thanks for giving us a look at the lifestyle ^^

- Rob