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Hi,
I have this sticking point. Kind of a luxury problem but a very frustrating one nonetheless. I'm meeting hot girls very regularly, getting numbers, getting them on dates, pulling them home within a short time, escalating on them... Great!
However, I am losing a lot of girls in the endgame. I am persisting up to the point they either spread or leave, and when they leave because they think 'it's too soon', IMO they backwards rationalize that they rejected my advances because there must have been something wrong with me. Although my escalation might need some work (although I think it's pretty decent), I hope to get some better results by firmly disqualifying myself as a boyfiend to begin with.
I've mentioned this on here before but for context: I am a 32 your old good looking Dutch man living in Paris, France. I've been gaming (obsessively) since 1 1/2 years with a 4 month break to have a comitted relationship, which I ended 3 months ago. Before my 4 month relationship I had sex with a new girl every month, which I found decent for a beginner but given the time I spent, and spend on gaming it should be much better... and it's going to be
I've done lots of night game before but my game now consists of street approaches where I get the number in 1 to 3 minutes. I only approach the hotties and I would say I get the number in 1/3 of my approaches. My fundamentals are excellent (tractor beam eyecontact, voice tone and projection (I used to be a singer), body language (me and my wings videotape each other to check this and improve) and fashion / style (my ex was a fashion designer and I have a full wardrobe from France's top fashion house), also I am very modest lol.
Although I am making a sub-modal amout of money and living in a room in a shared appartment, I have developed an excellent sense of style and, although it might sound rediculous, I own over $100K worth of clothing. I am not bragging here, I just want to show you guys the specifics of my situation. I guess guys in their 30s who make a good living and own a nice appartment will run into the same issues I do. I think the girls I go for, around 20yo, don't give that much of a f*ck about being provided for.... To parade me around as a BF however, would make a lo of them very happy, not to mention the general value an educated man in his prime could provide for such a girl... No wonder they have their own agendas.
So for my situation I have come up with a few things I could use in my defence against being BF-zoned. I think some of these might work better than others, but I'll just list them in hopes you guys could brainstorm with me:
*1) I could insinuate that I am very busy, too busy to have a GF in my life.
*2) I could insinuate that I have a GF.
*3) I could insinuate that I only date women my own age.
*4) I could insinuate that although I'm expensively dressed, that I don't make money.
*5) I could insinuate that I am an expatriate here and that I'll be leaving the country in a few weeks.
Of these, I have been using the first one on my last 5 dates (of which I had sex with 2, and didn't see the others again). It's a double edged sword however, as suggesting you're very busy while looking like you have lots of money kinda screams 'provider', and that's the whole problem with my game I guess. Again, I don't want to brag but all of my buddies notice me getting very high levels of attraction very soon into interactions. Which is very nice, getting good reactions, but in the end, quite literally, I'm still left with my d*ck in my hand
I've seen atricles about disqualifying oneself as a BF where Chase also mentions number 2 and 3 on my list. I could see these being very effective, but also them going horribly wrong, so I guess I'd have to strike a balance between being very clear but still subtle enough... I haven't quite figured out how to do that though. I'm hoping you guys could provide me with some examples for me to field-test.
IMO numbers 4 and 5 on the list don't make quite as good disqualifiers but I've listed them anyway in case someone begs to differ. I've based number 5 on the life of, say, an RSD instructor who's only in town for a weekend, which would no doubt work excellently. But even if I manage to convince the girl I'll be leaving, say, in 2 weeks, IMO she'll still subconciously conlude there's at least some time beyond the 1st date to assess my mate-qualities on another date. And saying I'll only be here for the weekend would make pulling to my room very strange indeed...
Please help.
I have this sticking point. Kind of a luxury problem but a very frustrating one nonetheless. I'm meeting hot girls very regularly, getting numbers, getting them on dates, pulling them home within a short time, escalating on them... Great!
However, I am losing a lot of girls in the endgame. I am persisting up to the point they either spread or leave, and when they leave because they think 'it's too soon', IMO they backwards rationalize that they rejected my advances because there must have been something wrong with me. Although my escalation might need some work (although I think it's pretty decent), I hope to get some better results by firmly disqualifying myself as a boyfiend to begin with.
I've mentioned this on here before but for context: I am a 32 your old good looking Dutch man living in Paris, France. I've been gaming (obsessively) since 1 1/2 years with a 4 month break to have a comitted relationship, which I ended 3 months ago. Before my 4 month relationship I had sex with a new girl every month, which I found decent for a beginner but given the time I spent, and spend on gaming it should be much better... and it's going to be
I've done lots of night game before but my game now consists of street approaches where I get the number in 1 to 3 minutes. I only approach the hotties and I would say I get the number in 1/3 of my approaches. My fundamentals are excellent (tractor beam eyecontact, voice tone and projection (I used to be a singer), body language (me and my wings videotape each other to check this and improve) and fashion / style (my ex was a fashion designer and I have a full wardrobe from France's top fashion house), also I am very modest lol. Although I am making a sub-modal amout of money and living in a room in a shared appartment, I have developed an excellent sense of style and, although it might sound rediculous, I own over $100K worth of clothing. I am not bragging here, I just want to show you guys the specifics of my situation. I guess guys in their 30s who make a good living and own a nice appartment will run into the same issues I do. I think the girls I go for, around 20yo, don't give that much of a f*ck about being provided for.... To parade me around as a BF however, would make a lo of them very happy, not to mention the general value an educated man in his prime could provide for such a girl... No wonder they have their own agendas.
So for my situation I have come up with a few things I could use in my defence against being BF-zoned. I think some of these might work better than others, but I'll just list them in hopes you guys could brainstorm with me:
*1) I could insinuate that I am very busy, too busy to have a GF in my life.
*2) I could insinuate that I have a GF.
*3) I could insinuate that I only date women my own age.
*4) I could insinuate that although I'm expensively dressed, that I don't make money.
*5) I could insinuate that I am an expatriate here and that I'll be leaving the country in a few weeks.
Of these, I have been using the first one on my last 5 dates (of which I had sex with 2, and didn't see the others again). It's a double edged sword however, as suggesting you're very busy while looking like you have lots of money kinda screams 'provider', and that's the whole problem with my game I guess. Again, I don't want to brag but all of my buddies notice me getting very high levels of attraction very soon into interactions. Which is very nice, getting good reactions, but in the end, quite literally, I'm still left with my d*ck in my hand
I've seen atricles about disqualifying oneself as a BF where Chase also mentions number 2 and 3 on my list. I could see these being very effective, but also them going horribly wrong, so I guess I'd have to strike a balance between being very clear but still subtle enough... I haven't quite figured out how to do that though. I'm hoping you guys could provide me with some examples for me to field-test.
IMO numbers 4 and 5 on the list don't make quite as good disqualifiers but I've listed them anyway in case someone begs to differ. I've based number 5 on the life of, say, an RSD instructor who's only in town for a weekend, which would no doubt work excellently. But even if I manage to convince the girl I'll be leaving, say, in 2 weeks, IMO she'll still subconciously conlude there's at least some time beyond the 1st date to assess my mate-qualities on another date. And saying I'll only be here for the weekend would make pulling to my room very strange indeed...
Please help.
