daygame approach, talk for 30 sec or 3 min, is there a difference?

[thats_a_penis_disgustang]

don't ask me, bc I legit have no idea. after I took 20 numbers from what seemed to be very interested girls in the last two weeks and got 0 dates I really am lost. 70% initially held contact, but I provided nothing of substance except "so when are you free?" texts, and had no connection with any of them.

so would it make a difference?

30 sec approach: Hi , I just saw you and I liked you. do you have a boyfriend? well I want to see you sometime, when are you free? let me get that number, I'll call. bye!

3 min approach: all that + tell me something interesting about yourself. oh, what kind of dancing? that is cool, always wanted that. how are your finals now? tight scedule?.... so let's try to meet this friday at that place, you know it? bla bla. nice to meet you, till next time!

 

[ElderPrice]

I think an issue is that your call-to-action doesn't match your approach.

- Your physical approach is direct and confident
- Your words are direct and confident - You clearly say why you approached, you asked if she's single, she says yes, and then...

You propose to meet up again some other, undefined time? Why?!?

You just walked up to her like she's the most beautiful girl you've seen all day, she told you she's single, and you're both free enough right then and there to have this conversation. Continue your attempts to move the interaction forward confidently! Meaning, stop going for the number close. Start proposing either 1. an instant date, right then and there, or 2. Schedule a set date with all the details right then and there, if you truly aren't able to have an instant date. THEN ask for her number.

This shows your direct and confident approach was sincere and that you aren't just spam approaching every girl that walks by.

 

[thats_a_penis_disgustang]

I understand. Will try on monday, report back

 

[Rakkum]

@thats_a_penis_disgustang

Great job putting the effort and getting the numbers! What about your texting? Did you send the ice-breaker, for example?

 

[thats_a_penis_disgustang]

I text: "hey it is me, was very nice to meet you"

 

[thats_a_penis_disgustang]

I think an issue is that your call-to-action doesn't match your approach.

- Your physical approach is direct and confident
- Your words are direct and confident - You clearly say why you approached, you asked if she's single, she says yes, and then...

You propose to meet up again some other, undefined time? Why?!?

You just walked up to her like she's the most beautiful girl you've seen all day, she told you she's single, and you're both free enough right then and there to have this conversation. Continue your attempts to move the interaction forward confidently! Meaning, stop going for the number close. Start proposing either 1. an instant date, right then and there, or 2. Schedule a set date with all the details right then and there, if you truly aren't able to have an instant date. THEN ask for her number.

This shows your direct and confident approach was sincere and that you aren't just spam approaching every girl that walks by.

very quick update, baby boys.
I rewired my brain to be much more intimate and thorough with every girl and concider instant dates, like the gentleman said
yesterday I got out of the bus and instantly approached a cute girl on a bus stop, we walked and talked and touched for 2 hours and are meeting again today, so, I guess, talking to girls like they are people instead of spamming does work. who would have known...

 

[Mr STIF]

30 sec approach: Hi , I just saw you and I liked you. do you have a boyfriend? well I want to see you sometime, when are you free? let me get that number, I'll call. bye!


I don't know which part of the world you live in but Africa girls start to think of me as boyfriend material anytime I ask "do you have a boyfriend.'

Austin Summers advices to ask this question instead- "do you have a man in your life?"

The question allows for flexibility of answers.

Example
Me: do you have a man in your life?
Girl: Yes but it's nothing serious.

Example
Me: do you have a man in your life?
Girl: I'm married.
Me: Wow.. Is he around here or what?
Girl: Noooo.. He's in Spain, I just came here to get groceries.

Secondly, stop looking for just numbers. Genuinely connect with people and the law of least effort will make getting the number a by-product of an amazing connection, it will reduce the flakes.

Ciao!

 

[thats_a_penis_disgustang]

I don't know which part of the world you live in but Africa girls start to think of me as boyfriend material anytime I ask "do you have a boyfriend.'

There are two opinions in pua community, one is "just ask about the boyfriend so there is no bullshit later (like she thinks you want to be just friends or gives some crazy lmr)" other is "don't ask, because she is not going to tell you about the boyfriend if she really likes you from the get go, and if she lets you fuck her while she is in a relationship, that's on her"

I personally prefer the former approach, because I never had any problem with girls answering me honestly about their situation, if she has one, she tells that at my "I saw you and I liked you", if she has "kind of a friend, nothing happened yet" she would just straight up tell me that and just gives me number anyway, bc I tell her "if it doesn't work out with him, I'll call you", and, if a girl doesn't have a bf, she just says that she doesn't.

 

[thats_a_penis_disgustang]

Secondly, stop looking for just numbers. Genuinely connect with people and the law of least effort will make getting the number a by-product of an amazing connection, it will reduce the flakes.

absolutely correct, I already adjusted to that and since posting this thread already had instant dates on sunday and today. (monday was the 2nd date with the sunday girl)