FR Dating a model

[Winston]

Repost from my my journal for more visibility.
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Yesterday I flirted with a 21yo model.

The context is a bit messy.

John matched with a girl on tinder. She wanted to arrange a meeting with her friend.

Wednesday evening we were 3 guys: John, David and me.
John set up the meeting with us (the 3 guys) + the 2 girls + he made come a third girl with who he was talking on tinder.

So we were 3 guys and 3 girls. John left after 1 hour with the third girl. So we remained David, me and the 2 girls.

We talked during maybe 1 hour more with the 2 girls. There was a good energy.

I was sitting in front of the 21yo girl, I DHV, she asked me questions but I wasn't sure if it was out of politeness, or if there was interest. I didn't talk about her work at all (modeling).

I read one of Chase's article about eyes contact that made me realised that I didn't get the basics at all. I wasn't looking enough other people when they talk. So I focused on that. When the girl talked to me I was looking at her in the eyes with a relaxed face.

David seemed to do good with the girl he was sitting in front of.

At some point my girl proposed that we meet up again the 4 of us the day after. I wasn't sure if this was serious or not.

Near the end I proposed we stayed in touch with insta. I add the 2 girls on insta. David's girl add me instantaneousny, but my girl wait until the end of the morning of the day after to add me.

They lived 5 minutes away. David proposed that we walked with them until their place but they declined. We say goodbye to each other.

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The next day in the afternoon I got a message from David telling me he was setting up the meeting at the end of afternoon. He was talking with his girl, I had no news of my girl besides the fact that she added me on insta with a kind of big delay.

We all meet up at the end of afternoon. David was more talkative than me. We walked around a bit. During the walk we split in group of 2, David with his girl and me with my girl. This time I asked a few question about her work. David was again more talkative than me, sometimes we regroup forming again a group of 4, he was kind of leading the group.

Then I push the idea of sitting somewhere to drink something. Both girls went to the restroom as soon as we arrived. Probably talking about us.

When they came back my girl sat next to me and David's girl sat next to him.

I ask her what's her type of guy. She said she doesn't have a particular physical type but that she want someone smart and something else that honestly I don't remember.

Then I think I did something very important at this point.

I am currently reading Swinggcat's ebook Real World Seduction and I try to integrate "being the prize". So I thought about that.

So when she said that she is lookong for someone smart and the other characteristic that I forgot... I said. "Well you pretty much described me."

She laughed.

I then said "but I am not sure I want to date a girl that is on tinder".

She laughed and justified herself with being on tinder only since a few days and because she is bored and want to just meet people with her friends that is her only a few days for holidays.

It's funny how it works. "You are looking for someone like me but I am not sure I want to date you".
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To a 21 year old model
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And the girl went on justifying herself, kind of chasing me. Swinggcat is a genius.

Then something very important happened again.

We changed topic, and she did a projection of us being together. Something like "if we are on the middle of the night and you start shaking I shouldn't worried and call the emergencies". Because I talked to her about TRE.

Then she asked my astrological sign. I asked hers which allowed me to kind of deep dive on her personality.

I think that the day before I already connected pretty well with her. I think listening and connecting with girls is one of my big strength. Because I know that even though David is more talkative, he doesn't connect as well with girls. I also think girls love to open up to someone they deem high value. So I need to be careful to not forget to DHV before deep diving/connecting otherwise I think they won't open up as much.

I just need to integrate more attraction techs after the connection part, and I reckon I will be very good. That is what I did with the line "you are looking for me but I am not sure I want to date you" and it fucking worked.

Then we paid and start walking around again. David and his girl were lagging behind and they start kissing. My girl was kind of shocked "omg omg".
"Don't worry she is in good hand"
"It's the first time I see her doing that"
"Come on, in nightclubs you have never seen each other kissing a guy?"
"Yes but here we are in daytime in the streets and we just meet you yesterday"

We walked more, starting to talk about parting ways (David and me had planned something else the evening).

I asked myself if I should kiss her too. But I choosed not to do so:
- it would have look like I am doing it because David is doing it
- I wasn't sure she was ready
- it would have accomplished nothing more from my point of view. My goal was just to see her again in 2 weeks because I was leaving the day after for a trip abroad

So I just said "let's catch up again when I am back."
She agreed and told me "you have my number".

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Then when David and I were together, he told me that her girl told him (while they were kissing) to not say anything to me (lol) but that her friend was liking me. And also that "I need to go slowly with her". Which is what I felt. It vindicates me with the decision of not kissing her.
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Any advice regarding how to maintain communication during these 2 weeks while I am abroad is more than welcome.
My current plan is to not to talk to her and just DHV with insta stories, but I am open to hearing any other course of actions.

 

[Winston]

So I went abroad for 2 weeks. Not contacting her.

Once back, I shoot her a message. She answered 48 hours later. Then I gave her a choice between 2 dates for a date. I was in town only for a few days, so there wasn't much leeway for scheduling. There was a lot of back and forth for setting up the logistics, she changed plans several times but every times she tried to find an alternative, so there was definetely interest on her side.

We finally meet up at the end of afternoon. She talk about sitting outside in a given bar, I insist to sit in another one where we could sit at 90 degrees apart. This was very important for me because my plan was to kiss her.

The conversation started about our works, and especially mine. She was asking me questions. I answered during a few minutes, reassuring her about the fact that even if I travel a lot I will be often in the same city as her. Then after a few minutes, I interrupted her questionning by taking the questionning role, asking her about her work.

Then I transitionned the discussion about men. We were talking about her friend that kissed my friend. She told me how this was too fast and she is not this kind of girl. I asked her what her usual pace with men. She answered jokingly that she kisses after 7 or 8 dates. I asked her about her previous relationships. She had only one important.

I also talked about her hobbies. She told me that she did swimming. I touched her shoulders and her arms, teasing her about her shoulders and arms not being big like a typical swimmer. This is the only time I touched her during the date, except at the end for the kiss.

Then I transitionned the conversation to the drugs topic. She was open minded about that and I have many interesting stories with them. She seemed to enjoy my stories. I could see she seems to like me.

Then at some point, during the drugs topic, after 45 minutes in, she looked at her phone. I asked her "how much time do you have left?". She told me she has to leave right now.

I knew this was going to be a short date, because with the back and forth over texting to set up the date I understood that she had planned for only a slot of 1h30 or 2h maximum, but 50 minutes was less then I expected. But she legitimately had a shooting session where she was requested at the last minute (she changed the hour of our meeting because of that).

When she was looking at her phone, I approach my chair closer to hers, I said "since your are leaving" and I put my right hand behind her back and I kissed her. She was a bit surprised but she let herself go and kissed me too.

I saw that it created a lot of emotions in her. She said "how could you do that after what I have said earlier?" (about the fact that she need to go slowly). There was a lot of sparks. I told her that I am happy that we were able to meet again, she told me the same. I told her that this is our first time alone together. She has braces and she asked me if it was the first time I kiss a girl with braces. I told her yes but I that I like to try new things. She asked me if I could feel them, I told her that it was only a kiss with lips and that for feeling something I would need to put my tongue in. I told her "maybe one day."

Then I went for another kiss. This one was longer, I caressed her neck more with my hand and she was more active. She opened her lips more, maybe I could have put the tongue in but I didn't push things. My job was done.

She asked me when I leave the city. I told her tomorrow but I will be back in town the week after. She was in a hurry, she told me that we should have meet sooner in the afternoon (so we would have had more time). I told her that she is a busy girl and I am a busy man.

So that was a 50-minutes date, where the conversation went smoothly, and which ended up on a emotional very high point. I reckon she will think about that ending a lot during the following days. Until our next meeting.

What was important:
- Insist to sit in a place where there were armchairs 90 degrees apart. Girls are brain dead about logistics, it's almost as if left to their own devices they will do everything in their power to make escalating more difficult for us
- Stop quickly her questionning at the beginning of the date to turn back the focus on her. It almost as if, left to their own devices, they will do whatever they can to prevent a cool conversation
- Transition to the right subjects "men/past relationships", "hobbies" and "drugs"
- Not listening to her about her need to go slowly and instead kiss her at the end, it will make a big difference in how she will remember me and our date

First time I kiss a model. I feel fucking great.