Difficult women or attention whore?

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Dude she's got the entire frame and you're just her entertainment.

You have to re-establish your frame, by asserting the things you like and don't like, what you will accept and not accept. She might not accept it, but remember when they say you have to be willing to walk away, that means WILLING to walk away, not just pretending.

When a woman says 'that's just part of my personality' when it's something obviously unpleasant, that means it's a) a shit test b) she literally doesn't care or 3) she's a mess, none of which are good for you, and none of which can be solved by accepting the frame.
Moment thats not what she said I translated it wrong. I thought I was low in attainability where she said I’m excited whether you get answer to this, so I gave her an compliment in a non chalant way, because I thought she said because i Teased her a lot before and got kinda cold vibes from her. At this point she also kept things ambiguous trying to make me jealous. After I made the compliment She responded with aww cute and that she didn’t feel offended. But that’s also where I grabbed the frame with a statement (push statement, by being ambiguous like she does it sometimes out of fun and redirecting the compliment, so simply taking away the validation) and stopped responding to her because I felt manipulated. She is extremely good in keeping things ambiguous, but still didn’t give me her schedule after the compliment.
 
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She finally sent me her schedule and also asked whether I’m free this weekend. I assume asking for schedule the weekend is probably high interest? I set up the date for Sunday hopefully she doesn’t flake.

it seems like the best thing what you can do is ask her out, if she doesn’t give in to it text a bit and ask her out again smoothly and then stop replying(I think it’s also good to show them that you understand the game can play it as well or can play it better like I did. Showed her I can and left her at the high point). She also keeps sending pictures of herself btw

my question : is she chasing me when she keeps sending pictures of herself and I never reply to them? Should I compliment her on her pics until the date? Feel like withholding validation would increase the likelihood for her not flaking
 
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She finally sent me her schedule and also asked whether I’m free this weekend. I assume asking for schedule the weekend is probably high interest? I set up the date for Sunday hopefully she doesn’t flake.
Groovy, then that's good. However try to set up the location and exact time yourself to maintain some leading. In addition, try to stay in the leadership position during the date

Keep an eye out for other signs of attention whoring
it seems like the best thing what you can do is ask her out, if she doesn’t give in to it text a bit and ask her out again smoothly and then stop replying(I think it’s also good to show them that you understand the game can play it as well or can play it better like I did. Showed her I can and left her at the high point). She also keeps sending pictures of herself btw
Not sure what this is in relation too? You've already got a date scheduled, don't worry about it. And it's only a few days away
my question : is she chasing me when she keeps sending pictures of herself and I never reply to them? Should I compliment her on her pics until the date? Feel like withholding validation would increase the likelihood for her not flaking
No, she's chasing your attention. Big difference. If she's put in some effort to see you in person then you can vaguely qualify her if she sends more pics. Something like a like on the picture (I'm not on Snapchat and haven't for years so I dunno if you can or not like you can in other message platforms). Or just type out 'nice' and leave it at that


Again, can't stress enough though: I typically avoid women like this
 

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Groovy, then that's good. However try to set up the location and exact time yourself to maintain some leading. In addition, try to stay in the leadership position during the date

Keep an eye out for other signs of attention whoring

Not sure what this is in relation too? You've already got a date scheduled, don't worry about it. And it's only a few days away

No, she's chasing your attention. Big difference. If she's put in some effort to see you in person then you can vaguely qualify her if she sends more pics. Something like a like on the picture (I'm not on Snapchat and haven't for years so I dunno if you can or not like you can in other message platforms). Or just type out 'nice' and leave it at that


Again, can't stress enough though: I typically avoid women like this
i don’t quiet understand this with attention. It would be even enough for women when you just look at her pictures she is sending? that would be sufficient for them? Is that also validating them?
Or let’s say you are walking away from a girl, because she behaved disrespectful or whatever the case, would you stop watching her stories, open her snaps. Literally ghost her until she apologise or how does that work
 

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I haven’t used snapchat for a while. You can take pictures and send them to a bunch of people pretty easily. If her snap scores high that’s an easy indication. 50,000 > is high (means that’s how many pictures she’s sent and received).

She sounds young to me, sending pictures to a bunch of contacts is a pretty common way to inflate your score

Unless her snaps are directly tailored to you I wouldn’t take them as a sign of interest, and they definitely don’t always have to be responded to. They aren’t a sign of interest on that platform.
 

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I haven’t used snapchat for a while. You can take pictures and send them to a bunch of people pretty easily. If her snap scores high that’s an easy indication. 50,000 > is high (means that’s how many pictures she’s sent and received).

She sounds young to me, sending pictures to a bunch of contacts is a pretty common way to inflate your score

Unless her snaps are directly tailored to you I wouldn’t take them as a sign of interest, and they definitely don’t always have to be responded to. They aren’t a sign of interest on that platform.
She is 19 and her snap score is around 7k. Yeah you can see whether her snap is a chain snap or just for you by the Color of it. Red means only for you and purple means group. She sends them mostly only to me, there were only 2 circumstances where she sent a chain snap but that’s where she wanted to make me jealous, probably because I don’t watch her stories or reply very late, obviously also to test
 

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She is 19 and her snap score is around 7k. Yeah you can see whether her snap is a chain snap or just for you by the Color of it. Red means only for you and purple means group. She sends them mostly only to me, there were only 2 circumstances where she sent a chain snap but that’s where she wanted to make me jealous, probably because I don’t watch her stories or reply very late, obviously also to test
Red means its a picture or a video with no audio, purple means it’s a video, or a series of videos with audio

not trying to burst your bubble

there’s no way to know how many people a snap has been sent to, the only real way to know is if it was tailored to you specifically
 

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Red means its a picture or a video with no audio, purple means it’s a video, or a series of videos with audio

not trying to burst your bubble

there’s no way to know how many people a snap has been sent to
thats wrong because I tested it out. You shouldn’t believe everything what the internet states. Test it out yourself
 

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i don’t quiet understand this with attention. It would be even enough for women when you just look at her pictures she is sending?
If she has a date schedule = it's not enough, but you don't want to go too far which is easy to do

If a date isn't scheduled then just don't speak to her or respond to her pictures
that would be sufficient for them? Is that also validating them?
Or let’s say you are walking away from a girl, because she behaved disrespectful or whatever the case, would you stop watching her stories, open her snaps. Literally ghost her until she apologise or how does that work
If I'm walking away from a girl then I'm done with her. I completely delete her out of everything. She's dead to me until she reaches out to revive herself. That's just me though
 

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If she has a date schedule = it's not enough, but you don't want to go too far which is easy to do

If a date isn't scheduled then just don't speak to her or respond to her pictures

If I'm walking away from a girl then I'm done with her. I completely delete her out of everything. She's dead to me until she reaches out to revive herself. That's just me though
Those snaps are honestly annoying I’d want to stop her from sending me these. I also noticed that she is doing that so I mentally invest in her, but don’t know whether she is aware of that. All of her snaps contains subcommunication, you feel talked down to and she is extremely ambivalent. I read in one of the GC articles that if a woman is sub communicating a lot she is probably highly sexually attracted, don’t know whether that is really true since I never paid attention to that before
 

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Those snaps are honestly annoying I’d want to stop her from sending me these. I also noticed that she is doing that so I mentally invest in her, but don’t know whether she is aware of that. All of her snaps contains subcommunication, you feel talked down to and she is extremely ambivalent. I read in one of the GC articles that if a woman is sub communicating a lot she is probably highly sexually attracted, don’t know whether that is really true since I never paid attention to that before
Listen man, I'm not sure about the sub communication you're talking about but from the sounds of it, it might be better for you to block her at this point

She's got you in such a tizzy that I don't see you wrangling her into bed. Though I've given the best advice that I'm able to I just don't see it happening. Especially since you mentioned she was an online girl

Here's a few things about women most of the time to keep in mind:

1) the only paying attention to what they do advice from earlier
2) jerking off before texting women (ESPECIALLY when you're this emotionally invested)
3) and women who are into you make it fairly straightforward to get together. Some exceptions apply but I don't like those types of women so I can't say much else on that


A woman could be hardcore flirting with you, or playing hot and cold or whatever. But if you make a move forward does she step with you or against you?

It sounds like she's stepping against you. Although you mentioned you had a date set up with her if I remember correctly. In which case, I'm not sure what you're trying to ask about or why you're getting so emotional about it (and at the very least you sound like you're getting emotional about it). Just wait. Or better yet go approach some other women in the mean time

EDIT: regarding a woman reaching out to you, that's one of two things:
1) a bid for connection (we like these)
2) a bid for attention (we should discourage these)

Both can be annoying in how often they come up but the way to differentiate the two is this:
Are you getting compliance and moving things forward or not?

If the answer is 'not' then it's probably just attention whoring
 

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Listen man, I'm not sure about the sub communication you're talking about but from the sounds of it, it might be better for you to block her at this point

She's got you in such a tizzy that I don't see you wrangling her into bed. Though I've given the best advice that I'm able to I just don't see it happening. Especially since you mentioned she was an online girl

Here's a few things about women most of the time to keep in mind:

1) the only paying attention to what they do advice from earlier
2) jerking off before texting women (ESPECIALLY when you're this emotionally invested)
3) and women who are into you make it fairly straightforward to get together. Some exceptions apply but I don't like those types of women so I can't say much else on that


A woman could be hardcore flirting with you, or playing hot and cold or whatever. But if you make a move forward does she step with you or against you?

It sounds like she's stepping against you. Although you mentioned you had a date set up with her if I remember correctly. In which case, I'm not sure what you're trying to ask about or why you're getting so emotional about it (and at the very least you sound like you're getting emotional about it). Just wait. Or better yet go approach some other women in the mean time

EDIT: regarding a woman reaching out to you, that's one of two things:
1) a bid for connection (we like these)
2) a bid for attention (we should discourage these)

Both can be annoying in how often they come up but the way to differentiate the two is this:
Are you getting compliance and moving things forward or not?

If the answer is 'not' then it's probably just attention whoring
here some information about her desire:

This may damage some of the trust in the relationship, but her visceral response is to mate-guard. If you handle her correctly — if you know “game” — her anxiety will translate into arousal.

Anxiety creates tension, which is energy, which is very often experienced as sexual desire. It’s why creating tension and even “discomfort” very often leads to physical escalation. And it’s why horror films are notoriously good for scoring on dates.

(Indeed, this is why pornographic sites start with some vanilla, even tasteful nudes and evolve into some seriously disturbing imagery. It’s not that guys “like” this gross stuff but as they experience anxiety, it becomes interpreted as arousal. Once they release to it, a pattern is developed. Psychological priming 101.)
source: patstedman

No she is being genuine with her desires the whole time that’s what she also said to me that horror film create fear/anxiety and that exactly that what turns her on. She acted like a lover all the time and I think she wants me to frame as one even though if I weren’t one. It could be that she wants me as a lover. You know some women bait some nice guys them into behaving like bad boys or a player even though they aren’t one, because they find it attractive and want more of it. It’s the same here but the only thing what matters is if she is really seeing me as one, if not she then played me very well by feeding my ego through portraying us as lovers, because that’s what I want! I played her with the mindset that I want her as a lover.
Damn big mistake how can I prevent this next time?
I think I was less of a mysterious guy and she figured me out somehow and used it against me. Terrible if she flakes I’ll have my answer
 

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If I remember right you haven't even met her yet. None of that is even relevant towards online game
 

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I was successful. We hooked up only after 30mins and we are officially lovers now. We also talked about trying to have sex in public places because of the danger to get caught but also because of the excitement at the same time. I think I’ll work on bdsm gambit as well and see what she will think about that. She was extremely clingy on our first date which I don’t understand since she is very beautiful a solid 8 in my eyes. She was definitely very desperate to want my D. How likely is it that a woman finds a lover who at least has a bit of knowledge about GC stuff or being a lover in general and so on? I’d say it shouldn’t be a problem for them because of dating apps and the countless options they have. So I don’t quiet understand her thirstiness since I can’t believe I have a solid game where a woman would behave like that for me.

that and one thing that still annoys me is her still sending me snaps and I slowly find that extremely unattractive. I’d want to put some boundaries here but I feel like it would come across as weird
 

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