Wealth Earning money online ( 2022)

[Spyce D]

So , i came across this thread from 2014

Starting out Making Money Online

Hey guys, Off topic for GC but wondering if anyone out there has experience with this? I have some ideas rattling around my head and I've done some research but it's very difficult to tell what advice is legit, what works, what doesn't, how long things take, etc... Some ideas: - Freelancing...

www.skilledseducer.com

And it has got some really dope advice.

But , i want to know that what different strategies should I use as i am starting now ( nearly 8 years after that article) ?

Also , @Chase you talked about copywriting , do you think it is still good for earning money now ?

 

[Chase]

@ThisIndianGuy,

But , i want to know that what different strategies should I use as i am starting now ( nearly 8 years after that article) ?

Also , @Chase you talked about copywriting , do you think it is still good for earning money now ?

You are never going to find a better time to get into freelancing than right now.

It is literally impossible to hire people right now. There is record unemployment, weird hysteria, civil unrest, insane levels of real inflation, and people have responded to all this by... not working. It's kind of nuts. And has been going on throughout the coronavirus thing.

I have multiple times tried hiring for roles and been completely unable to fill them. People won't apply for roles, they flake off, and it's not even like you're not offering enough pay or the job's not good... this is before you even reach the point where you're talking about pay. People just are not looking for work.

Most recently we had to hire a project manager, so I got a job post up for that. We had a little over 30 applicants... not great, but better than nothing. Two seemed very qualified, and three more seemed like they might fit the role. Of these five candidates, two didn't respond to my first message to them (replying to their application) at all, one turned out to only be available a couple hours a week, and only one ended up completing the skill assessment, earning a score of 62%.

I am seeing stuff from restaurant owners talking about how they can't find enough people to fill their shifts, small business owners saying they can't get help to run their stores, all sorts of things. No one wants to work right now.

I have my theories on why, but all I can say for now is it is for sure a seller's market.

It won't stay that way forever though, so... get in while the getting's good, I suppose.

As for copywriting, that'll be good until people stop selling things. When people stop selling things, there won't be a need for copy any longer, but you're also going to have bigger problems at that point than holding down a job, so yes, that one's not going anywhere anytime soon.

Chase

 

[trashKENNUT]

I am seeing stuff from restaurant owners talking about how they can't find enough people to fill their shifts, small business owners saying they can't get help to run their stores, all sorts of things. No one wants to work right now.

Perhaps the world needs to change it's messaging?

"We need leaders now. Not jobs."

Sidenote: that is a good slogan. I am running for President

And that is the first bypass. The second bypass is the everpresent MLM team building model.

Except that all bosses including myself who is planning to hire within a few years, must ACTUALLY FULFILLED.

One of my biggest resentment in jobs is NETWORK MARKETING PROMISES. Their leaders are so full of crap that they make Black Lifes Matter look reasonable.

TLDR: I hope you consider seeing my point of view. I remember you wrote a post on having the boss to actually run thru the first day with the new employee, actually made them feel involved.

z@c+

 

[Starboy]

@ThisIndianGuy,



You are never going to find a better time to get into freelancing than right now.

It is literally impossible to hire people right now. There is record unemployment, weird hysteria, civil unrest, insane levels of real inflation, and people have responded to all this by... not working. It's kind of nuts. And has been going on throughout the coronavirus thing.

I have multiple times tried hiring for roles and been completely unable to fill them. People won't apply for roles, they flake off, and it's not even like you're not offering enough pay or the job's not good... this is before you even reach the point where you're talking about pay. People just are not looking for work.

Most recently we had to hire a project manager, so I got a job post up for that. We had a little over 30 applicants... not great, but better than nothing. Two seemed very qualified, and three more seemed like they might fit the role. Of these five candidates, two didn't respond to my first message to them (replying to their application) at all, one turned out to only be available a couple hours a week, and only one ended up completing the skill assessment, earning a score of 62%.

I am seeing stuff from restaurant owners talking about how they can't find enough people to fill their shifts, small business owners saying they can't get help to run their stores, all sorts of things. No one wants to work right now.

I have my theories on why, but all I can say for now is it is for sure a seller's market.

It won't stay that way forever though, so... get in while the getting's good, I suppose.

As for copywriting, that'll be good until people stop selling things. When people stop selling things, there won't be a need for copy any longer, but you're also going to have bigger problems at that point than holding down a job, so yes, that one's not going anywhere anytime soon.

Chase

Chase when it comes to learning a skill for freelancing approximately how long would you estimate it would take to be able to earn a sustainable income that would let you not have to work for other employers to get by. Is this something that can be done in months or does it actually take years to be able to make the kind of hustle that would make the time and monry spent learning the skill worth it?

I inquired here about whether you can make money from being skilled in using Microsoft Excel and I did my own research on it and there is a market for it. But I really struggle with committing myself to learning it. I got a course from udemy and i'm barely halfway through. Even when I have free time I just don't have the attention span to spend the time wisely to sit down and absorb information from the course.

Idk if it's because I don't really have a passion for this kind of work or if it's because i'm just terrible at keeping myself focused on learning long ardous processes. It's the same with pickup I struggle with keeping myself motivated and looking at the bigger picture in the future instead of what i'm feeling right now. Is the effort aversion associated with learning online skills similiar with trying to learn pickup?

 

[trashKENNUT]

Chase when it comes to learning a skill for freelancing approximately how long would you estimate it would take to be able to earn a sustainable income that would let you not have to work for other employers to get by. Is this something that can be done in months or does it actually take years to be able to make the kind of hustle that would make the time and monry spent learning the skill worth it?

Mainly, it's your own P&L. (Profit and loss)

It doesn't take years. It is more of like marketing and then keeping them and not spend money like a motherfucker.

z@c+

 

[Chase]

@ZacAdam,

Perhaps the world needs to change it's messaging?

"We need leaders now. Not jobs."

You'd be surprised at how many job posts are written. A lot of them are written about "opportunities for growth", "be your own boss", "lead a team", "grow with our company", etc. Assuming that is what you meant. I actually learned to avoid those kinds of jobs when I was in high school / college because most of them end up being jobs where you have to do absolutely everything for very little money / a tiny commission.

The issue we seem to be having right now is an economic one, not a messaging one. The value of money is declining, pay is not going up nearly as fast, governments are giving out free money to people, and people in general are discombobulated from all the hysteria going on. It's a really weird time right now.


@Starboy,

Chase when it comes to learning a skill for freelancing approximately how long would you estimate it would take to be able to earn a sustainable income that would let you not have to work for other employers to get by. Is this something that can be done in months or does it actually take years to be able to make the kind of hustle that would make the time and monry spent learning the skill worth it?

I imagine it would depend on the skill. However, you don't need to master something to start making money from it. The smartest option is to get a baseline in it, then start getting jobs that pay you to learn.

I inquired here about whether you can make money from being skilled in using Microsoft Excel and I did my own research on it and there is a market for it. But I really struggle with committing myself to learning it. I got a course from udemy and i'm barely halfway through. Even when I have free time I just don't have the attention span to spend the time wisely to sit down and absorb information from the course.

Idk if it's because I don't really have a passion for this kind of work or if it's because i'm just terrible at keeping myself focused on learning long ardous processes. It's the same with pickup I struggle with keeping myself motivated and looking at the bigger picture in the future instead of what i'm feeling right now. Is the effort aversion associated with learning online skills similiar with trying to learn pickup?

I learned Excel partly in college, then later working for a Fortune 500 company. All the work I had in Excel I had to do, so I just had to learn it, and got paid to. Though I never learned macros / VBA.

If you want my recommendation, it'd be a.) take a class in it to learn the basics, then b.) start taking jobs in it that'll force you to learn and improve in it. No better way to learn than getting paid to do it with a deadline to complete it, so you're forced to haul ass and figure out a way to get it done!

Chase

 

[trashKENNUT]

And that is the first bypass. The second bypass is the everpresent MLM team building model.

Except that all bosses including myself who is planning to hire within a few years, must ACTUALLY FULFILLED.

One of my biggest resentment in jobs is NETWORK MARKETING PROMISES. Their leaders are so full of crap that they make Black Lifes Matter look reasonable.

@Chase

I mean, actually fulfilling the support system.
The messaging is the first part.

Sidenote:

To bring my ego into this, I could have done a whole lot more if my network marketing bosses actually try to teach me.

I did bring in the sales. To them, I was just a downline. And that's fine I guess. Just somebody I will never want to work with.

z@c+

Not to discount your side. The insight you gave, is very real.

 

[trashKENNUT]

How to put this correctly...
Fuck.

A global resentment, if that makes sense. :/

z@c+

 

[DoWhatWorks]

Chase when it comes to learning a skill for freelancing approximately how long would you estimate it would take to be able to earn a sustainable income that would let you not have to work for other employers to get by. Is this something that can be done in months or does it actually take years to be able to make the kind of hustle that would make the time and monry spent learning the skill worth it?

I inquired here about whether you can make money from being skilled in using Microsoft Excel and I did my own research on it and there is a market for it. But I really struggle with committing myself to learning it. I got a course from udemy and i'm barely halfway through. Even when I have free time I just don't have the attention span to spend the time wisely to sit down and absorb information from the course.

Idk if it's because I don't really have a passion for this kind of work or if it's because i'm just terrible at keeping myself focused on learning long ardous processes. It's the same with pickup I struggle with keeping myself motivated and looking at the bigger picture in the future instead of what i'm feeling right now. Is the effort aversion associated with learning online skills similiar with trying to learn pickup?

Just to give you food for thought man who says you need to fulfil the work yourself?

You can focus on sales and getting clients then paying someone else to fulfil the work.

Obviously you’ll get less money but if you aren’t interested in the skill then the trade off is worth it.

Can find freelancers on Upwork, Fiverr and can even Google white label services where companies specialise in just that

Good Luck!