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qgb524

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I am 19 and I finally worked up the courage to move forward with a girl. (This being my first real date) All we have done for the past month is text and that's how I asked her. What keeps running thru my head is, did I ask the right or wrong question. I asked her if she wanted to hang out. I didn't want to put any kind of pressure on her thinking it was a date but she did say yes. Being from small country towns, I asked her if she'd go back roading with me and she said "okay lol". Because of my inexperience, I don't know if this is good or bad. I feel like I'm worrying about this too much but I like her a lot and I don't want to lose her. We already know a lot about each other and as far as I can tell, I haven't been friendzoned.

Do any of yall have suggestions on how to make things happen with her. How can I show her that I like her and get her to feel the same way.
 

ray_zorse

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Uhh, well firstly if you've been texting her for a month without asking her out, then you are very much invested, and you haven't had sex. So that's a recipe for problems. By all means go ahead and move forward with her, but do not be disappointed if it does not go the way you hope. In that case just ask another girl out without investing so much first. The problem with your current situation is you're thinking "I really like this girl and I don't want to mess it up" = "I've invested a lot in this girl and gotten nothing much yet, I want to get a return on my investment". This makes it very hard to play it cool, be a bit aloof and see where it goes and not worry too much either way -- what often happens is that we try too hard to engage her, qualify ourselves, we're nervous on the date, etc. As long as you watch out for these problems and correct accordingly, you'll be okay.

Anyway, you might be friendzoned or you might not. It really depends how much she liked you in the first place. If she wasn't too sold on you but decided to give you a chance, and has subsequently discovered you have a lot of friend value and not much lover value, you might be in trouble. If she really liked you from the first meeting, then you might have disqualified yourself as a lover but still qualify as a boyfriend. In that case, expect her to put up a lot of resistance to sex on the first date, and to make you work quite hard to bed her. As a novice that's not really a bad thing, it just means you have to take her on some more dates etc. But what would you be doing anyway... sitting at home? So no problem. I suggest you read this article on date compression, and put it in your toolkit, just in case it turns out you need it.

The way you asked her out was perfect. Ultra casual, it's just a hangout... when you get to a more advanced level you'll be able to ask her out in this ultra casual way, and still have her understand that you're very sexually interested (through your body language), the risk you take at a more novice level is she might think it's just a friendly hangout. For example if something is a "study date" she might take it literally and then be upset and surprised when you go to kiss her. So as a novice it can be better to make your intentions more explicit, but I wouldn't sweat it. The best kind of dates are hangouts in which "sex just happens". In this case. from what you've said, I think she'd have to at least have the possibility in her mind that you might be planning to escalate, so you're in pretty good shape here. Just go on the date, build connection with her (by talking and expanding on the subjects you've already discussed, and having good body language and eye contact etc)... and try to get her alone.

It sounds like you'll already be alone, because you'll be backroading... so all that remains is to kiss her, if that's a problem she'll let you know, but otherwise assume attraction. Go in confidently and you'll be golden ;) How you work it exactly, is something you should think about ahead of time, like maybe pack a picnic and pull over somewhere remote to eat, and kiss her then? I would probably try to do this in the first half-hour or so, if you wait too long she may go cold and put up lots of resistance.

Ray
 

qgb524

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I did ask on a high point in our conversation and we continued to talk for a while after that.
 
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I'm not sure if this is too late , but just some notes on meeting with her. Have a rough outline in your head for what your going to do , what I've done with most of my meetups with girls from cold approach is have food with them and then take them somewhere more quiet to escalate. When you get to the stage where your alone with her , that's when you can find how she views you whether your'e in the bf slot or friendzoned. Test her for compliance and if she goes for it she likes you. So first sit sit right next to her then find ways to touch her hands , like a bracelet or maybe look at her nails , thumb wrestle can work. Then maybe ask if she is ticklish and then go tickle her on her stomach(I know a lot of this isn't really sexual but it helped me get more comfortable with being physically close to girls). If she is cool with all of this then try something more like move her hair to see her ear rings , after a girl complies with all of that then I'd usually try to kiss her. Don't be too hard on yourself if you don't get through all of it , its pretty hard to overcome your anxiety if this is your first date ever so even if you just sit right next to her you're making progress.

Good luck :)

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I agree with Ray on the picnic idea. I was raised a country boy also. There is plenty of places to be alone. Bring a blanket to lay on. If she thinks she will get her clothes dirty she may resist. Remember she has to protect her reputation. She will think if I get my clothes dirty people will know I had sex. Also bring condoms. You may think this is assuming to much but if you get lucky you don't want to become baby daddy. You may feel stupid doing this but practice putting one on. Better to learn before hand then when you are in the throws of passion.

Another thing if you do get lucky this will be your first time. Expect to cum quickly. This is not a disaster if you are prepared. When you do just pull out. Take off the condom. Wipe yourself clean with a towel and put on a new condom. If you are like I was at 19 you will get hard again right away. You will then last a long time. If she says anything or looks dejected just say, don't worry and kiss her to keep contact. As long as you are touching her she will stay excited. Keep the towel and condoms close so you don't have to break away to get them.

On last thing. Do not I repeat do not act needed. If you act needed she will reject you. You have to be the alpha male. Being needy puts her in control which she does not want. You must be in control without being demanding. Always use statement not questions. "I brought a picnic.
Lets stop here for a bite to eat." not Do you want to eat something? Make the statements firm suggestion not commands.

Here is something I wish someone had told me before my first time. If you get to the point of kissing, stop talking. You will need to move her forward through actions. Kiss her mouth until she is relaxed. Then move to her neck. Follow down her neck to her chest. If there is no or little resistance take off her top. This is where is gets really hard for your first time. Play with her breast but just for a little while like maybe 30 seconds or less than one minute. Then move down her stomach at a reasonable pace. Get to her pants and kiss on down her pants to her crouch. If there is no resistance take of both her pants and panties at the same time. Once you have her pants off kiss her legs and pussy. Then take off your pants and put the condom on. Immediately penetrate her with a couple of strokes. This establishes you as her lover and alpha male. If she is a virgin you will need to penetrate so slowly. It is a good idea to use lubrication if she is. If you do not have any just use spit. If she is a virgin she may bleed some. This is natural. Do not freak out. Okay now that you have been inside of her you can do as you wish. She is under your command. You can finger her, eat her pussy, play with her tits or kiss some more. Then go back inside her.

I hope I didn't' freak you out.
 

HellAtlantic

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BigDaddy: that post was awesome! I'm basically gonna print it out and give to my son when he becomes a teenager cuz word for word it's perfect lol. Bravo!
 
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