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Kvothe

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Prelude:

I had been walking around, doing the approach game to build back my approach momentum. For some people, rejection causes them to fear approaching, and decrease approach momentum. For me, it helps me increase it. Like exposure therapy.

I was walking through a public space, and saw a girl in a striking red top. I turn around and walk. She’s using her phone and taking some photos-so I open indirectly and proceed into a cold read. She hooks. I chat with her for a bit and I think do some qualifying. The interesting notes here are that she is visiting from another country, and visiting with her best friend. The girl’s friend had just broken up with a long term boyfriend, and my girl had joined the trip to take his place after they broke up. I want to get this girl on a date, so I actually try something new. I suggest she come out with me and a friend, and we’ll show her around some of the best spots. She seems more interested in this possibility.

The texting goes extremely smoothly, with good flirting/banter and not feeling too logistical (thanks skills). There are some hiccups as I try to find some guy I can bring with me to be with the girl’s friend. I eventually settle on my roommate because I think it will make the pull easier. He’s not a PUA, but he’s attractive, and conversationally good enough that I think it can work out.

Ch1: Rooftop Rumbling

We meet outside the rooftop on the ground floor. She’s wearing a thin tank top and a light closet on top. I give her a hug and whisper in her ear that she looks lovely-so her friend doesn’t hear me say it. I opted to do so bc of the high level of investment she had been giving over text. Introduce myself and my friend to her friend, and up we go. I know the bouncer and say hi to him, so that adds to my status a little bit.

Once at the top, I tell my roommate to sit with the girl’s friend, while she and I grab us all drinks. This lets me do some leading while also conspicuously consuming. This initial stuff sets a good frame that it’s mostly about me and my girl, and that my roommate and her friend are along for the ride.

The conversation between us is great, and my sexual vibe is dialed way up. I go through some various discretion frames and initial sex is no big deal plus purity gambit. She is compliant, but not enthusiastically talking about it. I change subjects for a bit, and throughout, rope my roommate and the friend in for light banter to act as breaths of fresh air.

At some point, I suggest a pull of me mixing us some drinks, and the girls accept. I also tell my girl I’m going to have she and I do a fashion show with some of my blazers to see who looks better.

The inflection point is when I start talking about female sexuality more theoretically, after I bring up Nancy Friday’s “My Secret Garden”. She eats this up and starts contributing a lot more to the discussion. All four of us need to go to the bathroom, so my roommate and the friend go first, then we go. I grab her hand to lead her, and we walk to the bathroom holding hands.

After that, we sit near the bathroom for a few minutes instead of going all the way to our friends. I take the opportunity to make out with her for a brief moment. It felt like the right thing to do instinctually.

Go back to the couch, and she’s much warmer, and the vibe between us is more solidly in the “going to hook up” phase.

At some point I suggest going home, and we head out. We stop to take some photos and my girl and her friend have a conversation away from us. Then we leave. She grabbing my hand, and her friend holding onto her. My roommate is holding no one’s hand.

Ch2 My place

We come back to my place, and I mix us some drinks. Easy commands to my girls and some playfulness too. Have her put on my coat and we put on a small fashion show for the other two/each other.

We sit next to each other, and eventually my roommate tries to give me some isolation by taking his girl to the balcony. Unbeknownst to me, he does attempt to escalate by kissing and gets rejected.

While that’s going on, I bring my girl to my room, and we start making out harder. A small time into doing that, the friends come back into the apartment and go to get some food. My girl thinks that her friend is leaving and doesn’t want to leave her, so she goes to make sure the friend is okay.

That basically spells the end of the seduction, as we leave the apartment and don’t come back. My roommate later tells me that his girl had wanted to leave my girl and me alone to have some privacy. So there was definitely a miscommunication there. Her flight is at 6:30AM the next day, and it’s already midnight.

We get food, and there’s not much more to say. She’s been warm over text, but who knows when she’ll visit again.

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I'd love feedback on how I could have sealed the deal. Honestly the rest of the seduction was near-perfect. I was playing with bad logistics, but I think I would have been golden but for the friend. Still unsure what I could have done with the information I had at the moment that would have caused me to behave differently.
 
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I knew this could happen but didn't want to be negative plus I thought you already knew about doubles from teevester... But basically this is the problem with doubles, here is from teevester:

"I can only talk for me and Pelusita since we usually are the one teaming up. Back in July, when we went out in stockholm we were actually practicing doubles. By doubles I mean when pelusita and I go in together. No tandem, only double-wingmanning. It requires a lot of calibration. If my girls is not fully into me, pelusita will fail despite his girl liking him, and vice versa. If he fucks up, I fuck up, and same goes if i fuck up and he fucks up.

We also have to reach somewhat a similar vibe in order to not burst each others social frame. We need to escalate more or less at the same time and pull at the same time"
 

Kvothe

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I knew this could happen but didn't want to be negative plus I thought you already knew about doubles from teevester... But basically this is the problem with doubles, here is from teevester:

"I can only talk for me and Pelusita since we usually are the one teaming up. Back in July, when we went out in stockholm we were actually practicing doubles. By doubles I mean when pelusita and I go in together. No tandem, only double-wingmanning. It requires a lot of calibration. If my girls is not fully into me, pelusita will fail despite his girl liking him, and vice versa. If he fucks up, I fuck up, and same goes if i fuck up and he fucks up.

We also have to reach somewhat a similar vibe in order to not burst each others social frame. We need to escalate more or less at the same time and pull at the same time"
Please never be worried about being negative with me!

I did go in knowing the logistics were bad, but I figured I'd rather have the experience than try to suggest a 1:1, which seemed very unlikely to happen.

More I'm trying to figure out if I did anything wrong here, or if the cards just weren't that good for me.
 

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I don't think you did anything wrong... Happens with doubles wayyy Less control, cause a lot depends on the other girl as you can see I lost girls just like this many times, super frustrating...
 

Kvothe

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I don't think you did anything wrong... Happens with doubles wayyy Less control, cause a lot depends on the other girl as you can see I lost girls just like this many times, super frustrating...
Makes sense, that takes most of the sting off for me anyway. I did the best I could in the situation, so if it doesn't work out, that's just how the universe works sometimes.
 
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