Does Size Matters in this Day in Age

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James, My Partner referred to my unit as being a "10 incher" which is WAAAY over. What she does remark upon is "it gets SO FUCKING HARD!"

Women are enamored with the physiological process of erection. Kinda in the same way we love to fondle breasts.

FWIW trimming pubic hair and getting rid of a beer gut adds 2 " to your cock.
 

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Some guys outright lie about their size to a girl and say it's a couple of inches bigger. The girl just goes along with it because she doesn't know any better and because she doesn't care that much. If a girl really cared about the size, she would measure it herself.

Also, read this by Chase
 

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I'm glad the article presented showed the fact that there are growers and showers. I was just going to get to that. It takes training the penis to its most potential in order for it to be of good use.
 

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I'm nowhere near the porn guys, but a good bit above average.

Having a big dick isn't all that it's cracked up to be. It's only inexperienced guys that think every girl needs a huge dick to be satisfied.

While 90% of the women I've been with could handle me after a warm up with no issues. I was too big in certain positions for some women (6% - 8% maybe) and just way too big and painful for very few, (2%- 4% I think).

In particular, it was terrible with Japanese women where I could only get halfway in. I then had to focus on being very cautious and could barely move, It totally ruined the experience for both.

Most women with rare exceptions would prefer average size with a guy that knows what he is doing. Some women told me that they don't mind small dicks if the guy really knows how to move it and hit all the right spots. Then there were a few that absolutely hated big dicks because it was way too uncomfortable for them.

If a guy doesn't know what he's doing, then size doesn't matter, it will just be a bad experience for the girl.

Girls in real life are not at all like in porn. She doesn't know what you're packing when you pick her up, it's not until right before you have sex that she finds out and I highly doubt that it makes a difference to her as long as you know what you're doing.

PS: I actually had one girl tell me that I was smaller than what she's used to but I really knew how to use it! Go figure! LOL!
 
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There were girls at work who made fun of a guy for his size. He was very direct with wanting a be from one of them as they talked to one another. They said it at least has to be about 7 inches. That means that dick game is necessary and that a Man has to train his dick to its fullest potential. Women cum by thought & foreplay but there are freaks who need that stimulation.
 

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There were girls at work who made fun of a guy for his size. He was very direct with wanting a be from one of them as they talked to one another. They said it at least has to be about 7 inches. That means that dick game is necessary and that a Man has to train his dick to its fullest potential. Women cum by thought & foreplay but there are freaks who need that stimulation.
Bro women say all kinds of shit,but don't follow through with it. Don't take everything women say that seriously when it comes to their dating requirements for men. They claim they want xyz type of guy and they end up dating or fucking a guy who is nothing like they described. They could look at you dead serious or swear on their grandma grave like they mean it when the guy has to have a 7 inch dick,but she will still let herself get raw dogged by a 6 incher.

Girls will whine and complain about "fuckboys",but are still attracted to these "fuckboys" and still choose them over the nice guys which they claim they want.
So try not to be mislead by women. Women change their minds a lot.
 

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Big dick energy. Bring the vibe, if you are lacking in size.

Honestly there are big dick problems, girls getting worn out or having pain. Having to tuck it in your sock.

one of the biggest players I knew with a crazy lay count had a small guy. He would tell girls all the time and laugh about it.

does size matter, yes, to you.
 

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I was at a party the other night and a bunch of girls were all saying how they preferred “ugly, small dick” men because they’re more freaky in bed. They said that hot guys with big dicks are lazy and you grow out of wanting them as a girl, and these girls have pretty high counts.

That being said I’m on the above average side and I can’t deny women go crazy for it. I’m also super lazy in bed though:p
 

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The pussy will adapt to the dick size over time. If she is used to getting big dicks then her pussy will be looser, but if she stops getting anything big inside of her, her pussy will start to get a bit tighter again.
Lol is that true? You got any article or something about it to send me? I'm seeing a new girl and I think my cock might be a bit big for her, she often stops me while I'm fucking her, she says she's not in pain, but I kinda hope she's lol
 

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I think the view that "vaginas don't stretch" is the scientific view, is not really true. In sex positivity circles this is accepted truth, but these sex positivity circles are overwhelmingly female dominated, they overlap significantly with progressive feminist circles, there is therefore an element of the women involved really wanting this to be true. It is an understandable female fear that they become looser over time, they don't want it to be true. Therefore they cook the books of anatomy and promote talking points about "the vagina is made of many muscles, muscles don't permanently stretch", when in reality this is only partially true.

While it may be true that the actual vaginal muscles don't permanently elastically deform, muscles aren't inert objects. The muscles are intertwined with the nervous system, and are elastic. If muscles were these ironclad objects that can't be stretched, then how would people be able to improve their flexibility at all? Most women start out in a position of not being able to handle a big cock, but over time you can get their pussy used to it. At first it is painful but over time their nervous system adapts and allows the muscle to stretch, what was once painful is now pleasurable to them. A smaller guy who fucks a girl like this when she is young, then again when she has been fucked by bigger guys, will feel her to be looser.

Not necessarily because her actual vaginal muscles have deformed in size, but because her nervous system is no longer inhibited in the same way it was when she was a virgin. For all intents and purposes, her pussy is looser, even if it isn't bigger, there is no longer the same muscular inhibitory tension in the deep muscles of her hips and vagina. It is the same size, but not as tight, as her vagina has become more flexible and less inhibited
 
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To answer the OP, yes size does matter. As people have said, if you are in the average range, you're going to be fine with the vast majority of women. There are some size queens for whom not having a huge cock will be a deal breaker, but these are a minority.

Unfortunately the societal phenomenon of women mocking small penises and generally just being quite cruel about this issue isn't going to change. In our highly polarized society, many people are looking for an angle on how to hurt others. Penis size is the most well known male fear and women know this, therefore the percentage of women with malice in their hearts are always going to attack male size insecurities because it works, as a form of sadism it is effective. It also allows them to "come together" in conversations and bond as women in a girl-bro kind of way. For many this kind of cruelty is seen as an empowering ownership of their sexuality, a "fuck you I'll say what I want", I know that this sucks but that is just the way society is at the moment.

If you are truly small, this will be a deal breaker for many women. And if you sleep with a chick, she will probably tell her friends you have a small dick. Some will be too embarassed to tell their friends, some may even lie, some may even lie out of empathy for you, but most won't.

I think the reason this topic is constantly relevant, despite the fact that these "it's not so bad bro" answers have been the accepted wisdom for 20 years, is because for most men who have size insecurities, the "it's not so bad, you're just fine, your girl might prefer a bigger cock but you may have other qualities that allow her to overlook it", doesn't really get to the core of the fear. The fear being that you're not hung and you lack something that many women lust over, and that is seen as virile and masculine. And while you can definitely get laid with a small dick, it's getting laid with an asterisk*, which is the brutal truth that if you are small and you want to be sexually active, people are going to find out that you are small. Her friends will probably find out, your social circle will probably find out and discuss it behind your back. And all the rage and shame that comes from this cruelty is something that you will have to face, and you have to come to terms with the getting laid with an asterisk* aspect to being a sexually active smaller guy.

The further you push game, the more seductive you become, it doesn't make this asterisk* go away. Because among the sexually active fashionable cool chicks who discuss everything in gory detail, they will say "oh he's that really cool guy, but I've heard he's got a small dick though. OMG really? He's small? I would expect him to be bigger lol". The more socially present and the more you engage with the world, the more you become a topic of discussion, the more this will become known. That's why smaller guys disappear and retreat from the world, why guys at group sex parties are generally above average, why guys into polyamory are above average, why successful players are above average in size. The smaller guys are too wounded to try. They've already been psychologically annhiliated by society, so they run away.

There's no amount of "it's cool bro" talk that's going to remove this brutality. We've all heard the stories about the small dick guy who owned it and came to terms with it, this is just a guy that faced this brutality. But he did have to face it, and he didn't face it by soft talking himself with sweet nothings and wishful thinking. He likely faced it with self forgiveness in times of extreme emotional brutality and cruelty, "castration" you could even say. Ultimately this is always going to be a question of whether you can accept the fact that you are small, will always be small, and that people may find out, and sadistically mock you for being small. Can you face this without becoming bitter? It's either this, or retreat from the world forever. Pre-emptively disquality yourself from life out of the fear of being emotionally castrated by women and society (like incels do). This topic always comes up because smaller guys naturally don't want to face something this difficult, and understandably so.
 

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To answer the OP, yes size does matter. As people have said, if you are in the average range, you're going to be fine with the vast majority of women. There are some size queens for whom not having a huge cock will be a deal breaker, but these are a minority.

Unfortunately the societal phenomenon of women mocking small penises and generally just being quite cruel about this issue isn't going to change. In our highly polarized society, many people are looking for an angle on how to hurt others. Penis size is the most well known male fear and women know this, therefore the percentage of women with malice in their hearts are always going to attack male size insecurities because it works, as a form of sadism it is effective. It also allows them to "come together" in conversations and bond as women in a girl-bro kind of way. For many this kind of cruelty is seen as an empowering ownership of their sexuality, a "fuck you I'll say what I want", I know that this sucks but that is just the way society is at the moment.

If you are truly small, this will be a deal breaker for many women. And if you sleep with a chick, she will probably tell her friends you have a small dick. Some will be too embarassed to tell their friends, some may even lie, some may even lie out of empathy for you, but most won't.

I think the reason this topic is constantly relevant, despite the fact that these "it's not so bad bro" answers have been the accepted wisdom for 20 years, is because for most men who have size insecurities, the "it's not so bad, you're just fine, your girl might prefer a bigger cock but you may have other qualities that allow her to overlook it", doesn't really get to the core of the fear. The fear being that you're not hung and you lack something that many women lust over, and that is seen as virile and masculine. And while you can definitely get laid with a small dick, it's getting laid with an asterisk*, which is the brutal truth that if you are small and you want to be sexually active, people are going to find out that you are small. Her friends will probably find out, your social circle will probably find out and discuss it behind your back. And all the rage and shame that comes from this cruelty is something that you will have to face, and you have to come to terms with the getting laid with an asterisk* aspect to being a sexually active smaller guy.

The further you push game, the more seductive you become, it doesn't make this asterisk* go away. Because among the sexually active fashionable cool chicks who discuss everything in gory detail, they will say "oh he's that really cool guy, but I've heard he's got a small dick though. OMG really? He's small? I would expect him to be bigger lol". The more socially present and the more you engage with the world, the more you become a topic of discussion, the more this will become known. That's why smaller guys disappear and retreat from the world, why guys at group sex parties are generally above average, why guys into polyamory are above average, why successful players are above average in size. The smaller guys are too wounded to try. They've already been psychologically annhiliated by society, so they run away.

There's no amount of "it's cool bro" talk that's going to remove this brutality. We've all heard the stories about the small dick guy who owned it and came to terms with it, this is just a guy that faced this brutality. But he did have to face it, and he didn't face it by soft talking himself with sweet nothings and wishful thinking. He likely faced it with self forgiveness in times of extreme emotional brutality and cruelty, "castration" you could even say. Ultimately this is always going to be a question of whether you can accept the fact that you are small, will always be small, and that people may find out, and sadistically mock you for being small. Can you face this without becoming bitter? It's either this, or retreat from the world forever. Pre-emptively disquality yourself from life out of the fear of being emotionally castrated by women and society (like incels do). This topic always comes up because smaller guys naturally don't want to face something this difficult, and understandably so.

This is nonsense and victim mentality. You're projecting your insecurity onto other people's behavior and building a whole structure of analysis out of your fears.

The truth is that people with low self esteem attract nasty people. It doesn't matter what the reason is, if it's a small dick, short height, ugly face, a mole, whatever it is, if you feel like shit all the time then people are going to look at you and try to figure out why. And then when they find out, some people will try to reinforce it, because it's an easy way to make themselves feel better by seeing someone who is relatively worse off by some standard they don't fall short of, a button they can always press.

What kind of female is going to be interested in a guy who allows himself to get fucked up by a comment such as "oh he's that really cool guy, but I've heard he's got a small dick though. OMG really? He's small? I would expect him to be bigger lol"? Who cares? That's his fault for accepting someone else's judgement over his own. Lacking conviction, lacking self-esteem, lacking strength of character, lacking pride, these are the things which really turn a women off, and they are all under a man's full control, but he allows someone's offhand comment about his dick to vaporize all of it and make him 'wounded' and 'psychologically annihilated' and 'run away'. Well obviously he's in trouble, but it's not his dick.

The FACT is that a guy who is weak is taken advantage of. And a guy who is strong, is not. It doesn't matter why he is weak, what excuse he has made up to account for his weakness, if he thinks he's shit then there's not a female on the planet who is interested. And if a guy thinks he's the best, regardless of whether his dick is tiny or wonky or pear shaped or sticks up at his face or is twisted up like a pretzel or whatever absolutely irrelevant and unimportant appearance it has taken, and will fuck up any guy or kick out of his life any woman who annoys him too much about it, and is successful in his life and ambitions and friendships, and knows how to game a woman and turn her on, he will live a life that all the other guys with normal dicks - who make themselves victims of some other ridiculous, useless and irrelevant excuse - can only dream of.
 

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@Nightlife I agree with Will. Seriously that entire wall of text was just pussy talk. You are projecting your own insecurities.
 

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This is nonsense and victim mentality. You're projecting your insecurity onto other people's behavior and building a whole structure of analysis out of your fears.

The truth is that people with low self esteem attract nasty people. It doesn't matter what the reason is, if it's a small dick, short height, ugly face, a mole, whatever it is, if you feel like shit all the time then people are going to look at you and try to figure out why. And then when they find out, some people will try to reinforce it, because it's an easy way to make themselves feel better by seeing someone who is relatively worse off by some standard they don't fall short of, a button they can always press.

What kind of female is going to be interested in a guy who allows himself to get fucked up by a comment such as "oh he's that really cool guy, but I've heard he's got a small dick though. OMG really? He's small? I would expect him to be bigger lol"? Who cares? That's his fault for accepting someone else's judgement over his own. Lacking conviction, lacking self-esteem, lacking strength of character, lacking pride, these are the things which really turn a women off, and they are all under a man's full control, but he allows someone's offhand comment about his dick to vaporize all of it and make him 'wounded' and 'psychologically annihilated' and 'run away'. Well obviously he's in trouble, but it's not his dick.
I actually agree to an extent with your point, the small dick guy who owns it and has a strong frame will still pull. But the process of getting there is going to be brutal for the majority of those guys. That's why this is a big male insecurity that is constantly present within every generation of young men. You can say "well just don't care about it and you'll pull" but that misses the point. To reach the point of "not caring" you have to go through some kind of emotional development, you can't just will yourself there by affirmations. Lacking in self esteem, absolutely, that's the entire point, they've been brutalized by society. It's not a "victim mentality" to speak about this, in the same way that it isn't a victim mentality for a woman who has been sexually assaulted to have issues with men. Personally I am above the average size and have no insecurities regarding penis size, I'm not projecting. My perspective on this comes from working with male clients in a therapeutic environment

I have dealt with guys who have been been laughed out of the bedroom, guys who have slept with a girl then had the experience of that girl telling everyone about their small dick and being bullied for it, guys that have literally broken down in tears in front of me because of this, even one guy said he "has never felt like an adult". It is simply detachment and privilege to say "just don't care about it bro be strong". Empathy for people who are unfortunate isn't a"victim mentality", and it is sociopathic to imply this and think that PUA mantras about tough guy alphas not caring what others think is going to solve this issue.

And if a guy thinks he's the best, regardless of whether his dick is tiny or wonky or pear shaped or sticks up at his face or is twisted up like a pretzel or whatever absolutely irrelevant and unimportant appearance it has taken, and will fuck up any guy or kick out of his life any woman who annoys him too much about it, and is successful in his life and ambitions and friendships, and knows how to game a woman and turn her on, he will live a life that all the other guys with normal dicks - who make themselves victims of some other ridiculous, useless and irrelevant excuse - can only dream of.

I'm sorry but this just isn't true. Guys with micropenises are going to come up against the hard, brutal biological reality of vaginal stimulation, the objective fact that most women like the feeling of being stretched and being penetrated deeply, and that their micropenis is just not capable of doing this. They can use dildos and toys etc, but this is a very difficult thing to come to terms with and most men in this position feel emotions of emasculation. And I definitely agree, and in fact the point of my post is that I do think that men should face these fears, but it is a very big thing for men to face and to resort to alpha posturing about "victim mentality" is to miss the point entirely. You have the privilege of being able to be flippant about this because it doesn't affect you personally and you have likely never thought about it in a real way and from a position of empathy

A man can be confident and good at oral etc and can still have the experience of hooking up with a chick and then being dumped because his micropenis just isn't big enough for her to get satisfaction. "I am confident and good in bed but I got dumped because my dick just isn't big enough to stretch her the way she likes" is an absolutely brutal realization for most men. I agree with you that men should face this, but to talk so flippantly about this as if it is only a matter of choosing to have a stronger frame is just outright delusional
 

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I actually agree to an extent with your point, the small dick guy who owns it and has a strong frame will still pull. But the process of getting there is going to be brutal for the majority of those guys. That's why this is a big male insecurity that is constantly present within every generation of young men. You can say "well just don't care about it and you'll pull" but that misses the point. To reach the point of "not caring" you have to go through some kind of emotional development, you can't just will yourself there by affirmations. Lacking in self esteem, absolutely, that's the entire point, they've been brutalized by society. It's not a "victim mentality" to speak about this, in the same way that it isn't a victim mentality for a woman who has been sexually assaulted to have issues with men. Personally I am above the average size and have no insecurities regarding penis size, I'm not projecting. My perspective on this comes from working with male clients in a therapeutic environment

I have dealt with guys who have been been laughed out of the bedroom, guys who have slept with a girl then had the experience of that girl telling everyone about their small dick and being bullied for it, guys that have literally broken down in tears in front of me because of this, even one guy said he "has never felt like an adult". It is simply detachment and privilege to say "just don't care about it bro be strong". Empathy for people who are unfortunate isn't a"victim mentality", and it is sociopathic to imply this and think that PUA mantras about tough guy alphas not caring what others think is going to solve this issue.



I'm sorry but this just isn't true. Guys with micropenises are going to come up against the hard, brutal biological reality of vaginal stimulation, the objective fact that most women like the feeling of being stretched and being penetrated deeply, and that their micropenis is just not capable of doing this. They can use dildos and toys etc, but this is a very difficult thing to come to terms with and most men in this position feel emotions of emasculation. And I definitely agree, and in fact the point of my post is that I do think that men should face these fears, but it is a very big thing for men to face and to resort to alpha posturing about "victim mentality" is to miss the point entirely. You have the privilege of being able to be flippant about this because it doesn't affect you personally and you have likely never thought about it in a real way and from a position of empathy

A man can be confident and good at oral etc and can still have the experience of hooking up with a chick and then being dumped because his micropenis just isn't big enough for her to get satisfaction. "I am confident and good in bed but I got dumped because my dick just isn't big enough to stretch her the way she likes" is an absolutely brutal realization for most men. I agree with you that men should face this, but to talk so flippantly about this as if it is only a matter of choosing to have a stronger frame is just outright delusional
Beating any problem in life, rather than getting beat down by it, requires at some point choosing your own frame, over pain or fear or anything else. Doesn't change it how brutal things get.

If a guys got a tiny dick he'll just have to accept that some females won't want to have sex. Sex is a quite physical act. The same way I might not want to bang a girl with hips like a dude or flat chest. So what? I'm not her customer then.

But why should that make his life miserable? If his body is in good shape, his mind is sharp, he has a few good friends, and he can pursue his life unimpeded? There are guys with no arms who can't even pick up a spoon but still find a way to feed themselves.

Victim mentality is taking one negative aspect and allowing it to ruin the whole, and in my opinion it's the greatest enemy of life. Everyone has a reason to feel like shit or give up, but some people don't, and no one sees that moment where they could have laid down, and wanted to, but instead turned around and fought. And then everyone says they were lucky or some bs, and the idea that there are two categories of people, winners and victims, continues propagating. But no, it was a simple choice. Yes or no. Am I going to live the life i want, or hide in the pigeon hole of victim hood? Is this it, or is there more?

Everything in life is simple, it is desperation that complicates it. Victim hood is taking that desperation and turning it into an identity. A man must rise above these things, see clearly his own shortcomings and his fate and strive to accept them with equanimity. Everybody dies in the end, the only question is what you want to do before you get there, who you want to be and what you want to experience in the short time you've got.
 

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A man can be confident and good at oral etc and can still have the experience of hooking up with a chick and then being dumped because his micropenis just isn't big enough for her to get satisfaction. "I am confident and good in bed but I got dumped because my dick just isn't big enough to stretch her the way she likes" is an absolutely brutal realization for most men

A man can be good at seducing a girl and getting a relationship with her. But even if he is a good boyfriend and her best lover ever, she may still dump him because
  • he isn't ready to move in together, get married, promise her exclusivity etc. Then she will look for an option more in line with what she wants.
  • her family doesn't approve of him, and she doesn't have the balls to put her own happiness first
  • she has to move abroad
  • it just doesn't feel right anymore

All these are brutal scenarios as well that you can do everything right, and she will still dump you because of circumstances.

Similarly, a girl can reject your advances because of your race, your height, your body, your hair or lack of it, your style, your vibe, or she's not looking for a guy even if everything feels right. Or she's just too nervous and accidently rejects a guy even if she wanted to anything but that.

Point is, we all go through hardship. Small penis problems are not special. They are issues that the owner will have to deal with. And once a guy can deal with that, you know what? A new set of problems arises.
 
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