Does high testosterone always help you get more women?

[Rain]

I've read a lot lately about guys thinking high testosterone helps with women. Chase also mentioned it the subject, as did Ray, linked at the end. I've been tested and had high testosterone. Did some approaches a few nights before I got blood test which said I had high t, and I didn't have women swarming me. But being underweight, literally, could be a huge fundamental missing. Anyway, some possible variables:

1. Which testosterone are we talking about? Total testosterone, or free testosterone? They are different things. So when you say high t helps, is it total t, or free range t? Or do both need to be high?

2. Can you be both high t, and high cortisol, at the same time? So women won't smell testosterone or they'll smell cortisol and that is a turn off? Or is it you have high t you're going to have low cortisol, they can't both be high or both be low?

3. Even with high testosterone, if your other fundamentals and game are off, eg still nervous , or body language, still going to be a problem? Do those things override the high t?

4. If you're wearing clothes that cover up your testosterone, eg long sleeves jumpers, scarfs that would inhibit the point of smelling like t?

5. Has anyone here had way more success by not jerking off... or by only having intercourse.... or by not doing either and then had way more women? Or working out and still jerking off etc or whatever combination, has it worked for you? Has it not made women more receptive to you compared to when you didn't have high t? Would it matter if you aren't that keen on the woman but its still sex? What if its jerking off but not intercourse, but she does it? All these varaibles.

6. T levels can vary.... if the blood test day I was high, maybe I wasn't that high the few nights before when I approached.... or some clothes had cortisol on them. Variables. Or maybe everything was fine and it doesn't work for everyone?

Here is what Chase says about it in the comments section
https://www.girlschase.com/content/your- ... perate-men

"Ejaculating from sex is another one that robs you of focus; I've seen some guys experiment with having sex but no ejaculation for a month, and by the end of the month they had women opening them and propositioning them like crazy (sex raises testosterone; ejaculation lowers it; lots of sex with no ejaculation seems to just be a straight shot to the top for your t-levels)."

Here is what Ray says about it reckons the natural pheromone doesn't work for him I dunno if that means low t or not though

deodorant, a good cologne (some people on these boards go for the natural pheromone and reduced soap approach although it does not work for me)

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=18543&p=92383&hilit=cologne#p92383

 

[Cacc]

Rain,

When guys say high t helps with girls they're not talking about just scent. High t tends to be synonymous with high sex drive so what they're really saying is the guy with a lot of testosterone will put himself in more situations for getting laid thus get more results.

Although... High t doesn't always mean a high sex drive, as is my case.

 

[Sprezzatura]

I was also underweight when I was younger. Lift some weights and get buff, or at the very least, if you have fast metabolism, get lean with washboard abs.

1. I think they mean general testosterone levels, whether it is free flowing or DHT isn't specified. DHT is ten times more potent than ordinary T and helps you to recover sore muscles and injuries faster. It also gives you more aggression and puts hair on your chest and in pubic areas

2. If you are high DHT you will automatically negate most of cortisol and estrogen production, the general testosterone will also migitage cortisol to a great extent. T and cortisol are not mutually exclusive, however they cannot coexist for long. Testosterone builds muscle, cortisol destroys them and stores body fat. So if you start getting fat in the midsection all of a sudden or your muscles are getting soft, then your cortisol has far surpassed your testosterone. Notice that this does not happen overnight and takes a few months to occur. So when you approach women your cortisol naturaly rises, but never to an extent to surpass your high T. Only serious prolonged trauma, great stress or unhealthy lifestyle can raise your cortisol to such degree.

3. Here I should point out that high T mostly attracts women who are ovulating or are looking for hookup. However if your fundamentals are shit, all the T in the world won't help you. So get in shape and improve your body language, manerism in general. Be advised that women who are on the pill cannot distinguish between men with high T and men with low T. I speak from personal experience, not theorycrafting

4. Related to point number 3. long sleaves do not mask your T, deodorants and cologne will. Don't laugh but I do not use any deodorant and my natural scent is attractive to a majority of girls. I had a lot of compliments over the years from women that I smell nice and what perfume I use and I don't use any. Note that my musk is very neutral - you cannot smell me, even in summer, unless you are a woman. The problem with fragrances is that they mask the male scent and women can be fooled that you are compatible. When they are on the pill it only complicates the matter further. For short hookups it doesn't matter, but for long term it can be detrimental. I was using fragrances when in college and my then GF was enamored with me. However when we tried to conceive a child, we couldn't, later at the infertility clinic we found out that we were both perfectly normal healthy adults, we just weren't genetically compatible. The clinics are full of people who are not compatible - why - because of the fucking pill and because every guy and gal uses too much deodorants, which makes us blind to the smell of others.

5. NOFAP is a myth, the only reason you should not jerkoff is to remain focused on finding real women. It doesn't give you superpowers it just makes you more likely to notice women around you and to talk to them, so disregard this only if you have the need to watch porn or you need to FAP every day - not good for T.

6. has been covered in 3 and 4.

 

[Cacc]

5. NOFAP is a myth, the only reason you should not jerkoff is to remain focused on finding real women. It doesn't give you superpowers it just makes you more likely to notice women around you and to talk to them, so disregard this only if you have the need to watch porn or you need to FAP every day - not good for T.

Actually this is false. do some research

 

[P.a.p]

It motivates you to go after women. Nothing more.

 

[Michal]

It motivates you to go after women. Nothing more.

No, it keeps the sexual energy in your body and because it is an energy, it can be transmuted to other kinds of energy and make you more productive, not tired that quickly etc.

 

[Regal Tiger]

4. Related to point number 3. long sleaves do not mask your T, deodorants and cologne will. Don't laugh but I do not use any deodorant and my natural scent is attractive to a majority of girls. I had a lot of compliments over the years from women that I smell nice and what perfume I use and I don't use any. Note that my musk is very neutral - you cannot smell me, even in summer, unless you are a woman. The problem with fragrances is that they mask the male scent and women can be fooled that you are compatible. When they are on the pill it only complicates the matter further. For short hookups it doesn't matter, but for long term it can be detrimental. I was using fragrances when in college and my then GF was enamored with me. However when we tried to conceive a child, we couldn't, later at the infertility clinic we found out that we were both perfectly normal healthy adults, we just weren't genetically compatible. The clinics are full of people who are not compatible - why - because of the fucking pill and because every guy and gal uses too much deodorants, which makes us blind to the smell of others.

This is something that I've been very curious about but keep forgetting to look up. Can you elaborate on the no deodorant thing a little more? For example, how do you keep from just plain stinking? I remember Chase mentioned something about this as well but I can't remember what article.

Would love to hear more as it's something that I'm curious about, or if you have any trusted resources I'd be appreciative if you sent them my way as well! Thanks

 

[Sprezzatura]

There is not much to tell about the deodorant or personal hygiene if you go all musk. The most important thing is that you should still shower regularly or after any sport activity. The greatest source of stink in most guys is probably long or thick armpit hair. Mine is luckily quite short and not so thick. I don't suggest you shave your armpit, but if your armpit hair is super long shorten them a bit with scissors or use a trimmer to recede them.

I think the greatest source of smell is unhealthy lifestyle. People who smoke or drink alcohol a lot stink a lot more. People who eat a lot of processed food or dairy product also stink more. The greatest revelation was when one of my Asian friends said that most western men smell like sour milk to her. Since then I have limited my dairy intake and now I only consume fresh milk - that made a huge difference for me. Healthy lifestyle will show on your skin, on your smell and in your look - you will just generally be more attractive.

There is however one caveat when going all musk - you will tend to repulse some women. These are the ones who are not compatible with you. I don't know if you are aware of that but women have more attractive odor when they are ovulating. The first time I noticed that was in the gym, with a chick I was very meh about. One day I "noticed" something different about her so I set up a date with her and smashed her. Later she told me she was horny as hell and that she was in that time of the month. From then on I have been more attentive to female odor and I dislike women who use too much strong perfume - a little is OK. My smell is quite sensitive, so girls who smoke a lot or use too much perfume stink to me like a skunk.

If you will go all musk you will attract the women who are compatible with you even more and repulse the ones who are not. The women you meet will be more into you from the start and their attention will be more genuine. The ones who are on the pill, however, will have no clue about your smell - they are handicapped in that regard.

 

[Regal Tiger]

Thanks for the info! Don’t wanna hijack a thread so I sent ya a PM