Curious Topic But Why do people want to get better with girls anyway?!

[Rookie]

Weird title I know and i think there was something about this posted somewhere else but for the life of me I can't find it.

Anyway I've been looking into reason's why people got into seduction in the first place and what the overall goal is when people want to be better with girls. My biggest question is why?

I mainly talking about self esteem and ego/emotional validation. I know that when I first got into seduction it was because i felt like i wasn't good enough as a man and i valued girls as a metric of my worth but is that even a healthy reason to start? Now i'm more looking at bettering myself for the enjoyment it brings me, from meeting a stranger you know nothing about, getting to know then, flirting and the pleasure of fucking someone you find attractive and most of all being able to.

But what are the differences between those to motivations? A "I want to get better with girls so i feel better about myself and cooler with each girl who likes me or sleeps with me (proving how awesome i am)" vs B "i feel good about myself already but it would be cool to be able to talk to girls, seduce them and have them in my life (with more consistency and confidence)."

Don't get me wrong, i'm not talking about being perfect as you are and then expecting with that sense of entitlement that you "deserve" attraction and girls (or even success elsewhere in life) but instead i'm asking what if your motivations to do better with girls comes from a deep feeling of inadequacy. How would those two journey's look like (A vs B).

P.s i guess the difference between having high self esteem but being aware that you could do better with girls and having low self esteem and using girls attraction to make yourself feel better.

Anyway, any thoughts or ideas would be really fun to hear.

Rookie

 

[Fluxcapacitor]

Sup ma dude! ya title got my interest and its a fascinating thought really!

A got into seduction cause im the worst natural going!! Have always been really good with girls when it came to attraction and when interactions went well, they went well but I was very inconsistent. Cause a was always attracting girls yah it built up this reputation that a always got girls and everything was good which added social pressure to do well and ma reputation also exceeded me cause at the best club in town everyone knew that a ended up with girls. A got that much resistance from the girls a met a had no idea how to turn it around yah? Everyone thought ma experience level was like 99 out of a hundred and truth, a had only been with 1 girl when a started seduction!!

A was very slow at escalating and was always a good guy and a definitely finished last yah!!! Couldn't figure out what was wrong with me in how a could be so good and meet and attract a lot of girls but how a couldn't convert. Ma text game seemed wack a got 2 - 3 numbers every week but half of them stopped messaging within 2 - 3 messages!! I realised that a wasn't setting up dates before hand yah?

Strangely a had a lot of self esteem cause of tha *reputation* and always attracting hot girls. A still have a lot of nice guy in me and when am with a girl a really like it comes out more than it should cause when a dont care everything falls into place yah? So am still learning to be a dick to the girls a really care about to keep consistent results!!

Am definitely from group B, but regardless A or B yah?? we all have different reasons to want to get better. Personally am just looking to better ma life in every way, self progression yah?

Using girls as a validation metric is possibly not a healthy reason cause ya will always fall short, but underlining that you felt like ya werent good enough and so stepped out to improve yaself! A have a mate who won't do that and hates that *he has to change* to meet someone. Ya can continue doing what ya doing but floating about praying for results hasnt got him anywhere at all but if he looked at improving himself he'd lose his resentment for girls which is repelling them yah?

Both these paths cross, but the journey is self discovery, self improvement, better understanding and of course getting a partner or multiple partners which is the only reason were here. Lets face it thats why we have this desire they have what we want and we have what they want. It happens in nature, and guess what, were animals as well!!