does my evil motivaton have a downside?

[Ree]

i once got rejected by a girl i had invested too much on (typical oneitis story)....this motivated me to tryy and be succesful to make her feel bad.
i shot two films,which both went on to win an award.
i post these awards on social media to make her feel useless(she is pregnant and broke).....i have always wondered wether this deal is too good to be true...i have lots of motivation nowadays and i am able to put in a lot of work on my projects...is there a downside to all this?....or is it normal to use rejection as motivation

 

[Sandman]

Anger can keep you warm at night, and wounded pride can spur a man to wondrous things.

 

[readjusting]

i shot two films,which both went on to win an award.

Congrats

 

[Ree]

Anger can keep you warm at night, and wounded pride can spur a man to wondrous things.

true but is there a downside?,,chase warns us not to be bitter men

 

[Ree]

i shot two films,which both went on to win an award.

Congrats

thanks

 

[Richard]

Yeah dude,

So long as you're doing something to purposefully hurt them or try to make them jealous or regretful then you're a slave to them.

Chase talks about not being bitter because dominant men don't ever feel that because they never see a reason to be bitter.

Anyway, success rooted in revenge can take you decently far but as long as you hold onto that negativity then you'll never become the man you can be and you'll wind up feeling empty.

-Richard

 

[Lover]

To me personally, this would not be the most effective strategy to stick to a habit or project in the long term, or to reach any kind of fulfillment. I have tried it once because of a harsh breakup, but I couldn't stick with it for more than 3-4 months. I wanted to do it less and less to prove something to her.. She wouldn't know it anyway since we have absolutely zero contact, but you know.. in my head, I'd probably get the satisfaction. But now, I don't really care about that... I find it stressing to work for that satisfaction. It doesn't make me happy if I don't do it for me.

I think you have to take a good look at yourself and decide for what purposes you want to do what you do. If you want the satisfaction of making her feel bad, then that is your fuel. If you're like me in any way, there will be a limit to it, but who knows?

There are tons of reasons to give you the drive you need to achieve great things. Pick what works for you. Or pick something according to the kind of person you want to be 5 or 10 years from now. Or what gives you fulfillment.

 

[Ree]

hey ajay and richard...yeah you guys are probably right...its probably not a great long term plan...but i am thinking because i cant contro how i feel...shouldnt i just ride this wave of motivation till it ends(my past experiences tells me it inevitably ends)

 

[Richard]

hey ajay and richard...yeah you guys are probably right...its probably not a great long term plan...but i am thinking because i cant contro how i feel...shouldnt i just ride this wave of motivation till it ends(my past experiences tells me it inevitably ends)

Can't control how you feel or don't want to?

As humans we are totally responsible for what we feel; nothing is causation with emotions in the sense that Girl A does XYZ and we HAVE to respond with anger/frustration/etc. We're all totally in control of our feelings.

 

[Hue]

hey ajay and richard...yeah you guys are probably right...its probably not a great long term plan...but i am thinking because i cant contro how i feel...shouldnt i just ride this wave of motivation till it ends(my past experiences tells me it inevitably ends)

Can't control how you feel or don't want to?

As humans we are totally responsible for what we feel; nothing is causation with emotions in the sense that Girl A does XYZ and we HAVE to respond with anger/frustration/etc. We're all totally in control of our feelings.

Recently I've been thinking a good bit about personal positive and negative reinforcement, self-respect in action, and the effect it has on one's own subconscious influences.

For example, if you work hard to succeed in something, and then reward yourself with something that has negative consequences, you're effectively mimicking abuse onto yourself. Typically things that have immediate positive benefits and long term negative benefits match this to a T.
(examples: drinking heavily after an A on a test, an addict using after 30 days abstinence, fucking your ex of a bad relationship after not for a while, gorging on cake at a graduation party)

When people are in abusive relationships, abuse drugs / alcohol, etc. the ultimate effect is those [things] abuse the people.

In this sense we have control over our actions, and how those actions make us feel. The best method for a long term effect is to accomplish and reward with things that keep long term benefits in the picture, with minimal negative consequences.

Thought some light on that may cross over.

Hueman

 

[Inbocca]

When people are in abusive relationships, abuse drugs / alcohol, etc. the ultimate effect is those [things] abuse the people.

In this sense we have control over our actions, and how those actions make us feel. The best method for a long term effect is to accomplish and reward with things that keep long term benefits in the picture, with minimal negative consequences.

Damn, never thought about it like that but that makes a lot of sense. At the very least we're subconsciously aware that these short-term-feel-good-long-term-abusive things are bad for us; even consciously in many cases ("I'm gonna quit after this pack", "I want to stop drinking for a bit", and so on). If we start "rewarding" ourselves with abuse, it instills negative reinforcement and keeps us from forming good habits.

This actually just answered a question that's been brewing in the back of my mind this week, so thanks.

 

[readjusting]

One thing I don't like about "evil motivation" is that, you spend more time fantasizing about "muahahaha I have make it you lose"" than actually go out and improve your life.

 

[GeneralFap]

Youre such an edgelord

 

[Mr.Rob]

Ree,

That's an interesting question to pose. I think Richard points out a good point in that the evil motivation is likely coming from a darker place and isn't sustainable for internal fulfillment or happiness... Nonetheless you've always struck me as an ambitious and motivated guy capable of greatness. There have been plenty of great men of history that never conquered their dark side but did successfully harness it to achieve powerful things personally and globally.

The downside being these men never achieved the personal self fulfillment and happiness that Richard outlines. Plenty of counter examples to this as well though.

Its interesting to think if God approached you gave you the options of A.) live a life of internal happiness, spiritual fulfillment, and contentment and achieve average level of influence, power, and legacy OR B.) Live an extraordinary life with great power, influence, and legacy to bring greatness into the world with the caveat that you'll die young, be spiritually torn, and experience a level of turmoil your whole life which would you choose?

At this current point in my life I'd choose option B and take my chances. Hard decision though.

Finally evil/bitterness will always be less powerful in the longterm from a sustainability point of view and is typically self destructive in the end.

A black and white example. Hitler and George Washington both have serious impacts on history. Hitler's legacy effect ceased nearly the instant he died (i.e. his goals were not carried out after his death). Washington on the other hand is still having his legacy fulfilled to this day hundreds of years later (albeit probably not how he envisioned).

You can poke a lot of holes in the last example but I think my point is clear.

-Rob