Does age matter in dating ? Examples of "older" puas flourishing in the dating world

[KnownUniverse]

I'm 48 and I regularly date girls down to their early 20's. And they're hot too! Right now I'm dating a 43 year old, but that's only cuz she's HAWT as FFFF! Granted, there are fewer of them at that age, but the bonus is rawdogging it I guess..........

should throw us a couple of field reports every now and then.

 

[Skills]

how old is @JT Sunshine ?

I am not his biographer?? Pm him...

 

[JT Sunshine]

how old is @JT Sunshine ?

I’m 35 - and having no trouble with women 10+ years younger than me. That being said I keep in shape and make sure my outfits are on point. I tell women the glow-up never stopped for me

 

[KnownUniverse]

I’m 35 - and having no trouble with women 10+ years younger than me. That being said I keep in shape and make sure my outfits are on point. I tell women the glow-up never stopped for me

And I take it you are in America? At least not in one of the commonwealth countries (uk, nz, aus, can).

 

[Skills]

I’m 35 - and having no trouble with women 10+ years younger than me. That being said I keep in shape and make sure my outfits are on point. I tell women the glow-up never stopped for me

I can back this up . Low body fat, good shape and baggy style... And he puts in the work, he cold approaches a lot... Again all that is in your control guys 35 i was laying 1 to 3 girls average a week... 30s should be prime...

 

[KnownUniverse]

I can back this up . Low body fat, good shape and baggy style... And he puts in the work, he cold approaches a lot... Again all that is in your control guys 35 i was laying 1 to 3 girls average a week... 30s should be prime...

I've witnessed some pretty crazy results from guys in their 20s that I havent seen from guys in their 30s. But this was 11 years ago when PUA and bar/club life was at it's peak. These wings were pulling almost every weekend and I'd witness them pull 9/10 college babes to their car for sex then come back in the venue for another. Just crazy results. But it also could've been due to the culture at the time.

This was just before the RSD controversy hit. There was a masssive community of guys in my country doing pua then suddenly they all disappeared. The public meet ups, the forums, the wings... All gone. Now I'm able to find a decent wingman maybe once every couple of months.

 

[average_daygamer]

I can back this up . Low body fat, good shape and baggy style... And he puts in the work, he cold approaches a lot... Again all that is in your control guys 35 i was laying 1 to 3 girls average a week... 30s should be prime...

What the heck is this "baggy style" cringe though? Form fitting clothes have always looked good.

I'm damned if I'm dressing like it's 2002 again.

 

[Skills]

What the heck is this "baggy style" cringe though? Form fitting clothes have always looked good.

I'm damned if I'm dressing like it's 2002 again.

Which is why you get the results get..

 

[samson]

I don't buy this as many others also seem to conclude.

Yes there are older men who can pull much younger women and it seems like when this is discussed online, all these older guys come out of the woodwork claiming that they can do so. But it's not remotely as common in reality as the online world portrays it to be.

Just through basic observation, the majority of women do not want to date someone much older than them, period. Those that actually do are a minority and in the off chance a woman does date an older man and she's not after something like his money, in my experience, almost 100% of the time the man looks much younger than his age so if you are an older man who doesn't have that going for him, you're climbing a very steep hill.

No it's not impossible as an older man to date younger women. It's dependent upon many variables. But to paint it as something easily attainable for most older men is selling a fantasy.

 

[Skills]

I don't buy this as many others also seem to conclude.

Yes there are older men who can pull much younger women and it seems like when this is discussed online, all these older guys come out of the woodwork claiming that they can do so. But it's not remotely as common in reality as the online world portrays it to be.

Just through basic observation, the majority of women do not want to date someone much older than them, period. Those that actually do are a minority and in the off chance a woman does date an older man and she's not after something like his money, in my experience, almost 100% of the time the man looks much younger than his age so if you are an older man who doesn't have that going for him, you're climbing a very steep hill.

No it's not impossible as an older man to date younger women. It's dependent upon many variables. But to paint it as something easily attainable for most older men is selling a fantasy.

Nothing in pick up is easily attainable...

 

[JT Sunshine]

I don't buy this as many others also seem to conclude.

Yes there are older men who can pull much younger women and it seems like when this is discussed online, all these older guys come out of the woodwork claiming that they can do so. But it's not remotely as common in reality as the online world portrays it to be.

Just through basic observation, the majority of women do not want to date someone much older than them, period. Those that actually do are a minority and in the off chance a woman does date an older man and she's not after something like his money, in my experience, almost 100% of the time the man looks much younger than his age so if you are an older man who doesn't have that going for him, you're climbing a very steep hill.

No it's not impossible as an older man to date younger women. It's dependent upon many variables. But to paint it as something easily attainable for most older men is selling a fantasy.

I think the reason it’s not as common is that we have to overcome a few more challenges such as lack of energy versus guys in their 20s, lack of time due to typically having a stable job, for night game specifically it’s not always ideal to be out until 4am… but put in the reps and make it work if it’s important to you. There’s a lot you can do to make yourself look more youthful. Hit the gym, get a good haircut, dress correctly.

Do you see as many super successful older athletes in professional sports? Nope. Do they exist and can it be done with hard work and discipline? Hell yes.

I will disagree about the not wanting to date older men aspect tho, at least men in their mid-late 30s. A few will find it a turn off, a few will find it a MAJOR turn on, and the majority of women do not give a shit. Field tested. I prefer gen z girls so I’m almost always going for ones 10+ years my junior. It’s all about your vibe and your game, and putting in the work. I remember being 22 and jealous of the super hot girls who were dating older guys… now I am that older guy.

 

[Ratata]

I don't buy this as many others also seem to conclude.

Yes there are older men who can pull much younger women and it seems like when this is discussed online, all these older guys come out of the woodwork claiming that they can do so. But it's not remotely as common in reality as the online world portrays it to be.

Just through basic observation, the majority of women do not want to date someone much older than them, period. Those that actually do are a minority and in the off chance a woman does date an older man and she's not after something like his money, in my experience, almost 100% of the time the man looks much younger than his age so if you are an older man who doesn't have that going for him, you're climbing a very steep hill.

You're on the wrong forum for such limiting beliefs buddy xD (And btw who here has seen Johnny Soporno? God, I've seen that guy pull women probably 25 years younger than him!)

First of all, this forum is heavily biased. This is where the accomplished PUAs hang out; those who perfected their craft from years of study and practise. All highly ranked people in here are statistical outliers. And some of the un-ranked too, just due to the interests we share.

With that said, most of the guys in here aren't naturals. Instead, most of the guys are here because we needed to read up on how to pickup chicks before we were able to get laid. Some were virgins before they started to read up and practise, and deep down they know that they would've stayed virgins forever if they never became a member of this or other PU forums.

So yes, your observation isn't wrong per se. It's uncommon to see old guys dating very young women. But then, you're on a forum with a ton of guys who went through hell and back again to learn this craft, and who now know shit that most don't. And these guys slay pussy no matter their age, and often despite of their age. So minority or not, what we do still works. And what we do can still be learned. Only question is, are you willing to let go of those limiting beliefs? Cuz that's the only way you'll be able to learn yourself.

 

[samson]

Nothing in pick up is easily attainable...

This isn't a response

Threads like this are just selling a fantasy to the average guy interested in pickup.

Again, I'm not saying it's impossible as an older man to get younger women. But it takes a substantial amount of factors in the man's favor that most men will never be able to obtain.

Instead of posting a bunch of examples of older pickup coaches and then saying any older guy can do it, instead talk about what factors a man needs to have to achieve success in this endeavor.

I think the reason it’s not as common is that we have to overcome a few more challenges such as lack of energy versus guys in their 20s, lack of time due to typically having a stable job, for night game specifically it’s not always ideal to be out until 4am… but put in the reps and make it work if it’s important to you. There’s a lot you can do to make yourself look more youthful. Hit the gym, get a good haircut, dress correctly.

Do you see as many super successful older athletes in professional sports? Nope. Do they exist and can it be done with hard work and discipline? Hell yes.

I will disagree about the not wanting to date older men aspect tho, at least men in their mid-late 30s. A few will find it a turn off, a few will find it a MAJOR turn on, and the majority of women do not give a shit. Field tested. I prefer gen z girls so I’m almost always going for ones 10+ years my junior. It’s all about your vibe and your game, and putting in the work. I remember being 22 and jealous of the super hot girls who were dating older guys… now I am that older guy.

You're on the wrong forum for such limiting beliefs buddy xD (And btw who here has seen Johnny Soporno? God, I've seen that guy pull women probably 25 years younger than him!)

First of all, this forum is heavily biased. This is where the accomplished PUAs hang out; those who perfected their craft from years of study and practise. All highly ranked people in here are statistical outliers. And some of the un-ranked too, just due to the interests we share.

With that said, most of the guys in here aren't naturals. Instead, most of the guys are here because we needed to read up on how to pickup chicks before we were able to get laid. Some were virgins before they started to read up and practise, and deep down they know that they would've stayed virgins forever if they never became a member of this or other PU forums.

So yes, your observation isn't wrong per se. It's uncommon to see old guys dating very young women. But then, you're on a forum with a ton of guys who went through hell and back again to learn this craft, and who now know shit that most don't. And these guys slay pussy no matter their age, and often despite of their age. So minority or not, what we do still works. And what we do can still be learned. Only question is, are you willing to let go of those limiting beliefs? Cuz that's the only way you'll be able to learn yourself.

Yea but this just proves my point. Instead of posting a bunch of examples of older PU coaches and then telling guys they can do it to, introduce some reality into the situation and talk about what a man needs to do to be able to pull younger women.

Those things are much harder to achieve, can take many years, and like most difficult things in life, there is an element to "you either have it or you don't". The older guys I know who consistently pull younger women? They are of a certain height, stature, wealth level, fitness level, etc. Many of those things are outside the realm of most guys.

 

[Skills]

This isn't a response

Threads like this are just selling a fantasy to the average guy interested in pickup.

Again, I'm not saying it's impossible as an older man to get younger women. But it takes a substantial amount of factors in the man's favor that most men will never be able to obtain.

Instead of posting a bunch of examples of older pickup coaches and then saying any older guy can do it, instead talk about what factors a man needs to have to achieve success in this endeavor.





Yea but this just proves my point. Instead of posting a bunch of examples of older PU coaches and then telling guys they can do it to, introduce some reality into the situation and talk about what a man needs to do to be able to pull younger women.

Those things are much harder to achieve, can take many years, and like most difficult things in life, there is an element to "you either have it or you don't". The older guys I know who consistently pull younger women? They are of a certain height, stature, wealth level, fitness level, etc. Many of those things are outside the realm of most guys.

Brother women are not a charity case, they don't owe you shit... If yo are older and want younger you need to bring something to the table if you are average... You fucked... I posted how must older realistically do it.. nothing in life or pick up is easy but you can make it easy once you put in the work..

 

[samson]

Brother women are not a charity case, they don't owe you shit... If yo are older and want younger you need to bring something to the table if you are average... You fucked... I posted how must older realistically do it.. nothing in life or pick up is easy but you can make it easy once you put in the work..

Dude, where the hell did I say women owe me anything? WTF is wrong with people.

Legit just commented on how posts like this gloss over how much work you need to put in to actually pull younger women as an older man and you all are pissed off because of that despite confirming what I was saying. Why this is triggering so many of you is beyond me.

 

[Skills]

Dude, where the hell did I say women owe me anything? WTF is wrong with people.

Legit just commented on how posts like this gloss over how much work you need to put in to actually pull younger women as an older man and you all are pissed off because of that despite confirming what I was saying. Why this is triggering so many of you is beyond me.

No it doesn't cause I posted a full factual posts on how guys in the forum and on the streets do it... Offer solutions vs coping... Nobody here cares..

 

[samson]

No it doesn't cause I posted a full factual posts on how guys in the forum and on the streets do it... Offer solutions vs coping... Nobody here cares..

You just said it takes work This is getting ridiculous. Best of luck to you my friend, I have no argument with you.