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Dying Tara!! my girlfriend from terminal diease to compulsive liar

TracingT

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Don't know where to start but I'll start by writing that today will be 1.5 years since I've known "Tara." I'm from the US and she's from a country in Western Europe.

I saw her a few times while she was a receptionist at the place I was staying. We made serious eye contact on my last day and we eventually exchanged numbers. I left her country for a business trip to Greece.

There, we started what would be deeply felt emails and text messages. We really went for it in many levels. I started to think about her every day of that trip. Many days later, I met her at the airport in her country, had a three hour layover, lets just say the chemistry was off the meters. We kissed for the duration of the time. I said goodbye and began once again the emails and texts messages with her. I was now in New York.

She eventually came to NYC for 18 days. We rented a flat for that time and spent all waking minutes together.

But things started to turn.

What I thought would be the beginnig of something turned out to be what she called, "friends." I was like, ok, cool. I'm just confused cause the way we shared ourselfs, physically and mentally, is something friends don't do. I mean she told me she loved me and I said the same.

She left back to her country in good spirits. She eventually went to London with some guy friend. yeah, I was thrown back a little but then I was talking to girls as well. so I just let it go.

The thing that bothered me was her flip flops. We are together. We are friends. Back and forth. yeah, it crossed my mind for you guys out there -- am i being played!!!

Months of deeper conversations and connections, she started breaking down emotionally more and more: crying over Skype, saying that she feels depressed without me, that there's emptiness in her. I believed her cause I could she it in her wet eyes, her body shivers.

So she's depressed without me but still touting this friend thing. I continued to be confused!! Didn't know what to do! She showed signs of Apathy, like yeah, she didn't care, or didn't givea shit about certain things, about a lot of things. This was a symptom of a disease she would eventually confessed to me that she probably has.

Yes, she dropped that bomb on me, "I have a terminal disease. My father has it and he's slowly dying." I was fucked in the head after that. Shocked to say the least. Why didn't she tell me this before?? Like she waited 7 fucking months!!! After she hooked me in.

She thought I would leave her if she told me. But I didn't. I helped her out in anyway possible. I was in the medical field and started to see what I could do for her. This was the beginning of an emotional roller coaster that had taken a big part of my life for months. I did it because I have compassion. I believed that if someone is in need that I should lend a hand. I would want the same to be done for me if I was in a similar situation.

Moving forward a few months (after intense day to day skypes, texts, emails), she did something very strange. She was set to be tested and I would be there physically for her, yeah, me flying to her country, since she was embarrassed to tell her close friends at the time. I said, yeah, I will be there, not a problem. So we set it for April, but she wanted to wait for the actual appointment. I booked a ticket anyway cause of price increases and knowing that sometime in April she would have the doctor's appointment. I was to stay there for a month, do some remote work, set meetings with colleagues and be with her.

Well, when I told her that I booked the ticket, she got upset and we argued, rarely did we argue before. I said, how selfish could this girl be, i'm buying a ticket to cross the atlantic and she's getting upset cause I didn't tell her the exact date. So freaking strange.

We didn't talk for two months after that. Yes, I lost the ticket! But during that time I started dating anohter woman, but I was still thinking of Tara.

Dying Tara!!


I read that the disease causes cognitive degeneration, meaning her logic is out the window. So I convinced myself that ok, maybe it was the disease and not her that's causing this bizarre behavior. That feeling of being fucked with!

After two months of no contact, we started talking again.

She hadn't been tested yet. She was to be tested two weeks later. I was there for her. No, I didn't fly there. I was there for her over emails, texts, Skype etc. She was a total RECK!!!

She came out negative. No Disease. I was left dumbfounded. Not that I wanted any a positive result but that meant her personality and her ways were not caused by this diesase. it was her. I was shocked.

And called off our contact immediately after that result.

She would, during this time, say how she loved me, but wasn't in love, then how she was in need of me. yeah, I returned none of her emails.

She would say one thing then flip and say the opposite. This was her. This was her personality. But I was still in love with her. Attached to that emotional connection we had during that waiting time, waiting for her to be tested.

She wants to be my friend but I feel that she is using me for advice, for my expereince, knowledge about the world. She's lost, almost to a point of being a blonde as in ditzy. I even spoke to some doctor friends and they tell me that even though she was negative she may have a "like" syndrome of that diease if she shows signs of symptoms for that disease. Which to me she did.

My point in all this is my attachement to her still lingers. And I'm trying my best to let her go emotionally. I see other women. I pick up girls. No problem. But she's on my mind CONSTANTLY. I'm like stuck. Cause I know that even if I do go back with her, we won't last. IT turns out she spews out white lies to a point of compulsion which I never confronted her for.

Maybe I'm attached to the chase, to the emotional level that I never shared with anyone else, to that "let me help a human being out.."

Trying to let go... It's fucking hard!!!!
 

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There is a couple of great things to learn from your story, I hope that you don't mind:



* Long term relationships don't work. Some do, but most not...Long term relationship = RED FLAG



* You fell in love with s girl before you slept with her. Not good, now you made it not only a platonic but also long distance relationship... You may feel great being in such love, but that girl may have different feelings about a guy who is far away... RED FLAG



* I don't know if you slept with her in that flat that you rented or not, nevertheless, your emotional involvement with this girl was way too high - while she didn't feel the same about you at all. She called you a "Friend", which means that you were basically shifted into a Friend Zone... Friend Zone is not ok, you were basically rejected as a potential lover at that time. Remember, it is her feelings that decide whether there will be a relationship or not - not yours. She by telling you that you are a "Friend" was basically saying: "I have no feelings for you, but I really like you as a person so we can at least talk here and there..." That is a RED FLAG.



* Yes, she flip flops, back and forth, several times - till you get confused. When she is confusing you it generally means that she is not interested. She could say: "Yes, I would really love to go for date with you, how exciting!" - but in reality she never shows up. Do you think that girl who is really in love would not show up? She would, she would be there, she would drive for hours just so she can see you... She gave you another RED FLAG.



* "Months of deeper conversations and connections"
>>>> Remember, just because you feel deep conversations and connections with that girl, it doesn't mean that she feels the same way... Generally speaking, for guys it is difficult to vibe with other people. When guy vibes he vibes because there are those true feelings. For girls it is little bit different, they can "vibe" and at the same time they don't really have true feelings for that guy... Also, if she wants a BF or lover, she wants somebody who is right there - who she can look in eyes directly, who she can touch, kiss, have sex with... But you are thousands of miles away, and she can only hear your voice... Not good, the same as above: RED FLAG.



* "she started breaking down emotionally more and more: crying over Skype, saying that she feels depressed without me, that there's emptiness in her."
>>>> Ok, now she is showing up LOTS OF NEGATIVITY. She talks about being depressed, crying, talks about emptiness in her... Does a girl who is excited about a guy feel depressed and empty? Nope. She feels very happy and she is full of life... Yes, she may really have some serious disease, but it just doesn't fit into overall picture... Another BIG RED flag. However, this time it needs to be interpreted correctly. There are simply 3 possibilities:

1. She really has serious disease
2. She might have some disease and she is using it as an excuse to move away from a guy who show high interest
3. She doesn't have any disease at all, she just made it up so she can get rid of that guy who is after her. Don't feel bad, I've been there several times.



* "She showed signs of Apathy, like yeah, she didn't care, or didn't givea shit about certain things, about a lot of things. This was a symptom of a disease she would eventually confessed to me that she probably has."
>>>> More and more negativity. More depression, doesn't give a shit about anything, and now she probably has a disease... Not just a disease, but terminal disease... Not good... Another RED FLAG.



* "She thought I would leave her if she told me. But I didn't."
>>>> Agree. She was probably hoping that you will leave her. She is saying: "Look, I am depressed, sick and I probably will die soon too. Once I die I will be gone forever, and I may die soon. You are healthy and you should find some healthy girl, you can live many many years"....



* "This was the beginning of an emotional roller coaster that had taken a big part of my life for months. I did it because I have compassion. I believed that if someone is in need that I should lend a hand. I would want the same to be done for me if I was in a similar situation."
>>>> You are a good person, great person, and you should always help those who really need help. On one side, it is good to be such a great person. On the other, you may be perceived very easily as a Nice Guy. Once she perceives you as a Nice Guy = big RED FLAG.



* "Moving forward a few months (after intense day to day skypes, texts, emails), she did something very strange. She was set to be tested and I would be there physically for her, yeah, me flying to her country, since she was embarrassed to tell her close friends at the time. I said, yeah, I will be there, not a problem. So we set it for April. .... Well, when I told her that I booked the ticket, she got upset and we argued, rarely did we argue before. ..... So freaking strange.... "
>>>> IMO it is not strange at all. She simply didn't want you to go there and see her. She wasn't embarrassed to tell her close friends - she just didn't tell them anything about the disease because there was nothing to say...She didn't want to see you and she was upset that you are coming = RED FLAG.



* "I read that the disease causes cognitive degeneration, meaning her logic is out the window. So I convinced myself that ok, maybe it was the disease and not her that's causing this bizarre behavior. That feeling of being fucked with!"
>>>> Ok. Now you are justifying her behavior, you are making conclusions, you are thinking for her, you are apologizing and explaining her bizarre behavior so it makes logical sense to you... Well, there is simply no logic and she behaves erratically because she doesn't want you to see any logic... She doesn't want to be logical with you, she is confusing you = RED FLAG.



* "She hadn't been tested yet. She was to be tested two weeks later. I was there for her. No, I didn't fly there. I was there for her over emails, texts, Skype etc. She was a total RECK!!!"
>>>> Hm.... Nope, just more negativity... more RED FLAG.



* "She came out negative. No Disease."
>>>> Thank God. So she is perfectly healthy now, she can be excited, she can finally meet you again , she can fall in love with you... Only if she were interested... And all the depression and emptiness is gone now, she should be relieved that she doesn't have terminal disease, she should be happy, excited, born 2nd time... But does she want to meet you? Celebrate her being healthy with you? Nope. Not interested. Another RED FLAG.



* "She would, during this time, say how she loved me, but wasn't in love"
>>>> Yes. She knows you are a great guy, she knows that you like her a lot, she knows that you are in love with her... yet she had no feelings for you at all, and even if she did you were too far away... She just didn't know how to tell you, you didn't get the hints about "friends" so she came up with lots of negativity - sickness, disease, depression, emptiness - hoping that you will leave, hoping that you would change your feelings... She even tells you directly she is not in love with you..... Well, what else except another RED FLAG.



* "She wants to be my friend but I feel that she is using me for advice, for my experience, knowledge about the world."
>>>> IMO She is not using you, they have enough qualified doctors where she lives.. She knows that you are very much in love with her, and feels sorry that she can't return the same feelings... She likes you a lot as a good guy, but she doesn't want to be in relationship with you. She just wants to be friends... Same as above, RED FLAG.



* "Cause I know that even if I do go back with her, we won't last. IT turns out she spews out white lies to a point of compulsion which I never confronted her for."
>>>> You are right, it will not last. There is nothing to last. IMO you perceive it as white lies but in reality she just didn't know how else to tell you that she is not in love with you... Girls are just different than guys... There is really not much to confront man, she did her best (in her girly mind, which is different than guy's mind) not to hurt your feelings. Which, interpreted by guy, can of course be much more hurtful than she telling you directly that she is not interested... Most Girls will NEVER tell you directly, they will do everything to avoid telling you because they think they would hurt your feelings. You simply have to watch for RED FLAGs next time, once you see 2-3 in a row you should become very cautious because the likelihood that she is not interested is very high...



* "Trying to let go... It's fucking hard!!!!"
>>>> Totally agree with you. There used to be time when I thought that loosing girl like that is much worse than loosing someone who dies. When a loved one dies, he or she is gone forever, you just get used to it. Yet when the girl is "gone" you just know that she is there, perhaps alone, perhaps with some other guy...




It is what it is man, life sometimes just plainly sucks, there is no sugar to sugarcoat it...But the great thing is that you gained valuable experience with this girl, and you could learn a lot about RED FLAGs that will prevent you from doing the same in the future... She gave you many warning signs, you just didn't see them because you had high feelings for her....



Hope it helps to understand, take it easy man...
 

TracingT

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This. That was logical.
Guess the big question is should I take her offer of friendship; she wants to be friends. Only shit that would bug the fuck out of of me is giving her the friend kiss and hug when we say bye, then she goes off banging some dude .

Not sure if I could squeeze that
 
the right date makes getting her back home a piece of cake
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