Daygame "I've got a boyfriend"

[killerman]

Been out daygaming a lot over the last 2 months. And once thing ive noticed is how quick girls are to respond to your initial approach with the "i've got a boyfriend" comment, sometimes even it sometimes being the first thing they say. And they say it with a very non serious look on their face. Is it them just being on auto pilot? How many times are they being honest when they say this?

 

[Mr.Rob]

how many times do you walk into a retail store and a sales associate approaches you and asks if you need any questions and you reply with...

No thanks! I'm just looking!

Even though you may very well be in there to buy something but you simply don't want to be "sold" anything.

Same goes for girls especially if you are new to the game and aren't presenting yourself properly.

You need to change your approach up in some form or fashion. Try going indirect or situational and getting into conversation. If she starts contributing and asking questions then go direct or tell her to move with you somewhere.

If a girl tells you immediately she has a boyfriend say "oh that's awesome, so anyway blah blah blah" and if she sticks around and enjoys herself try and move her or propose a date anyway. A lot of times it is a bullshit excuse used to brush off unwanted guys. The thing is maybe if she knew you a little better (you display you're cool and masculine) she might not consider you unwanted after all.

Lastly if you're only 2 months in I wouldn't worry too much since you are still ironing out your kinks.

Instead keep grinding it out, changing your approach/conversation up, and write field reports for what happened and you should start seeing less and less of "I have a boyfriend!"

Good luck

-Rob

 

[killerman]

ok cheers for the feedback. and how long did it take you to iron out your kinks?

 

[Mr.Rob]

ok cheers for the feedback. and how long did it take you to iron out your kinks?

Still ironing them out a solid 2 and a half years later.

But the big ones took me about a year to year and a half.

Took me 11 months to get my first lay, 12 to get my first cold approach lay.

A year and a half to get my first date from a phone number.

I progressed somewhat slow compared to the average guy on the boards here that actually puts in the work to be great but I'm glad I stuck it out.

Embrace the odyssey of learning a new skill set.

-Rob

 

[ray_zorse]

hey Killerman you can make faster progress if you game several times a week, what I used to do was go out at about 4pm for day (street) game and talk to about 20~30 girls, then as it became dark and girls started to be in groups or with boyfriends I'd take a break for dinner, then I'd hit up a bar or pub around 9pm and talk to another 10~20 girls and then go clubbing from midnight to 4am and talk to another 20~30 girls, I would be fuckin exhausted and have to finish cos I just didn't have the energy to talk to girls and would pussy out due to tiredness. For the first month I'd get like one or two numbers per outing, mostly flakes. This gradually improved as I added more tweaks to my game, such as sexual flirting or cold reads or moving girls. But you basically need just shitloads of practice. I got my first daygame lay after 5mths (had a LR- from nightgame the month before). Since then, 7mths has passed and I've laid 6 new girls.
Ray

 

[Motiv]

ok cheers for the feedback. and how long did it take you to iron out your kinks?

Still ironing them out a solid 2 and a half years later.

But the big ones took me about a year to year and a half.

Took me 11 months to get my first lay, 12 to get my first cold approach lay.

A year and a half to get my first date from a phone number.

I progressed somewhat slow compared to the average guy on the boards here that actually puts in the work to be great but I'm glad I stuck it out.

Embrace the odyssey of learning a new skill set.

-Rob

I'm glad you stuck it out too, Mr. Rob, so that guys like me can leech off your experience, haha.

It is actually very inspirational to hear of "slow" learners who now have wild success—TBH, I tend to think of "slow" learners as just being more detail oriented—you've got more thoughts on your mind and bases you want to cover, so you plug away until you hit all the points you think you need to. The route you took might be have been more circuitous, but once you got through, you ended up covering a lot more ground than the typical "quick" learner. You're less likely to forget, too.

Cheers,

-M

 

[Mr.Rob]

I learned slow for two reasons from my point of view.

For one I started learning pickup in a town with really few options and relatively small abundance of women.

Back when I was grinding it out hard in daygame it would take me 4 hours driving around to 6 different stores plus the mall to meet 8 new girls.

I wasn't old enough to hit the clubs back then and have 10-20 new girls in a room to meet at my disposal like I typically do now.

The other reason I learned slow is just because I think it took me a while to get my vibe on point so it wasn't overly weird and off putting.

I'm a visual and a hands on learner and I would read Chase's material and it would make sense but I couldn't figure out the right vibe for what he was getting at.

Not until I started watching infield footage did I understand the proper vibe to put across and my results shot up immediately upon implementation.

From there it was cultivating my personality and my own style.

If I had the option to do it over again and have my results come faster I would opt out and go the longer, slower, harder route and here is why.

Coming from extreme scarcity and having to claw my way to the top (or away from the bottom since I wouldn't say I'm at the top) and having to go through tons of bullshit I know have a profound gratitude and appreciation for every girl I get to go on a naked vacation with.

If I would have grinded for 2-3 months and gotten laid it wouldn't mean as much to me and I wouldn't appreciate women, the grind, and the game of seduction as much as I currently do.

Honestly sometimes I wish it would've been harder so I'd appreciate it even more!

Don't look for the easy way out. Seek out the painful route. Become the strongest version of yourself.

-Rob

 

[Motiv]

That's an awesomely inspirational read, Rob.

Not until I started watching infield footage did I understand the proper vibe to put across and my results shot up immediately upon implementation.

Do you mind sharing any of your choice field footage?

From there it was cultivating my personality and my own style.

This part I get—relates heavily to my life long development as a concert musician. This is also a very liberating concept as well—frees us from worrying about memorizing routines and encourages creative approaching—way more fun IMO.

Don't look for the easy way out. Seek out the painful route.

Agreed 100%. That's why I chose fitness: systematically maxing out every aspect of sexiness I can possibly imagine. That's how I "be myself…"

Become the strongest version of yourself.

-Rob

This is what "be yourself" really means to a GC-man: I like it!

 

[Mr.Rob]

Do you mind sharing any of your choice field footage?

Not at all Mischief.

I started watching Sasha Daygame and the Natural Lifestyles (NaturalTV now) particularly Liam McRae's style I emulated for a while and I started getting much better receptions and interactions.

Then about a year and 3 months in I started getting into RSD and their infield really turned my world on it's head of what is possible along with the type of attitude I wanted to have (very polarizing, gangster, fearless, yet still being a man).

RSD is weird about infield footage because they only show small clips so you'll go to a HotSeat program and pay to watch it, however they have enough out to still get a decent idea of how they game.

Glad you liked my thoughts.