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Hector Papi Castillo

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A lot of times I get messages from guys or see posts from guys who do nothing but ask for value.

"I've never ever approached a girl and have no friends. WHERE DO I START?!!!??"

"How do I become a sex gawd?"

"How do I get hot blondes?"

"What process will get me 10,000 biznitches in my bed TONIGHT WITH NO EFFORT WHATSOEVER."

Sometimes I'll give these guys answers, other times...I just shake my head....

Your problem isn't technical.

It's foundational.

You just take, take, take.

And even when we give you answers and wisdom that could spike your success rates by 1000%, you don't even fucking apply it and instead, ask the same question 10 different ways, as if you're tricking anyone into thinking you're actually trying.

It's obvious you're not. The only person you're tricking is yourself.

You give nothing and only ask. If that's obvious over a forum post, I assure you it's obvious in person to those you try to befriend or fuck.

And what's worse is that you don't even try.

You aren't funny with your questions.

You don't show that you're doing anything with the advice given.

And you just generally give nothing to the world. You just take, take, take.

Are you this kind of person?

If so, let me save you a lot of time -

Quit being a fucking parasite.

Next time you ask for something, think "what can I give this person in return?"

Next time you're out at the bars trying to make friends, don't think "I want them to like me," think

'How can I make these people smile?'

"How can I make their night better?"

Next time you want to hit on a girl, think

"How can I make her day?"

"How can I bring value to her life?"

You think that some mechanical answer on this forum will give you an epiphany that changes everything and turns you from loserfuck into superman-pimp, but it won't. The only time I see guys actually learn from advice is if

1. They've tried something already (which means they actually take action and don't keyboard jockey)

and

2. They apply the advice given, like, right now.

When I get advice from Chase or some of my peers, I go out and apply it PRONTO.

Ex: a few months ago, Chase gave me a quick piece of advice on how to tweak my new romantic/sexual style and literally hours after talking to him, I went out, walked up to a girl on the street, set up a date that night, met up with her, had her buy me coffee, took a thirty minute walk, and then brought her back to mine and rawdogged her all night long. We were professing our love for each other until the sun came up.

And then I told Chase about it as soon as I dropped her off at her hotel.

That's why I succeed.

I ask and then I apply.

This makes those who reply happy - they see concretely that you VALUE their advice.

Being a good student is one of the highest honors you can give anyone.

Even when I was total beginner and went to college a complete social retard, I knew that I had to actually, you know, go out and provide people with a good time. It was the first thing I considered, because empathy.

But way too many of you (and you know who you are) just want to be given the whole world for nothing.

Stop it.

Stop taking.

And start providing.

Hector
 

Richard

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I think this is something we all struggled with at different times in our lives; especially if you're somebody who moves across different social circles where being on top in one place is only middle-tier at best somewhere else which was my case previously.

Anyhow, I was coaching somebody and came up with a nifty plan to help them develop a seduction style based upon what they can naturally provide: a single phrase blueprint unique to the person that epitomizes your core value. For me, well, I'm funny and goofy with women while still being sexual so I adopted A2daMIR's signature of "Make her laugh, make her moan" so now when I'm out and about with people I can fall back on that instead of analyzing a girls every move and trying to work from there.

Other guys may have something like "It's an adventure."

The point is that you epitomize your natural value and then turn it into a quick phrase which serves as a personal reminder on how you can seduce people. As you try to learn other styles, or adopt other attitudes and personas that phrase can change.

Quick tip for anyone struggling with value - if you understand what you do naturally then you can come up with a quick one and work from there.

Excellent post, Hector!

-Richard
 

trashKENNUT

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Anatman,

Anatman said:
And even when we give you answers and wisdom that could spike your success rates by 1000%, you don't even fucking apply it and instead, ask the same question 10 different ways, as if you're tricking anyone into thinking you're actually trying.

I am not joking at all when i say that Girlschase is one of the best, if not the best supported, documented by science, backup by experience, website there is out there. I would highly recommend Chase to charge private clients $10000 bucks for a weekend, and i believe with good marketing, there will be customers.

Just make sure i need to be on his good side now. :X:X:X:X

Zac
 

Chase

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Hector-

This is a great post.

I would recommend every man interested in self-improvement go out and get a copy of Napoleon Hill's The Laws of Success.

It's absolutely filled to the brim with amazingly useful, wonderful advice, but the part that comes to mind here is this:

If you want to be successful, you must visualize success.

However, when you visualize success, you must visualize what you will PROVIDE to GET that success.

If you want to build and sell cars, imagine happy buyers delighted with the top quality new car they've bought from you.

If all you're trying to do is get people to open their wallets while you chuck whatever you can at them to get that payment, you usually won't get far.

And so it is with women.

And so it is with mentors, like Hector and Richard and Zac and the other sharp guys here.

Also, before you send a message to any of these guys asking for help, I'd remind you to read (or reread) this article:

How to Find a Mentor

You'll 10x the value of any messages you send, or any thoughts you receive in reply.

Chase
 

lux7

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Anatman said:
Ex: a few months ago, Chase gave me a quick piece of advice on how to tweak my new romantic/sexual style and ....


Hector

I'm very much interested in this advice/technique and if you got time to reply, well... Interested in a beer and a kiss on the cheek if one day we'll meet in person? :)



P.S.:
Just as a note in case someone would like to make that a MO: watch out as it's basically a recipe for broken hearts..
 

Richard

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Chase said:
However, when you visualize success, you must visualize what you will PROVIDE to GET that success.

If you want to build and sell cars, imagine happy buyers delighted with the top quality new car they've bought from you.

If all you're trying to do is get people to open their wallets while you chuck whatever you can at them to get that payment, you usually won't get far.

Chase

I'm a huge fan of the car salesman approach to things and I use it frequently when I coach people/work with students who are trying to get into practicing therapy. I think it's one of the clearest examples of the old adage that "a life of servitude is the greatest purpose a person can have."

Just a point I'd like to emphasize for readers.

It's all about knowing how you can best serve people. I think people misunderstand "serve" though and take it to mean you're being weak or you're placing others higher than yourself.

-Richard
 
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