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Dern

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So I've been obsessed with this girl from my social circle for like the past week now. I met her a few weeks back, so we've partied together like 4-5 times already. She would call me sexy d and shit since my first name starts with d. Should've made a move then, but stupid me was still deciding whether I liked her or not. Therefore, I am fucking scared that I have been friend zoned and she has gone cold on me. Sounds sorta stupid, but for me, over time, she's just sort of grown on me. It's fucked because it has been like a year and a half since I've actually been obsessed with a girl. And that was before I stumbled upon GC. Since then, I have been practicing cold approach day game. I see a girl I like, I get rejected by her, and never see her again. That is why right now, I'm thinking that social circle is poisonous. I mean, I fuck up with a girl, and I still see her. How the fuck would I ever get over that? Plus, at first when I saw her, I didn't think much of her. But the more you see someone, the more you get to know them, the more you like them. Interestingly, in psychology, this is called the mere-exposure effect. Anyways, so I knew I had to make a move on this girl quick. I've actually have had zero one on one time with this girl, and it's hard to isolate her because the parties we go to are small. So tonight, it was Friday, and I'm going to sushi with a guy and three girls from my social circle. It doesn't matter that I'm spending time with these girls because I know that I will always see them as just friends. Plus, one of the girls is good friends with this chick that I'm crushing on. So as we're leaving the residence, this chick that I like walks past us. We open her, I'm like: "aahhh, look who it iiis" very sarcastically and teasingly. Anyways, the group tells her what we're up to, and we proceed back to doing what we were doing.

1. Fuck up? Chasing?

I immediately think: "this is a chance, don't be a pussy."
So I turn around, and lightly jog up to her. I tell her that she should come drink with us later. She asks, "where?" I sort of fuck up with voice tone here saying: "my room..." as if drinking in my room was lame. She responds: "I don't feel like drinking tonight. I have to go to Kamloops tomorrow morning. But if I get bored, I'll call you or Kyle."

Wow.

"But if I get bored, I'll call you or Kyle."

Fuck. How she phrased that totally just shifted the power frame towards her side.

She ends up meeting up with us later as we're all going to a party (more like a gathering of 15-20 people).

So I'm thinking I fucked up because I acted needy by chasing after her to invite her to drink at mine, when she ended up meeting up with us anyways.

At the same time, I knew that tonight was going to be the night that I stopped being such a pussy, that's why I did it.

2. Fuck up? Failing the shit test?

So I'm in a circle with this chick and three other guys. And this chick says something like: "I'm not a loser *pause* unlike these two" *points to me and Kyle*

I give her a playful shove here, and she laughs. I return to the convo, but I realize that there's three guys talking to one chick, so I leave and talk to some other people.

So did I fuck up here by giving her a playful shove? Did this come across as too reactive? I just reviewed Chase's article on the law of least effort, and he says that when a girl tests you like that, you should just give her a skeptical look, smile slightly like she's cute and silly and just return to whatever you were doing before.

3. Fuck up? Not isolating?

So at the beginning of the party, we could tell it wasn't the most bumpin, so the chick tells me that we should look for something else. To that, I was just like: "want to go for a walk?" She said no. I obviously didn't expect her to say "yes," since her emotions were low then. I should've tried being like: "yeah, let's go look for something," but she probably would've been like wanting to get our friends to go with us. I dunno, maybe I'm just not assuming attraction by thinking like that. But yeah, that was my first attempt to isolate. After that, I just fucking pussied out and did not make another attempt to isolate. Although I did touch her every opportunity I got during the party and maintained a very playful vibe. I wanted to get her to sit with me, but the couch was never available, only these one-seaters were. And I was a fucking pussy, I thought things like: "she won't sit on my lap," "she won't sit on the armrest" (while I sit in the actual seat lol).

But this is my biggest concern right now. So at a party, you're always interacting with at least one person (unless you're a loner and stand alone in the corner). So this chick is always interacting with at least one person. So, how do you isolate her and get her to break circle? Going up to her and saying something like: "come sit with me," is way too fucking oblivious. I was thinking something like: touching her elbow, waiting for her to look at you, turning your head to meet her eyes, then signalling with your index finger "come here" while you step back. I dunno guys, how do you get a girl to break circle in the most discrete way possible?

Anyways, the fact that I am so into this chick is scaring the shit outta me. I'm worried that I have already lost the battle solely because of the fact that I am obsessed with her. Like I was conversing with other people tonight, but my mind was elsewhere: on her. I left the party before she did, and I was so fucking relieved to find out later from my friend, that she didn't go home with anyone. Like wtf!? Why do I have this white knight mentality? It's driving me nuts, and I'm going insane guys.
 

Rage

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Hey Dern,

Pretty much this exact thing happened to me today (and has happened in the past); and yeah I’ve been coming to the conclusion that social circles poisonous and sort of taking away from your progress/skill of cold approach (wrote about it here in my journal viewtopic.php?f=15&t=7883 )

The milf I wrote about is incredibly hot with fake tits and killer body… and was super into me and wet for me when I first had met her. But the conclusion I’ve been coming to is that I should treat it as the same thing as a cold approach (just on to the next girl).

So you have to see her again … so what? I’ve been facing this same sticking point and what I decided I’m gonna do about it and what would probably be most prudent for me to do about it would be to just forget about her, be polite if run into each other but other than that just do my own thing. I’m going to only cold approach new girls that end up coming into my social circle (which is the gym) … and I’ll get preselection through any new girls I meet and move things forward with in the social circle.

And even if the girl was super fucking hot, well tough there are still other girls like her out there.

Anyways, the fact that I am so into this chick is scaring the shit outta me. I'm worried that I have already lost the battle solely because of the fact that I am obsessed with her. Like I was conversing with other people tonight, but my mind was elsewhere: on her. I left the party before she did, and I was so fucking relieved to find out later from my friend, that she didn't go home with anyone. Like wtf!? Why do I have this white knight mentality? It's driving me nuts, and I'm going insane guys.

This only happens in social circle… exact thing happened to me this morning, I was nervous talking to the girl! And in my head I was like “what the fuck I never get nervous!” and it wasn’t even being that into the girl but just that you're seeing her regularly and get a chance to sort of visualize her as more value/hotter than she really is, same reason as narrated in this article https://www.girlschase.com/content/why-t ... ting-women

So what I’m going to do, and what I’d suggest, is probably just forget her and move on to the next chick/other chicks not in social circle. If anything does happen this girl it will be after you’ve moved on and she's seen you doing well with other girls and then she maybe comes back and conveys interest at which point you just have to move fast right at that moment (before attraction dies again and you get into that “maybe we’re friends maybe something more” shitty gray area).

Good Luck Bro!

-Gem
 

Smith

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Hey Dern,

Read ur journal a few days ago, and yea it sucks to move into a smaller city, where there's less women. I totally understand your pain man, but cold approach still works better than social circle I can guarantee you that! Like Gem said, it's probably better to just stop contact with her, or it's gonna drain your energy to cold approach and most importantly waste your time.

So at the beginning of the party, we could tell it wasn't the most bumpin, so the chick tells me that we should look for something else. To that, I was just like: "want to go for a walk?" She said no. I obviously didn't expect her to say "yes,"

I think using a command here is better than asking. "Well I know exactly where to go ;)" then lead her by the hand. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lccsUMC4U0 Nick Spark - a video about college and sex - should be helpful for you ;)

Keep on pimping man

- Smith
 
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