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The title is misleading cause no relationships last forever, they will all end, including your great grandpas (one of them will die first factual)
Before we start I have done posts on how to enter a relationship right and a really good one by the rev. on my blog on what to look for a girlfriend and keep her, and really comprehensive post on break ups.... I also think that getting back with your ex post hard next (a real definite break up) is the dumb and retarded....
We had a silly post which to be honest got a million replies, but is all fucked up... Like the girl should not have been main, and the dude did not know how to manage expectations which is crucial in a relationship... Like we are talking about a break up when the girl had no idea she was a main, i have a post on managing expectations were i go in detail on this issue...
Ok so this will be a comprehensive pre-emptive post on dynamics:
So this is how relationships operate, usually if you done everything right, you have a cool main.... She will start shit testing and testing boundaries and she will try betatizations attempts(this is usually after couple of months).... If you pass this she will be chill, and every once in a blue moon, may try again but no really.... And this is not what i am talking about....
The girl will have a legit concern from you that she is expecting and rooting for you to correct... It could be a million things: drugs, alcohol, physical or emotional harm, religion, family, financial issue, baby mama issue, wominazer issue, lack of progression issue... It could be ____________ fill in the blank a million and 1 things... Keep in mind this is not the shit test, betatization attempts, boundary testing... In other words this is at the point were she gave up on those attempts.... (the stuff people don't get the context and think we are talking lse girls, jesus)
It is an actual legit concern that is nagging in the background and she will bring it up in different ways indirectly, usually never direct (but they will eventually get so tire and bring it direct at times).... I usually take care of this before it gets there... But mainly she will ignore a bit and just gets real and amplify during check out (wake up periods)...
^ In addition in every relationship there will be a small build up, of misunderstanding, resentment, hurt.... as the time goes by a combination of the issues or an issue happening in the present will make the girl snap but don't get scare is a very gradual process...
When she get that MINI "snap" she will start the process of checking out gradually.... You will feel the check out, by she being withdrawn, she being a bit less sweet and a bit hardent and distant.... HERE IS THE TIME WERE YOU CAN WORK ON THE REALTIONSHIP, pre break up.... That is were you can do different relationship stuff, i personally i just talk to the girl normal and find out what the issue is (careful, sometimes is not even something with you but it could be work or life, so make sure is something with you and not something else).... Here you will address the issue, if is something that is not an attempt of shit test, betatization etc.. usually is not at this stage... With seducers the main one is lack of progression and other women...
Checking out stages can be fix.--- even when she start withdrawing and ghosting, this can be fix.... you can use influence and seduction and even dark stuff if lse and the likes...
also you have something call soft break ups, is when she snap and break up but is not a real break up, is kind of a separation... here again you can use seduction, influence, dark stuff... (i will show some later)...
The women breaking point.- when women reach the breaking point her emotional capital, her attraction or level of investment for you is gone.... If you try at this point to try to get the girl with sales, influence, dark seduction, jealousy plots, manipulation... Ain't going to work brother... If you want to listen to Mr. pua go ahead try it... The only thing i do in breaking point is a ball on your court text or letter (hail marry) or talk, with the explicit notice that you want to work it out but you will leave it to her it takes two, and you will no contact her anymore... (sub)
Here is what happens post breaking point using seduction, sales, tactics, dark seduction etc.... NOTHING! is not going to work but you can go ahead and field test, she knows what you are doing and it won't work, you can even fuck a girl in front of her, and that will make her happy, she is trying to rid of you, she is over you...
So what about post breaking point trying to give in her former issues with the relationships:
well the timing is off, and she knows you have no leverage and you are going to come across in scarcity, NEEDY, and manipulative... And this will push her away more and DISGUST HER..... You probably are going to be confused and super frustrated: - all the shit i did for her, all the history we have together.... How can she be so heartless...
guys think that they have an emotional investment bank account on the women and keeps growing and she owes you dividends.... That is not how it works, post break in point all that shit mean nothing, you are shit, you are a nobody, you are shit to her and dead to her.... She still somewhere cares but not in a romantic/sexual way....
- The relationship is over you should move on, no contact, she is dead you move on.... That is the right action, the only action that works post BREAKING POINT.... A lot of the dudes even in this forum are talking about shit that works in soft break ups, check out stages... Good luck trying to do that shit post actual breaking point...
The only proven technique that work post breaking point is NOT CONTACT, so she can re- set the hard ware, start missing you, forget the bad shit, and just focus on the good part about the relationships....
If you try to contact her, seduce, negotiate you are just wasting your time post breaking point... If you want you can ping after no contact couple of months after, just to see how she reacts (i personally would not even do this)....
Guys can not take the no contact because is super tough, they are in pain, they are hopeless.... Getting back with an ex is so retarded what a waste of my time writing all this... Only time to get back with ex is if you have changed a core issue or she has (unlikely) or if it was a major misunderstanding
There are some no contact techniques that work: Posting a really look max picture of you in social media, having other women.... The having other women at times looks try hard, there was even services were guys hire a women to pretend to be girlfriend to make other women jealous... I try both things at different times(no paying actual women that i got) and got women pinging... but i was still no contact...
About no contact, not all women are going to sleep with other men during no contact...
- no contact is not a pua technique, is the right course of action...
But yes sometimes during check out stages she may be entertaining orbiters and other candidates... and yes some will sleep with someone else or date, so what... is out of your control... (you are not together who the fuck cares)....
In this case he is a rebound and she is happy and in honeymoon, she will then be blinded by honeymoon new relationship excitement... After this period has passed, the flaws of the guys will come out.... and she will be "oh fuck did i make a mistake" and second guess her decision...
THIS IS MY OWN NEEDINESS THEORY.- I believe a women is like a cat and that they will punish dudes in neediness and scarcity, she will feel it even if she is mars and you live in earth.... is some weird cosmic feel.... and soon as you are out of neediness and scarcity, she will ping... Again this has been my experience..... I would have never in a million years would think my ex of 10 years would ping and she did multiple times as per the break up video (i explained that)...
here is a good videos on the no contact dynamic matches my experience:
Before we start I have done posts on how to enter a relationship right and a really good one by the rev. on my blog on what to look for a girlfriend and keep her, and really comprehensive post on break ups.... I also think that getting back with your ex post hard next (a real definite break up) is the dumb and retarded....
We had a silly post which to be honest got a million replies, but is all fucked up... Like the girl should not have been main, and the dude did not know how to manage expectations which is crucial in a relationship... Like we are talking about a break up when the girl had no idea she was a main, i have a post on managing expectations were i go in detail on this issue...
Ok so this will be a comprehensive pre-emptive post on dynamics:
So this is how relationships operate, usually if you done everything right, you have a cool main.... She will start shit testing and testing boundaries and she will try betatizations attempts(this is usually after couple of months).... If you pass this she will be chill, and every once in a blue moon, may try again but no really.... And this is not what i am talking about....
The girl will have a legit concern from you that she is expecting and rooting for you to correct... It could be a million things: drugs, alcohol, physical or emotional harm, religion, family, financial issue, baby mama issue, wominazer issue, lack of progression issue... It could be ____________ fill in the blank a million and 1 things... Keep in mind this is not the shit test, betatization attempts, boundary testing... In other words this is at the point were she gave up on those attempts.... (the stuff people don't get the context and think we are talking lse girls, jesus)
It is an actual legit concern that is nagging in the background and she will bring it up in different ways indirectly, usually never direct (but they will eventually get so tire and bring it direct at times).... I usually take care of this before it gets there... But mainly she will ignore a bit and just gets real and amplify during check out (wake up periods)...
^ In addition in every relationship there will be a small build up, of misunderstanding, resentment, hurt.... as the time goes by a combination of the issues or an issue happening in the present will make the girl snap but don't get scare is a very gradual process...
When she get that MINI "snap" she will start the process of checking out gradually.... You will feel the check out, by she being withdrawn, she being a bit less sweet and a bit hardent and distant.... HERE IS THE TIME WERE YOU CAN WORK ON THE REALTIONSHIP, pre break up.... That is were you can do different relationship stuff, i personally i just talk to the girl normal and find out what the issue is (careful, sometimes is not even something with you but it could be work or life, so make sure is something with you and not something else).... Here you will address the issue, if is something that is not an attempt of shit test, betatization etc.. usually is not at this stage... With seducers the main one is lack of progression and other women...
Checking out stages can be fix.--- even when she start withdrawing and ghosting, this can be fix.... you can use influence and seduction and even dark stuff if lse and the likes...
also you have something call soft break ups, is when she snap and break up but is not a real break up, is kind of a separation... here again you can use seduction, influence, dark stuff... (i will show some later)...
The women breaking point.- when women reach the breaking point her emotional capital, her attraction or level of investment for you is gone.... If you try at this point to try to get the girl with sales, influence, dark seduction, jealousy plots, manipulation... Ain't going to work brother... If you want to listen to Mr. pua go ahead try it... The only thing i do in breaking point is a ball on your court text or letter (hail marry) or talk, with the explicit notice that you want to work it out but you will leave it to her it takes two, and you will no contact her anymore... (sub)
Here is what happens post breaking point using seduction, sales, tactics, dark seduction etc.... NOTHING! is not going to work but you can go ahead and field test, she knows what you are doing and it won't work, you can even fuck a girl in front of her, and that will make her happy, she is trying to rid of you, she is over you...
So what about post breaking point trying to give in her former issues with the relationships:
well the timing is off, and she knows you have no leverage and you are going to come across in scarcity, NEEDY, and manipulative... And this will push her away more and DISGUST HER..... You probably are going to be confused and super frustrated: - all the shit i did for her, all the history we have together.... How can she be so heartless...
guys think that they have an emotional investment bank account on the women and keeps growing and she owes you dividends.... That is not how it works, post break in point all that shit mean nothing, you are shit, you are a nobody, you are shit to her and dead to her.... She still somewhere cares but not in a romantic/sexual way....
- The relationship is over you should move on, no contact, she is dead you move on.... That is the right action, the only action that works post BREAKING POINT.... A lot of the dudes even in this forum are talking about shit that works in soft break ups, check out stages... Good luck trying to do that shit post actual breaking point...
The only proven technique that work post breaking point is NOT CONTACT, so she can re- set the hard ware, start missing you, forget the bad shit, and just focus on the good part about the relationships....
If you try to contact her, seduce, negotiate you are just wasting your time post breaking point... If you want you can ping after no contact couple of months after, just to see how she reacts (i personally would not even do this)....
Guys can not take the no contact because is super tough, they are in pain, they are hopeless.... Getting back with an ex is so retarded what a waste of my time writing all this... Only time to get back with ex is if you have changed a core issue or she has (unlikely) or if it was a major misunderstanding
There are some no contact techniques that work: Posting a really look max picture of you in social media, having other women.... The having other women at times looks try hard, there was even services were guys hire a women to pretend to be girlfriend to make other women jealous... I try both things at different times(no paying actual women that i got) and got women pinging... but i was still no contact...
About no contact, not all women are going to sleep with other men during no contact...
- no contact is not a pua technique, is the right course of action...
But yes sometimes during check out stages she may be entertaining orbiters and other candidates... and yes some will sleep with someone else or date, so what... is out of your control... (you are not together who the fuck cares)....
In this case he is a rebound and she is happy and in honeymoon, she will then be blinded by honeymoon new relationship excitement... After this period has passed, the flaws of the guys will come out.... and she will be "oh fuck did i make a mistake" and second guess her decision...
THIS IS MY OWN NEEDINESS THEORY.- I believe a women is like a cat and that they will punish dudes in neediness and scarcity, she will feel it even if she is mars and you live in earth.... is some weird cosmic feel.... and soon as you are out of neediness and scarcity, she will ping... Again this has been my experience..... I would have never in a million years would think my ex of 10 years would ping and she did multiple times as per the break up video (i explained that)...
here is a good videos on the no contact dynamic matches my experience:
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