Chase said:
Zac-
Seems to have everything to do with whether you believe what you were doing was "right" or not, even if only at the time, considering your available options and information. Like it or not, a lot of men believe the cultural narrative that picking up women for sex is "wrong", and doing it in a calculated, conscious way (or worse still, teaching others to!), is like the devil made flesh. These guys fall for it, hang their heads in shame, and play up the narrative about how they got over their evil ways.
Chase
At the end of the day, you need to be comfortable in your own skin. I always use the pillow test; if i lay my head on the pillow and can sleep comfortably, then that day was a good day and my conscience is clear. A man has got to have a code, and stick by it. Nowadays i see many people change it on the fly to suit their current situation.
Regarding the part about guys hanging their heads in shame, this is my view on it:
Number one rule of being a MPUA is having amazing social/communication skills and being confident, which go hand in hand. Body, hair, face, social status all HELP you be better, but trust me, niether of those alone would enable you to become a MPUA. Sure, money can buy sex, but we are talking about the art of seduction.How many times have you seen a hot ass chick with a goofy looking guy? Its happened to me, and then i notice that the guy is very sociable, someone easy going, and generally a likable guy once you get to know him... So in my opinion, confidence, great social/communication skills are the key components (which includes being funny witty etc)
What i say next, is just my honest assessment, and i hope i dont offend anyone. The community wasnt around 10-15 years ago. Its a relative new thing, and the book The Game made it mainstream.Who were the main customers of the community 10 years ago? Pretty much people who lacked social skills, lacked confidence, and couldnt get laid. These are the people that eventually became some of the leaders in this community.
There are two paths that those noobs 10-15 years ago took to get where they are now.
1) Genuinely change themselves, become more sociable and have great communication skills, and in turn genuinely became more confident, and eventually the confident male that they are today ( for example, the dude that wrote that book)
2) People that just practiced the fuck out of routines and parroted materials on dates and became good at it
Same applies to school for example, some people genuinely get the course material and get an A+, some other study the fuck out of it the night before, memorize everything, get an A+ by noon, and by afternoon forgot most of it... In a sense, faked it. The results dont show it, but deep down inside they know they faked it.
So going to back what you were saying, i think the ones who feel "shame" are teh ones who feel like they "tricked the system", the noobs that just copied material and got laid, instead of making themselves better, they just memorized more material.
When was the last time you saw an alpha male athlete saying he's sorry for banging too many chicks?
When was the last time you saw an singer (rock n roll or whatever ) saying he's sorry for banging too many chicks?
When was the last time you saw an alpha male that you know personally saying he's sorry for banging too many chicks?
Another example, lets say you play a Video Game, lets say you play Madden 2015. At first you will play and suck,you have two options:
1) Play the game till you get etter, and eventually on the highest difficulty, always blow out opponents by 20+ points
2) use a cheat code and win on any difficulty by 20+ points
Chances are, if the time came to get challenged, the person who genuinely feels they cheated the system isnt as confident compared to the other guy that had many losses, but at the end became a great player.
Theres different aspects which go into why they would feel this way and slam teh lifestyle:
1) some of those guys eventually hit a plateu and their techniques dont work anymore and arent original anymore, they start to become lonely/depressed, so they start questioning their ways and trying to "repent" what they thought was cheating the system. They try to "ask for firgiveness" and say tehy and tehir methods were wrong
2) SOme, as you mentioned, do this for more publicity ( usually people that do this for a living). They do it as a publicity stunt
3) Some are just plain jealous. OP mentioned PUAs who have kids nowadays... That could very well be jealousy. They cant be picking up girls, so they bad mouth the lifestyle. It happens to me, im a pretty big muscular guy, and usually an older guy at the gym, or a younger out of shape guy will say something like " you know all that muscle will turn to fat when you get old". I mean who would say that and for what purpose, if not jealousy? Jealousy for something they dont bust their ass for , or jealousy for something that they cant achieve anymore
Moral of the story is, at the end of the day, you need to align your life with your own moral compass. For me, its always been honesty. I dont NEED pussy, i like it though
, so i would never lie or sell my soul for it. Some dude in another post said that my methods are "too white knight-ish", i actually take that as a compliment. If you live your life based on what you think is right, you shouldnt have any sense of remore later on in life.
So my question to the OP, what hate do you have for yourself?
