Daygaming at College (Thoughts and Issues so far)

[Paulie Walnuts]

Hey everyone! Been a bit since my last post, got a new job as a Buyers Agent on a Real Estate Team; learning the new career + school and obsessive gym going has been keeping me busy! I'm also still of course running game, I have dates set up for tonight, tomorrow night, Friday night and Sunday night from a combination of online pulls and daygaming .

Now that I'm back in school things have DEF become easier, however I have some issues so far. First discretion is not easy here, it's a relatively smallish community college campus; I guess there's a fair amount of students but I'm starting to see girls I've approached and been rejected by around school (or haven't texted back or w/e). I've seen a few of them chuckling about me (I don't really care tbh I still stay cordial and just wave and smile or w/e), I'm also taking some flak from some male students who consider themselves super good with girls (though when we were walking around campus they did ZERO approaches and I did almost 30 and that's just today).

What would you guys suggest for keeping discretion? Does it even matter if girls know that I do this on a regular basis? When I talked to a girl today that I approached before (saw her from the back didn't see the face till I'd already walked up to her) I just said I was working on my social/communication skills. What would you guys suggest for dealing with the guys? (They tried to embarrass me in front of a big group of people including a girl I'd approached who tried to friend zone me, though it was more just giving me shit, calling me "Drake" and laughing about how I hadn't gotten any numbers at that point and had done 8-9 approaches). What I said was "at least I have the balls to approach because I haven't seen you guys do shit!"

Also, is it really just a numbers game? Monday I did 5 approaches and got 3 numbers, (though they responded to the Ice Breaker, no dice on the dates/or no response), today I did almost 30 and got 2 numbers haha.

I'm sure word will get around school about what I'm doing, there will be haters I'm sure but that's just the name of the game yeah?

Last thing, I got a really hot teachers number (one of the 2) , will let you guys know how that goes! She looked like she was 20 (but 27), still can't believe I managed to pull it hahaha.

 

[Fuck This]

Discretion is at the opposite side of the spectrum from "Gamey". Girls can spot a salesman a mile away. Think how you interact with the sales demo guys at a warehouse store. you shut 'em down HARD from the get go when they ask you how you like your cable and internet. YOU know they are trying to sell you something and all you want to do is your food shopping for the week. That is how College campus is. She just wants to get to class, and some smooth talker rolls up on her like he is about to buy her a drink at the local meat market.

I'd be more indirect, and more conversational day gaming on campus. My most memorable college lay was a girl I said hello to walking to class 2 days a week for a semester. Met at a party and were in her bed an hour later. Now looking back, I could have approached her after a couple of passing hellos. But I would have built a comfort level prior.

The biggest poon hound in our house met all his conquests at another larger college campus 5 miles away. His cousin got a reputation there as a "Viper" among the sororities. Even those guys didn't shit where they ate on campus.

 

[Paulie Walnuts]

That's a good idea... I've been running straight direct game; I thought it was working pretty well till I got these shit results lol. I'm just worried about time wasters and girls tryna friend zone me or having a boyfriend (why I always go direct). Any tips for dealing with that?

I mean you're absolutely right, my results have been horrible to say the least, the one date I've gotten out of this so far cancelled on me today like 30 minutes before (and we'd rescheduled due to my work schedule once before). I almost wonder if a friend on campus had told her what I was doing, as I have a rather unique name. The rest of the numbers either didn't reply to the Ice Breaker or didn't reply to the date text.

 

[ray_zorse]

It's a difficult question with no straight answer. I go to a huge university with like 40,000 staff and students, it's basically like a small city and I think it would be hard to burn myself there. For a long time I did not do any approaches on campus though, because I was learning and wanted to push boundaries by doing risky stuff. However I have found it to be no worries whenever I have tried it (direct or indirect). So I think the issue is you need to improve your game to the point where you can reliably flirt, build connection and get the date. I think either you're not flirting enough (being a platonic buddy), or not building enough connection (uni students are interesting and there's loads of potential for deep diving and relating) or not asking for the date casually enough. Going direct is fine as long as you don't overdo it (compliment an article of her clothing, tell her she looks amazing today, but perhaps don't go with a generic opener such as "I noticed how cute you are and ..." because this might get around if you say it to multiple girls). However, going direct is a stepping stone, it is not enough to build attraction or express intent in & of itself. It needs to be backed up by your game. If you feel that you are taking too many risks then tone it down and go indirect etc as suggested already. If you feel you are taking not enough risks then practice game elsewhere until you are more confident. I suggest the street as the most anonymous place, and indoor shopping malls to boost your confidence gaming in less anonymous places that are enclosed and have security staff.
Ray

 

[Paulie Walnuts]

Thanks Ray! I think the issue would be the connection building, I'm still pulling out waaaaay too early. I need to force myself to push the interaction to a close (advice I've gotten before here too). I think that could be the issue, my fundamentals are def getting a lot better since I started reading and implementing the stuff I got here.

 

[normajean106]

Quick question. Whats up with the amateur wingmen? To me, that's like a professional asking for advice from a bunch of wannabe posers.

 

[Bboy100]

When you go to a bar or club or do Day game in a socially unconnected area like a mall, it really is a numbers game. Mainly because cold approach is your only real option. But on campus, its a little more complicated than that. Its always a little bit of a "numbers game" but context also plays a role now. Meeting a girl via Tinder VS Cold Approach VS being in the same class/club/organization VS being introduced by a friend will all yield drastically different results. On campus, these are all viable ways of meeting girls. As such, you need to make a decision for yourself whether or not you want to cold approach on campus. Me personally...I've decided that the collateral damage it causes to my ability to meet girls via all those other methods above has made it unappealing.

Having said that, that's just my personal situation. I go to a relatively small school, and while I'm there, it's my only outlet for meeting girls. You're in a big city, so your reputation in one particular place may not be as relevant. So I'm not saying cold approach on campus is a totally bad idea. Just be aware that you need to be tactful about it. You can't just walk around direct-opening everything with a vagina in a two mile radius. Instead, I would try this: https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-n ... d-get-laid

Also, here's a related article which might benefit you: https://www.girlschase.com/content/will- ... pick-girls

Edit: If you're interested in college life, I would recommend making some friends who know people at UW and get invited to parties over there. It yields the best of both worlds...you get to cold approach as much as you like, and you're assumed to be "not creepy" because parties are typically invite only. If you make friends with someone who goes to a good Frat at UW, you'll drown in pussy...cause you probably have a lot more experience and social intuition than the average collage frat boy (i.e. your competition is considerably weaker than at bars or clubs).

 

[Paulie Walnuts]

@normajean, I'm not really a pro, I'm still a beginner; so I'm trying to learn new tactics from as many people as possible. Though I need to be a bit more selective on who's around me!

@BBoy, I'm gonna check out both of those articles (actually gotta take off for a date here in just a sec), but yeah I'm thinkin UW is the way to go. I like the idea of cold approaching as much as I want with no rep hit!

 

[Smith]

I get warmer response when I cold approach on campus...I know I probably have built up a reputation because one girl I approached a few months ago knew my name before I even introduced myself, but she was flattered though, so I guess I've made a good impression on most girls. Clubs and other activities are a great way to meet girls too, but in my opinion, you can't move fast like you can with cold approach. I go to a 20,000 student campus.

 

[Estate]

Personal opinion time but I sort of cringe when I hear about college guys constantly "runining game" on campus... a few reasons.

I've seen it when I was in college. College is it's own little world. You might not know everyone but you cross the same faces a lot, people tend to hang out in their own particular area a lot with their friends. I've seen the same guys ALWAYS hang around the Quad or outside the library, or whereever jus hassling girls EVERY DAY! The problem is... everyone sees it... now you're "that guy" everyone knows(in a bad way).

Now, there's nothing wrong with talking to a girl you come across as you leave a class, at the caff, walking across campus or whatever, but meet them as you go about your day. It's normal and natural to meet people that way.

I just cringe at being the guy who's there at the same time, same place, every day, that everyone knows as the creepy dude who's approaching the same girls.

I also never really understand why guys in college HAVE to just stick to the same place on campus. Aren't most college campuses in or around a city/town? Why do students just never want to leave campus? When I was in college it was about a 10 minute walk into the city center and where I'm from it was just normal to come and go. But students nowdays have this obsession that they must live on campus (no matter the cost), eat, breath, drink, life exclusively on campus. Isn't that just limiting your oppertunities for EVERYTHING? Not just talking game here.

I guess it applies to anywhere. For example in Boston, I see the same guys ALL THE TIME at the weekend. The same guys on Newbury every weekend, the same guys in Faneuil Hall ever weekend, the same guys around Harvard Square every weekend. And I know women who have seen them and been approached by them too.... it comes off odd.


You know... the "PUA" approach???
While it's pretty normal to strike up a low key conversation in line for coffee... these guys stand around the square or street, eyeing everyone who comes by looking all depressed... then there's the little huddle and one of them SPRINTS up to a girl, trying to do the Mystery "over the shoulder" thing but since he's come from behind her at such a rate, she gets totally freaked out and surprised by him and now everyone in the vicinity feels very awkward and even concerned for the girls safety..... its weird man.

 

[normajean106]

@Estate

Perhaps but try not to be too critical. After all, they most likely lack the know-how to get connected with girls and strike up relationships.

Sometimes I think that men who are "good with women" tend to forget that they either were in better positions and had more opportunities than the "cold approach creeps" to build their skills, or that they were once novices and forget what it was like to be truly desperate for women.

So, yeah its creepy as all get out when some weirdo starts popping out of nowhere and scares the daylight out of some poor girl, but I understand that they are doing it because they lack the skills and abilities to connect with a girl at all.

EDIT: [This is in reference to the last paragraph you wrote.]

 

[Hector Papi Castillo]

I did direct day-game more times than I can count on a campus of 7,000 students. My school was also in the middle of fucking nowhere.

Did everyone hear about it? Yes.

Did it stop me from getting laid? Not really. Lots of girls said no, but quite a few others said yes.

I was "that guy," but was also the most known dude on campus, no question. Got invited to tons of parties, hungout with multiple fraternities, was considered an honorary member by a few of them, etc.

If you think there's rules, they can be broken. It's really just a matter of testicular size and the amount of shit-talking you can handle.

On the other hand, I have been doing this a long time, so some beginner doing it, well, very likely he'll be creepy dawg to most of the girls. But hey, fuck everybody that isn't you. This is your world.

Hector

 

[Paulie Walnuts]

@Anatman, I love that shit! I am still a beginner, however I haven't creeped any of the girls out or anything. They always seem flattered and if I get rejected I just leave and say "glad I could put a smile on your face!" I still think it'd help if I practiced my skills elsewhere though. Idk all the rejection has just been rough on my mindset, gotta build that emotional armor up, I know I have the skills somewhere deep inside of me; just gotta bring it out and overcome the fear which makes me eject early from interactions and try to number close.

@everyone else, thank y'all for the advice! I'm still building my skills the best I can, it's been a little rough with the amount of rejection; but I can't lie, there's been far more success doing cold approach then when I was just expecting girls to come to me!