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SparklingWadah

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Pre-Outing​

I went on a second date with a girl I previously met via cold approach today. Forum rules say Field Reports should be out meeting new women so these are the cliffnotes:
  • Originally did a pretty average approach after she passed by me at a crosswalk.
  • First date was short and informational, but she seemed to show interest via text after.
  • Second date I had the goal to go for the kiss. We went out to eat lunch then go to a park.
  • Communication was challenging because she was still learning English.
  • She seemed to brush her hair a lot and complied with most of my requests, seemed like signs of interest.
  • I focused on strong eye contact and not breaking before her.
  • My attempts to flirt seemed to fall flat, in part due to language barrier.
  • Her body language was fairly open until we went to the park and I sat very close to her. Then it got closed and she didn't make eye contact with me. Eventually she flat out told me she was uncomfortable with the close proximity and the touching
  • This led to a conversation about why, and we talked about her being from a conservative country and not looking for a relationship. I leaned my body language back. Started to get into deep rapport about her values. That's when her body language opened up some more.
  • Due to bad logistics, she was already running late for her next appointment. I judged she wouldn't like it if I kissed her too suddenly, so as I was wrapping up I told her "I know you are not too comfortable with touch, but I would like to give you a kiss." She rejected this.
  • Date wrapped up with a friendly but not romantic goodbye
I perceived the date as a failure. It became clear in hindsight that (using SAC model) she needed similarity and I was pushing for too much arousal and compliance. Emotionally I felt like things were over with this girl and I would need to move on. With no remaining plans in the day I tried to salvage a win by going out to do daygame.

Goal​

Following my last Field Report I needed to work on better nonverbals so girls don't react defensively. https://www.skilledseducer.com/threads/a-volume-high-score.29507/post-181275

1. Relax your body language and mind
2. Deliver expressive openers and then shift to more serious vibe
3. Give strong eye contact - she should look down at least once

Outing​

I felt empty and lethargic when I got to the field. The prior date was tiring and I wasn't recovered from yesterday yet. I sat down and meditated for 10 minutes, and focused on relaxing and finding joy in the outing (not very successful).

I went to a busy mall, which might be a mistake. I did not have the social stamina to match the high energy vibe of the venue. I realized I needed to be strategic about my energy.

Approach 1​

I was browsing a store when I saw a pretty girl sitting alone at a bench outside. Made eye contact and I held and smiled, then she broke. After browsing a bit I made my way outside and walked up. Hard to avoid full frontal angle due to positioning, but I shifted my body to face my side to her after approaching from the front. Gave her a expressive compliment, which she accepted positively. Chatted for a bit and held strong eye contact. Talked about her job (she was on a work break). Saw her brush her hair and hold steady eye contact with a smile, so I asked to sit down with her. She said she would be going soon, I replied I just wanted to rest my feet a minute. Chatted a little more then asked her out, but she had a boyfriend. Tried the Tony Depp line "How's that working out for you?" and she was happy with her relationship so I ejected.

Takeaway: I didn't ask for any compliance. I should use something like "Tell me about yourself." I was relaxed because I was so low energy and this seemed to make her feel comfortable. I forgot to shift to more serious vibe after expressive opening.

Approach 2​

Saw a pretty girl walking by quickly and jogged after her. I got to her side then a couple feet in front before I opened expressively and focused on being high energy to match the vibe of the approach. She reacted happily but said she had a boyfriend, and continued moving (seemed to be in a rush).

Takeaway: Speaking quickly during my opener was effective when running a girl down. Getting a little bit farther in front of her before opening is good, although I still startled her slightly when I appeared. I didn't focus on strong eye contact as I should have.

Approach 3​

Chilled in front of a store in the mall when I pretty girl walked by. I caught up and tried to use a similar approach as the previous. There was actually a mall worker right next to us but it seemed like he couldn't hear me complimenting her due to how loud the mall was.

She reacted positively but after some light conversation I got the feeling she wasn't really hooked or engaged. She also had her back to a pillar while my back was to the open space. Touched her a couple times while teasing but it felt a bit awkward.

She asked what I did, and I used one of Chase's lines: "I'm a barber for bald men." This got a nice laugh. I asked for compliance to see her bracelet, and she reluctantly extended her hand a little bit for me. A little more conversation, then she said she had to get going soon. I got the feeling she was trying to eject.

Felt like I needed to ask her out now, so I suggested we get a coffee. She asked my age, which I replied. She then said "You're younger than me." Asked if she hit 100 years yet and tried to frame age as not that big a deal, but she didn't seem very satisfied. She was being slippery and it seemed like I wasn't going to close her so I said goodbye.

Takeaway: I didn't lock in quickly enough. I asked for compliance too late - I should have suggested we move a few steps. I should have tried closing faster before she ejected on her own. It seemed like I might have been too attainable, so maybe I needed to give less attention or tease her more. I forgot to shift to more serious vibe after opening. I didn't focus on strong eye contact as I should have.

Approach 4​

Saw a girl who seemed to be a good target to my instincts. I didn't know why until I got close and realized she was swinging her hips back and forth slightly more than normal in a sexual way. I opened expressive, and she seemed to realize I was approaching her romantically midway through my opener, after "I just saw you walking by over there..." Maybe my nonverbals telegraph too much? However she responded very positively to the compliment and brushed her hair, but said she had a boyfriend and started moving on. I bid her farewell.

Takeaway: This was probably a general approach invitation or a sign of her feeling horny, and my lizard brain caught it despite the other attractive but less open girls around. I should pay more attention to this kind of instinct. I didn't focus on strong eye contact as I should have.

Outcome​

I was utterly exhausted and only approached once every ~45 minutes or so. I remember feeling like my legs were too heavy to jog or run and needed to lean against a pillar for a bit. I was also not able to focus very well on my goals. This is probably overdoing it on exertion.

I still had the ability to open expressively and get a positive reaction, however I originally stopped because I wanted to develop more sexual edge. I have a hard time shifting between an friendly, expressive vibe on open to intense, intentful vibe in conversation. This will require many more repetitions to get familiar with.

I noticed a lot of heavy feelings weighing on me during this outing, like "What am I doing out here? I'm wasting my time" and "No matter what skills I learn, I will be disappointed in the end." I recognized these as emotions resulting from the earlier date and recent outings and not necessarily reflective of reality, yet I also acknowledged that they didn't need to be true to have an effect on me.

I am somewhat concerned that it will be hard to internally challenge it it because I have overwhelmingly more data points of failing versus succeeding. This may lead to future burnout or self sabotage (to persist an identity of "failing"). I should prioritize more meditation to let go of unhelpful feelings, although I am skeptical I will be able to without finding real success.
 
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Will_V

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Pre-Outing​

I went on a second date with a girl I previously met via cold approach today. Forum rules say Field Reports should be out meeting new women so these are the cliffnotes:
  • Originally did a pretty average approach after she passed by me at a crosswalk.
  • First date was short and informational, but she seemed to show interest via text after.
  • Second date I had the goal to go for the kiss. We went out to eat lunch then go to a park.
  • Communication was challenging because she was still learning English.
  • She seemed to brush her hair a lot and complied with most of my requests, seemed like signs of interest.
  • I focused on strong eye contact and not breaking before her.
  • My attempts to flirt seemed to fall flat, in part due to language barrier.
  • Her body language was fairly open until we went to the park and I sat very close to her. Then it got closed and she didn't make eye contact with me. Eventually she flat out told me she was uncomfortable with the close proximity and the touching
  • This led to a conversation about why, and we talked about her being from a conservative country and not looking for a relationship. I leaned my body language back. Started to get into deep rapport about her values. That's when her body language opened up some more.
  • Due to bad logistics, she was already running late for her next appointment. I judged she wouldn't like it if I kissed her too suddenly, so as I was wrapping up I told her "I know you are not too comfortable with touch, but I would like to give you a kiss." She rejected this.
  • Date wrapped up with a friendly but not romantic goodbye
I perceived the date as a failure. It became clear in hindsight that (using SAC model) she needed similarity and I was pushing for too much arousal and compliance. Emotionally I felt like things were over with this girl and I would need to move on. With no remaining plans in the day I tried to salvage a win by going out to do daygame.

Goal​

Following my last Field Report I needed to work on better nonverbals so girls don't react defensively. https://www.skilledseducer.com/threads/a-volume-high-score.29507/post-181275

1. Relax your body language and mind
2. Deliver expressive openers and then shift to more serious vibe
3. Give strong eye contact - she should look down at least once

Outing​

I felt empty and lethargic when I got to the field. The prior date was tiring and I wasn't recovered from yesterday yet. I sat down and meditated for 10 minutes, and focused on relaxing and finding joy in the outing (not very successful).

I went to a busy mall, which might be a mistake. I did not have the social stamina to match the high energy vibe of the venue. I realized I needed to be strategic about my energy.

Approach 1​

I was browsing a store when I saw a pretty girl sitting alone at a bench outside. Made eye contact and I held and smiled, then she broke. After browsing a bit I made my way outside and walked up. Hard to avoid full frontal angle due to positioning, but I shifted my body to face my side to her after approaching from the front. Gave her a expressive compliment, which she accepted positively. Chatted for a bit and held strong eye contact. Talked about her job (she was on a work break). Saw her brush her hair and hold steady eye contact with a smile, so I asked to sit down with her. She said she would be going soon, I replied I just wanted to rest my feet a minute. Chatted a little more then asked her out, but she had a boyfriend. Tried the Tony Depp line "How's that working out for you?" and she was happy with her relationship so I ejected.

Takeaway: I didn't ask for any compliance. I should use something like "Tell me about yourself." I was relaxed because I was so low energy and this seemed to make her feel comfortable. I forgot to shift to more serious vibe after expressive opening.

Approach 2​

Saw a pretty girl walking by quickly and jogged after her. I got to her side then a couple feet in front before I opened expressively and focused on being high energy to match the vibe of the approach. She reacted happily but said she had a boyfriend, and continued moving (seemed to be in a rush).

Takeaway: Speaking quickly during my opener was effective when running a girl down. Getting a little bit farther in front of her before opening is good, although I still startled her slightly when I appeared. I didn't focus on strong eye contact as I should have.

Approach 3​

Chilled in front of a store in the mall when I pretty girl walked by. I caught up and tried to use a similar approach as the previous. There was actually a mall worker right next to us but it seemed like he couldn't hear me complimenting her due to how loud the mall was.

She reacted positively but after some light conversation I got the feeling she wasn't really hooked or engaged. She also had her back to a pillar while my back was to the open space. Touched her a couple times while teasing but it felt a bit awkward.

She asked what I did, and I used one of Chase's lines: "I'm a barber for bald men." This got a nice laugh. I asked for compliance to see her bracelet, and she reluctantly extended her hand a little bit for me. A little more conversation, then she said she had to get going soon. I got the feeling she was trying to eject.

Felt like I needed to ask her out now, so I suggested we get a coffee. She asked my age, which I replied. She then said "You're younger than me." Asked if she hit 100 years yet and tried to frame age as not that big a deal, but she didn't seem very satisfied. She was being slippery and it seemed like I wasn't going to close her so I said goodbye.

Takeaway: I didn't lock in quickly enough. I asked for compliance too late - I should have suggested we move a few steps. I should have tried closing faster before she ejected on her own. It seemed like I might have been too attainable, so maybe I needed to give less attention or tease her more. I forgot to shift to more serious vibe after opening. I didn't focus on strong eye contact as I should have.

Approach 4​

Saw a girl who seemed to be a good target to my instincts. I didn't know why until I got close and realized she was swinging her hips back and forth slightly more than normal in a sexual way. I opened expressive, and she seemed to realize I was approaching her romantically midway through my opener, after "I just saw you walking by over there..." Maybe my nonverbals telegraph too much? However she responded very positively to the compliment and brushed her hair, but said she had a boyfriend and started moving on. I bid her farewell.

Takeaway: This was probably a general approach invitation or a sign of her feeling horny, and my lizard brain caught it despite the other attractive but less open girls around. I should pay more attention to this kind of instinct. I didn't focus on strong eye contact as I should have.

Outcome​

I was utterly exhausted and only approached once every ~45 minutes or so. I remember feeling like my legs were too heavy to jog or run and needed to lean against a pillar for a bit. I was also not able to focus very well on my goals. This is probably overdoing it on exertion.

I still had the ability to open expressively and get a positive reaction, however I originally stopped because I wanted to develop more sexual edge. I have a hard time shifting between an friendly, expressive vibe on open to intense, intentful vibe in conversation. This will require many more repetitions to get familiar with.

I noticed a lot of heavy feelings weighing on me during this outing, like "What am I doing out here? I'm wasting my time" and "No matter what skills I learn, I will be disappointed in the end." I recognized these as emotions resulting from the earlier date and recent outings and not necessarily reflective of reality, yet I also acknowledged that they didn't need to be true to have an effect on me.

I am somewhat concerned that it will be hard to internally challenge it it because I have overwhelmingly more data points of failing versus succeeding. This may lead to future burnout or self sabotage (to persist an identity of "failing"). I should prioritize more meditation to let go of unhelpful feelings, although I am skeptical I will be able to without finding real success.

Well done on going out and doing a few approaches after the date.

So you went from 4 interactions out of 12 approaches (your earlier field report) to 2 interactions out of 4 approaches (and even when a couple of the girls bailed here, the vibe was relatively good, unlike last time).

That shows that when you focus on improving something, it's possible to make an immediate improvement from one outing to the next.

What you need to do is take each step of the seduction and improve it like that, a simple seduction structure might look like:

- Making an approach that she's receptive to (which you did fairly well here)
- Delivering a unique compliment
- Talking about what she's doing
- Transitioning to asking her about herself
- Breaking the touch barrier
- Qualifying her
- Suggesting the date and getting the number

After each approach, make a quick assessment of on what step things took a wrong turn, and try to focus on doing that step a little bit better next time.

If you stay positive and driven while doing that, you'll improve steadily over time.
 

AspiringStoic

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Pre-Outing​

I went on a second date with a girl I previously met via cold approach today. Forum rules say Field Reports should be out meeting new women so these are the cliffnotes:
  • Originally did a pretty average approach after she passed by me at a crosswalk.
  • First date was short and informational, but she seemed to show interest via text after.
  • Second date I had the goal to go for the kiss. We went out to eat lunch then go to a park.
  • Communication was challenging because she was still learning English.
  • She seemed to brush her hair a lot and complied with most of my requests, seemed like signs of interest.
  • I focused on strong eye contact and not breaking before her.
  • My attempts to flirt seemed to fall flat, in part due to language barrier.
  • Her body language was fairly open until we went to the park and I sat very close to her. Then it got closed and she didn't make eye contact with me. Eventually she flat out told me she was uncomfortable with the close proximity and the touching
  • This led to a conversation about why, and we talked about her being from a conservative country and not looking for a relationship. I leaned my body language back. Started to get into deep rapport about her values. That's when her body language opened up some more.
  • Due to bad logistics, she was already running late for her next appointment. I judged she wouldn't like it if I kissed her too suddenly, so as I was wrapping up I told her "I know you are not too comfortable with touch, but I would like to give you a kiss." She rejected this.
  • Date wrapped up with a friendly but not romantic goodbye
I perceived the date as a failure. It became clear in hindsight that (using SAC model) she needed similarity and I was pushing for too much arousal and compliance. Emotionally I felt like things were over with this girl and I would need to move on. With no remaining plans in the day I tried to salvage a win by going out to do daygame.

Goal​

Following my last Field Report I needed to work on better nonverbals so girls don't react defensively. https://www.skilledseducer.com/threads/a-volume-high-score.29507/post-181275

1. Relax your body language and mind
2. Deliver expressive openers and then shift to more serious vibe
3. Give strong eye contact - she should look down at least once

Outing​

I felt empty and lethargic when I got to the field. The prior date was tiring and I wasn't recovered from yesterday yet. I sat down and meditated for 10 minutes, and focused on relaxing and finding joy in the outing (not very successful).

I went to a busy mall, which might be a mistake. I did not have the social stamina to match the high energy vibe of the venue. I realized I needed to be strategic about my energy.

Approach 1​

I was browsing a store when I saw a pretty girl sitting alone at a bench outside. Made eye contact and I held and smiled, then she broke. After browsing a bit I made my way outside and walked up. Hard to avoid full frontal angle due to positioning, but I shifted my body to face my side to her after approaching from the front. Gave her a expressive compliment, which she accepted positively. Chatted for a bit and held strong eye contact. Talked about her job (she was on a work break). Saw her brush her hair and hold steady eye contact with a smile, so I asked to sit down with her. She said she would be going soon, I replied I just wanted to rest my feet a minute. Chatted a little more then asked her out, but she had a boyfriend. Tried the Tony Depp line "How's that working out for you?" and she was happy with her relationship so I ejected.

Takeaway: I didn't ask for any compliance. I should use something like "Tell me about yourself." I was relaxed because I was so low energy and this seemed to make her feel comfortable. I forgot to shift to more serious vibe after expressive opening.

Approach 2​

Saw a pretty girl walking by quickly and jogged after her. I got to her side then a couple feet in front before I opened expressively and focused on being high energy to match the vibe of the approach. She reacted happily but said she had a boyfriend, and continued moving (seemed to be in a rush).

Takeaway: Speaking quickly during my opener was effective when running a girl down. Getting a little bit farther in front of her before opening is good, although I still startled her slightly when I appeared. I didn't focus on strong eye contact as I should have.

Approach 3​

Chilled in front of a store in the mall when I pretty girl walked by. I caught up and tried to use a similar approach as the previous. There was actually a mall worker right next to us but it seemed like he couldn't hear me complimenting her due to how loud the mall was.

She reacted positively but after some light conversation I got the feeling she wasn't really hooked or engaged. She also had her back to a pillar while my back was to the open space. Touched her a couple times while teasing but it felt a bit awkward.

She asked what I did, and I used one of Chase's lines: "I'm a barber for bald men." This got a nice laugh. I asked for compliance to see her bracelet, and she reluctantly extended her hand a little bit for me. A little more conversation, then she said she had to get going soon. I got the feeling she was trying to eject.

Felt like I needed to ask her out now, so I suggested we get a coffee. She asked my age, which I replied. She then said "You're younger than me." Asked if she hit 100 years yet and tried to frame age as not that big a deal, but she didn't seem very satisfied. She was being slippery and it seemed like I wasn't going to close her so I said goodbye.

Takeaway: I didn't lock in quickly enough. I asked for compliance too late - I should have suggested we move a few steps. I should have tried closing faster before she ejected on her own. It seemed like I might have been too attainable, so maybe I needed to give less attention or tease her more. I forgot to shift to more serious vibe after opening. I didn't focus on strong eye contact as I should have.

Approach 4​

Saw a girl who seemed to be a good target to my instincts. I didn't know why until I got close and realized she was swinging her hips back and forth slightly more than normal in a sexual way. I opened expressive, and she seemed to realize I was approaching her romantically midway through my opener, after "I just saw you walking by over there..." Maybe my nonverbals telegraph too much? However she responded very positively to the compliment and brushed her hair, but said she had a boyfriend and started moving on. I bid her farewell.

Takeaway: This was probably a general approach invitation or a sign of her feeling horny, and my lizard brain caught it despite the other attractive but less open girls around. I should pay more attention to this kind of instinct. I didn't focus on strong eye contact as I should have.

Outcome​

I was utterly exhausted and only approached once every ~45 minutes or so. I remember feeling like my legs were too heavy to jog or run and needed to lean against a pillar for a bit. I was also not able to focus very well on my goals. This is probably overdoing it on exertion.

I still had the ability to open expressively and get a positive reaction, however I originally stopped because I wanted to develop more sexual edge. I have a hard time shifting between an friendly, expressive vibe on open to intense, intentful vibe in conversation. This will require many more repetitions to get familiar with.

I noticed a lot of heavy feelings weighing on me during this outing, like "What am I doing out here? I'm wasting my time" and "No matter what skills I learn, I will be disappointed in the end." I recognized these as emotions resulting from the earlier date and recent outings and not necessarily reflective of reality, yet I also acknowledged that they didn't need to be true to have an effect on me.

I am somewhat concerned that it will be hard to internally challenge it it because I have overwhelmingly more data points of failing versus succeeding. This may lead to future burnout or self sabotage (to persist an identity of "failing"). I should prioritize more meditation to let go of unhelpful feelings, although I am skeptical I will be able to without finding real success.
I see an experienced member is already giving you great tips. But having read a few of your reports I wanted to chime in a bit. I am not an advanced guy, but I am doing/learning the same thing as you, i.e. direct daygame and I wanted to offer a perspective of a relative newbie.

I have a feeling that maybe you should try to forget all the improvement points you are writing down and trying to work on for a while. With this many things running through your head, no doubt daygame or talking to girls is exhausting for you. It just sounds exhausting for me just reading it. 😪

I have realized that especially for direct daygame. The crucial thing is those first 3-5 seconds. So lets break it down.

You see a girl that you like and you decide to approach her. Instead of worrying about reading her body language, trying to figure out whether she gave you an IOI etc just clear your head, try not to think of ANYTHING except that you are going to just go open.

So you walk over and then utter that opening line
"Hey, I saw you as I was walking overe there, I thought you looked really pretty, so I wanted to come over and say hi"

Something like this or a variation of it.

After uttering this line is when you are the "MOST VULNERABLE!" Meaning this is when she can humiliate you, reject you, dismiss you, embarrass you etc depending on what reaction she gives. Of course she cannot really do any of that, but that is what our ego is scared of to the very core. And I think this point right here is the crucial bit.

The more comfortable you get about "letting go" and being able to be comfortable with what happens in the next few seconds after you deliver that opener, I think determines a lot of things.

As long as we still FEAR her response, we will never be able to walk up and open like this calmly. The more comfortable we get about saying that line, getting to that vulnerable part and being able to take any reaction, the more calm, confident, non-needy and cool we are going to come across to any girl that we approach.

I feel this is the crucial part. Getting comfortable with this is more important than working on eye contact, tonalilty, body langauge etc. Because once you are comfortable with stating your intention with the direct opener and letting go on an emotional level of that NEED to CONTROL her reaction, all those things like eye contact, tonality, body language etc will start improving by themselves.

After getting to this stage, I think then is when we can be calm enough to actually apply all other GAME tech and tactics. I would say forget about all the technicalities and focus on calmly delivering the opener and kind of letting go and being okay with whatever reaction she gives. Pausing after the opening line and staying present in that vulnerable moment.

That is what I am concentrating on. I feel its helping me a lot to be more calmer and more importantly more excited about approaching. 😀

I think if you don't find a way to like and enjoy approaching, most guys are going to quit sooner or later.

Anyways if what I say reasonates with you try it out. If it sounds too "woo woo" and you prefer having all these things to be on your mind and focus on all of them, then don't let my post derail your progress. 😊
 

gameboy

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What you need to do is take each step of the seduction and improve it like that, a simple seduction structure might look like:

- Making an approach that she's receptive to (which you did fairly well here)
- Delivering a unique compliment
- Talking about what she's doing
- Transitioning to asking her about herself
- Breaking the touch barrier
- Qualifying her
- Suggesting the date and getting the number
I'm going to borrow this process!

Yesterday I approached a girl and bailed to soon. I did points 1 and 3, but I forgot the compliment part. Should have told her I found her interesting and wanted to say hi, and asked her about herself. Because I did really find her interesting.
 

Will_V

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I'm going to borrow this process!

Yesterday I approached a girl and bailed to soon. I did points 1 and 3, but I forgot the compliment part. Should have told her I found her interesting and wanted to say hi, and asked her about herself. Because I did really find her interesting.

The best thing is to compliment her genuinely on whatever it was that made you approach her in the first place. Maybe you like her hair, her style, the way she moves, or some vibe you got from her.

If you only want to approach because she's got nice buns, maybe take a second to find something a bit more PG that catches your eye about her!

When you go up knowing what it is you like about her (rather than just going 'oh ok she's by herself, that qualifies, time to make approach #13) it's a lot easier to have a genuine smile and energy as you come in and say your piece. It's even very satisfying just to deliver the compliment by itself, because it's you expressing yourself.
 
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SparklingWadah

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That shows that when you focus on improving something, it's possible to make an immediate improvement from one outing to the next.
Thank you for the encouragement, although in this case I had already been practicing delivering an expressive opener for the last 3 months. But I definitely also saw the converse: my results could nosedive immediately from one outing to the next :ROFLMAO:

If you stay positive and driven while doing that, you'll improve steadily over time.
This is true, although more challenging than it sounds. I have noticed a natural tendency to get less driven, just go through the motions and not care much to preserve ego. At the same time, when I care too much I get very negative without seeing results. I found that training my mind to handle these obstacles is a not often discussed but essential fundamental skill.
 

SparklingWadah

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I think if you don't find a way to like and enjoy approaching, most guys are going to quit sooner or later.

Anyways if what I say reasonates with you try it out. If it sounds too "woo woo" and you prefer having all these things to be on your mind and focus on all of them, then don't let my post derail your progress. 😊
My coach has explained something similar to me before: there are periods when you go hard and overboard to learn a skill, and then when you relax and stop thinking about it is when you reap the rewards of all your practice.

In this case I wouldn't say I'm thinking too much about all the things I've noticed. I spent two years trying to defeat approach anxiety and do daygame, so this is just the result of picking up a lot of information over time.
 
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