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Quick Edit: sorry about the stream of consciousness way of talking, I'm on like 2 hours of sleep but needed get my thoughts out there lol. As a TLDR: main question: how much investment/compliance do you need (how can you tell it's enough) and what are you doing specifically I guess?
As some of you know I've been ramming my head against the wall with daygame. I'm assuming that I don't really understand compliance/investment all that well. I'm going through notes and stuff, but what kinds of compliance requests or getting investment strategies do you guys use early on in an interaction/date?
I haven't done any new real approaching in like 2-3 weeks. I've still talked to women as I've seen them, but I haven't really gone out to specifically approach. And actually, what got me onto thinking about this was an interaction I had with a stripper that made me think of when I used to use swing/ballroom to pickup chicks and how it was so easy.
I used to think that it was because of the status boost I got (since I did actually used to teach those dance styles and very clearly know what I'm doing, plus being in those environments). Now I'm starting to wonder if it was more to do with telling women what to do and them following my lead? Because at the strip club it was after close and I was waiting on people and while waiting I started talking to the waitress. She mentioned having done a little swing and I was feeling dancy myself so I just got her to start doing some with me. Instructing her.
In a way, she kinda softened... is the only way I know how to say it. Then later at breakfast I found an opportunity to rope another one in with me and she warmed up a lot. Even though in both of these cases I don't think it had much to do with status (I guess it could be, but my gut tells me it's not). The first waitress girl was still in the club, which means she had faaaar more status than I did. And I would say that the second time, even though we weren't in the club, I'd still say she had more status than I did (gut impression, not all that important).
And yet... I still noticed changes in both women (kind of about the same I'd say, but maybe a little more with the second girl if I had to pick one).
Okay, so if that's the case, and other people have pointed out that I have a lack of getting investment, which I've thought about and believe to be true, how do I fix it?
I understand that leading makes you look good, but how much of it do you need? How much is too much? What are some signs you look for to know it's time to start going after investment/compliance and etc.?
Like, do you just need to throw out 2-3 little things and that's enough? How can I tell it's enough or need more?
What are your investment/compliance strategies in an interaction? Like, I understand that there are some catchall ones that you can use but they just seem... not enough in my mind honestly.
So yeah... main question; how much do you need and what are you doing I guess?
Sorry for the stream of consciousness question, I'm on like 2 hours of sleep but I felt like I needed to get my thoughts out there
As some of you know I've been ramming my head against the wall with daygame. I'm assuming that I don't really understand compliance/investment all that well. I'm going through notes and stuff, but what kinds of compliance requests or getting investment strategies do you guys use early on in an interaction/date?
I haven't done any new real approaching in like 2-3 weeks. I've still talked to women as I've seen them, but I haven't really gone out to specifically approach. And actually, what got me onto thinking about this was an interaction I had with a stripper that made me think of when I used to use swing/ballroom to pickup chicks and how it was so easy.
I used to think that it was because of the status boost I got (since I did actually used to teach those dance styles and very clearly know what I'm doing, plus being in those environments). Now I'm starting to wonder if it was more to do with telling women what to do and them following my lead? Because at the strip club it was after close and I was waiting on people and while waiting I started talking to the waitress. She mentioned having done a little swing and I was feeling dancy myself so I just got her to start doing some with me. Instructing her.
In a way, she kinda softened... is the only way I know how to say it. Then later at breakfast I found an opportunity to rope another one in with me and she warmed up a lot. Even though in both of these cases I don't think it had much to do with status (I guess it could be, but my gut tells me it's not). The first waitress girl was still in the club, which means she had faaaar more status than I did. And I would say that the second time, even though we weren't in the club, I'd still say she had more status than I did (gut impression, not all that important).
And yet... I still noticed changes in both women (kind of about the same I'd say, but maybe a little more with the second girl if I had to pick one).
Okay, so if that's the case, and other people have pointed out that I have a lack of getting investment, which I've thought about and believe to be true, how do I fix it?
I understand that leading makes you look good, but how much of it do you need? How much is too much? What are some signs you look for to know it's time to start going after investment/compliance and etc.?
Like, do you just need to throw out 2-3 little things and that's enough? How can I tell it's enough or need more?
What are your investment/compliance strategies in an interaction? Like, I understand that there are some catchall ones that you can use but they just seem... not enough in my mind honestly.
So yeah... main question; how much do you need and what are you doing I guess?
Sorry for the stream of consciousness question, I'm on like 2 hours of sleep but I felt like I needed to get my thoughts out there
