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Does the "in crowd" and "popular kids" thing even exist after school?

Indian Race Troll (IRT)

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I read a recent thread by Oh Pry about how he was pissed off that he missed out on the college experience due to not being a part of such a crowd. As someone who went to a large state school with a prominent Greek Life scene, I was shocked to find the extent to which it existed in college. I thought that as soon as high school was over, none of that stuff would matter anymore but boy oh boy did it matter. Long story short, guys in higher status fraternities and athletic teams had almost a monopoly on most of the hot girls who were in sororities.

The thing is, sometimes, these guys weren't even that special. Not all of them looked good but by being in a certain fraternity or playing a certain sport, that was good enough to get them invited to exclusive parties or enjoy fun times with the hottest girls on campus.

I am wondering, does this sort of stuff exist out in the adult world?
 

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Proactivity,

It does, but not to the extent that you might be thinking.

When you're in college or high school, that is basically your entire world for that short period of time. So being the "cool" kids in that enclosure basically puts you at the top of a single hierarchy that exists. Since there is only one area, and one social structure, then it makes them seem like the "top" of the world.

In the adult world, these still exist, but they are now divided into smaller establishments that run within their own domains. So, for example, the nightlife scene in your area will have its own little hierarchy of dudes and chicks, but it is completely independent of say, the rich, business-class hierarchy that might exist at glamorous parties thrown by CEOs of giant companies. There is little to no overlap there, and neither hiearchy sees one or the other as "superior" and really could care less about each other.

Basically, the "fraternity" life gets removed from the college bubble and then just resides with a ton of other bubbles that all exist in same environment. Sometimes these bubbles overlap, but for the most part, Bubble A's hierarchy is exclusive of Bubble B's hierarchy, even though an individual might be part of both Bubble A and B. His position in Bubble A is completely independent of his position in Bubble B.

This is why it would be difficult for Oh Pry to now achieve what he wants: to be the "top" dog over everyone else. When you're out of the college bubble, you enter a world where there are hundreds of different bubbles for different types of people, and climbing the social ladder for one of those bubbles means nothing to any of the adjacent bubbles unless they exclusively overlap. And even then, there are still thousands of other bubbles that exist around a given city.

The only way to be the "cool" kid in college or high school, then, is to go back to one of those bubbles and become the "cool" kid. But, as you probably immediately realize, going "back" to high school is not really something that is feasible (and definitely unhealthy if you find it "desirable" to back to high school or college if you're older and have already completed it).

The best one can do at this point is find a passion or hobby that has its own bubble, join it, and then find out how to climb the social ladder within it. There are plenty of bubbles that contain beautiful women to meet and social ladders to climb, but it's going to be difficult to climb the ladder if you don't appreciate the passion or hobbies that revolve around it (and find yourself in it just because you want to be at the "top" of something without really appreciating what that something is).

- Franco
 

Orelfius

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...and here's the universal steps to join the "cool crowd" of your choice:
1- Find the cool people that are important in that crowd (aka alpha, beta and gamma, not necessarily male)
2- Go engage them, ask about them, listen about them and bring back the conversation to THEM (yep, exactly the same as if you were flirting a girl, just keep the sexy vibe off)

You will be surprised how effective it is. The truth is that few people really bother to listen to others… everyone seems to be waiting to talk about themselves. Even the top dudes of any given circle seems to have to fight for validation and attention. By simply listening to them and being interested by them you have something very rare and very valuable to offer… which mean that you're not only cool, but super cool, to the very eyes of the coolest people (providing you hare not a creep).

Then you get invited everywhere and have lot of options to party.
 
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