Date and Second Date strategies

[Witcher]

Hi
I was reading some of chase articles about how to strcutres the dates that aswered some of my questions but not all so her is my current interogations about the subject.

My current logistics are not the best now, so i can't go to sex into the first date. I should always go the informational date first.

In this type of date(informational) is it advised to go for the kiss as a "Short version of getting intimate" or not? So to just set the dynamic beetween me the girl so thing goes a lot faster and smoother in a second date or that should be exculisvely just a chilling out and connection?

Thx

 

[Franco]

Witcher,

I would probably go for the kiss, but you need to be very careful with how you kiss her. The kiss needs to be very passionate, but as soon as things start heating up a bit, you need to pull back and say something like, "so you said you had to go, right?" And then smile slyly as if you KNOW she wants you, but she can't have you at the moment. You need to make the kiss into a chase frame so that she goes, "damn, I thought I had him! But he isn't like all the other guys who just get as much as they can until I'm tired of it!"

It's tricky, but you should play with it until you find that it easily gets you second dates. =)

- Franco

 

[Marty]

It's tricky, but you should play with it until you find that it easily gets you second dates. =)

The good thing about this experimentation process is that it's fun =)

 

[Witcher]

Witcher,

I would probably go for the kiss, but you need to be very careful with how you kiss her. The kiss needs to be very passionate, but as soon as things start heating up a bit, you need to pull back and say something like, "so you said you had to go, right?" And then smile slyly as if you KNOW she wants you, but she can't have you at the moment. You need to make the kiss into a chase frame so that she goes, "damn, I thought I had him! But he isn't like all the other guys who just get as much as they can until I'm tired of it!"

It's tricky, but you should play with it until you find that it easily gets you second dates. =)

- Franco

Thx Franco Any good article or advice on how/where/when to go for the kiss in an informational date type?

 

[Franco]

Witcher,

Thx Franco Any good article or advice on how/where/when to go for the kiss in an informational date type?

At the very end of the date before you two part ways is the best time. It needs to be the thing she's thinking about as she's leaving. There's not really a guide on how to do this kiss, but there's a general article on how to kiss a girl that you can glance through.

Hope that helps. =)

- Franco

 

[Witcher]

Witcher,

Thx Franco Any good article or advice on how/where/when to go for the kiss in an informational date type?

At the very end of the date before you two part ways is the best time. It needs to be the thing she's thinking about as she's leaving. There's not really a guide on how to do this kiss, but there's a general article on how to kiss a girl that you can glance through.

Hope that helps. =)

- Franco

Thx Franco helps a lot. I just readed chase article https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-kiss-her who give alos good insights, but he clearly advoctae to not do it in the end of the date, wich in the contrary you do.

I'm not trying to make comparison or competition , and i even understood your approache of doing this on a romance frame. But know i got confleting idea. So what to much opposite advice on the same topics? Or you and chase have different approache?Or the one you gived me is specicif about my question about Informational date?

THx

 

[Franco]

Witcher,

I'm not trying to make comparison or competition , and i even understood your approache of doing this on a romance frame. But know i got confleting idea. So what to much opposite advice on the same topics? Or you and chase have different approache?Or the one you gived me is specicif about my question about Informational date?

The advice I gave you applies to two situations:

• 1) You can't get her to come home with you after making a strong attempt to do so
  2) You're on a date where you know you can't invite her home for whatever reason (so an informational date, basically)

If you haven't asked her home yet and logistics allow you to get her back to your place, you absolutely should hold off on kissing her until you're alone together. Kissing a girl at the end of a date is basically just a way of giving yourself a better chance of receiving a second date.

(NOTE: Chase has noted that he hasn't experimented enough with kiss-closing to get a second date, and several members on the boards -- including myself -- have gotten second dates after kiss-closing at the end of a date)

- Franco

 

[Witcher]

All interesting things.

Another question about dates, when we are on them(second or first), what should we talk about if i alerady made a connection withe girl in past by deep diving and focusing on her. You have to know that i take longuer time for number closing/ and inviting for date the girls , because i mostly go for my extended social circle not cold approache. So i wait after i got a good connection with her to invite her.
Closing for 5-10 minutes like advised feels very weird to me yet.

And even if i go to coald appraoche i still find weird to close after just 5-10 minutes of talking with no big deep rapport, how the hell could she remember me, if i do'nt have a strong connection , i'm just a stranger?

Comments?

 

[Franco]

Witcher,

what should we talk about if i alerady made a connection withe girl in past by deep diving and focusing on her?

Well, you always start the conversation light by asking her how the rest of her day/night was (the day you met her) or ask her how her week was if it's been a week or so since you've seen her. From there, she'll tell you about things that happened to her, and you open up new threads of conversation based on what she says. You ask her questions about it, and then things that she says that you can relate to, you relate to them by explaining why you feel the same way (or differently). If you can, tell her stories that relate to why you feel that way about something, or if you have something funny to say that came to mind based on the conversation, then feel free to say that too to see if she enjoys your sense of humor.

There's no way you can completely deep dive a girl in one meeting, and if somehow you did, then it means you were spending WAY too much time talking to this girl the first time you met her, and you've probably already been solidly friend-zoned or boyfriend-zoned. So you want to keep your chatter with her to a minimum until you get her out on a date.

And even if i go to coald appraoche i still find weird to close after just 5-10 minutes of talking with no big deep rapport, how the hell could she remember me, if i do'nt have a strong connection , i'm just a stranger?

You find it weird because you haven't done it. And the times you have done it, it probably didn't go so well because, internally, you thought it was weird. And since you thought it was weird, it probably DID come across as "weird" to her, and nothing came of it.

You need to be confident about the fact that women love meeting sexy, mysterious men. And you need to know how to lead the conversation in a way that makes her excited about you (which is actually just more about being relaxed and having great fundamentals than it is about saying anything specific). It's not so much about what you say as it is about how you carry yourself and how you inject your sexuality into the conversation.

A girl remembers your masculinity, your sexuality, your vibe, and your presence. She remembers how you made her feel. If you made her FEEL sexual attraction to you, then you can bet she'll remember every single thing you said to her.

- Franco

 

[Witcher]

Witcher,


A girl remembers your masculinity, your sexuality, your vibe, and your presence. She remembers how you made her feel. If you made her FEEL sexual attraction to you, then you can bet she'll remember every single thing you said to her.

- Franco

Ok how you make her feel , is not done in emotional connection "part" wich is rapport?
Perhaps i'm focusing too much in verbal game, cocky and funny , push/pull, wich need rapport do get balanced. But after the article "attraction" the :attraction guide i kno that i should focus on the non verbal part.
because mu "main" modele of attraction f we can call this is to do cokcy and funny and old shit until girl start to seek it. But after that i go to rapport , wich i was doing bad and after that do'nt get date mostly flakes.

But i'm going trought a change now, into making my interaction less competitive, this site help me alot.

So all the Connection, qualification should be done into the date and rapport be short in first meeting! Ok will do

How to proceed with the ones in extended social circle?