@average_daygamer,
Guys, come on, this is completely off topic now. I can understand 1 or 2 unrelated posts, but this is taking the Mickey. Chase, feel free to lock this thread, peace.
Seemed like you had this concern:
I also read another post on here that says, in your 30s, you have to choice between hot girls and eating nice food, which I didn't like, because I enjoy eating nice food but still want to get laid with a girl at least once. But it gives me a feeling that the "walls are closing in" which I didn't like so I panicked and made this thread
Then got a bunch of replies reassuring you that nope, not the case at all!
No one's making fun at all. Guys are having a good discussion about diet and physique -- one that you kicked off (so props)!
@504,
Chaseboss is RIPPED af

Actually even at this body weight I still have some visible fat over my abs.
I'd probably have to drop another 10 lbs. to have chiseled abs (or, like, get my abs way more ripped, I guess).
I can maintain this present weight pretty easily but I'd likely need to reduce carbs/desserts a lot to cut that lean.
At least right now, I lack the motivation to take it that far
@James D,
Doesn't working out help with boosting your metabolism though?
It does. There are also tricks you can do like "work out in the morning on an empty stomach and don't eat anything for at least an hour" so you burn as much fat as possible.
The effect is not as big as you'd expect for hard workouts though. When I was in college I was lifting hard all the time and running my ass off on the treadmill but I could not lose weight no matter what I did (I was eating too much).
I can look back over the years at times I was exercising hard vs. not exercising at all and there's no correlation between fat weight gain/loss. But eating less/more, there is always a CRYSTAL CLEAR relationship between that and fat loss/gain.
If you ask me the #1 thing you can do physically if you want to keep fat weight off is to walk.
The times I was fattest were when I was working a sedentary job, driving everywhere, and yes, I was lifting weights, but I wasn't really walking much. I try to walk everywhere now. If there's an escalator, I walk up and down the escalator, or just skip the escalator and take the stairs. (Bonus points: get women to walk with you. Breaks them out of their lazy habits + instant compliance. Just tell them "Bruce Lee took the stairs -- so can we!")
One of my friends who's historically been in great shape had put some fat weight on. He was lifting, doing Cross-Fit, etc., but couldn't shed it. Then he started a walking challenge (he'd go walking for like 60-90 minutes straight... I have days where I walk that much or more, but it's split throughout the day) and a lot of the weight melted right off.
@ChrisXKiss,
I’m confused.
I’ve been around this weight at the same height most of my life and always looked visibly skinny.
I thought I’d need at least 10 more kilos to look conventionally good.
Am I missing something?
Because if being bigger than this doesn’t provide a lot of returns seduction wise, I don’t even care about it honestly.
Depends on muscle mass.
I lifted for a decade from 17-27. Have had stints in the gym since then but mostly do calisthenics now (
Convict Conditioning).
Never got as big as some dudes did but I have visible muscles. I don't know if I'm any bigger now than I was when younger but I've gained in strength some.
If I was this weight without muscles I'd probably be skinny. No one thinks I'm skinny though... I get compliments from women on my physique, etc. (at least when my clothes are off).
I say this as a "skinny kid" all through my childhood and teenage years. "Skinny" was the word I heard over and over again... got called it constantly by the guys in the shop once I started doing auto work. Went away to school for a year, lifted my ass off, came back a year later and had guys in the shop saying, "WHOA! Chase got RIPPED!" (I didn't even realize anyone would notice... felt like I wasn't that big... but I guess there's a big difference between 'skinny' vs. 'has some muscles').
As far as returns seduction-wise, muscles are definitely a plus, but they're also a definitely "not gonna seduce girls all on their own" type of thing. As I've discussed, you will see lots of jacked dudes with fat/ugly chicks; big dudes who are lonely or struggling with girls; etc.
Many guys think giant muscles are the key to getting laid. But are they? Do hulking muscles turn you into a babe magnet… or are their effects subtler and more nuanced than this? We had a commentator asking me the other day why I don't talk about physique more. He thought it was because maybe if...
www.girlschase.com
Will Gupta also had a good article on it here:
When I was seventeen I overdosed on cocaine. I weighed 107 pounds and was 5'9" - needless to say, I was skinny. It's been eight years since that event and I now weigh 165 pounds and am around 7-8% body fat. I have been asked to be a fitness model and to competitively powerlift. My journey from...
www.girlschase.com
The Bony-to-Beastly article is probably the best for understanding body type vs. sexual appeal:
We surveyed 423 women, having them pick the male body types they found most attractive. Muscularity, leanness, proportions, and more.
bonytobeastly.com
Women's preferred male body type, according to the survey:
So yeah, if you are in the "Skinny" range, you want to move more into the "Athletic" range -- then you are good.
Chase