FR Ego DESTRUCTION session in London

[average_daygamer]

Well, after the high of the insta date this week, I needed a reality check and I sure as hell got it!

I already had a pre-booked ticket to London anyway, but it was perfect timing to get me down from my high and potential oneitus.

And boy did it deliver!

I couldn't get a single hook on Oxford and Regent's street, which I was patrolling for most of the day.

Hell, I couldn't even front stop properly.

I'm not going to give a break down of approaches but anything front stop related lead to an utter blowout. Sometimes no words just dodging around me. I got about 4 sets to stop and exchange formalities before rushing off.

Front stop problem

Part of the reason is that there simply wasn't enough space to wheel around like you are supposed to in the front stop. So it was more like cutting in from the side and getting right in front, which lead to a startled girl and blowing the set.

The girls are also rushing like crazy so if they dodge around you, you will have to run to catch back up and this may elicit a panic reaction from the girl if she did deliberately ignore you.

Side approach more successful

I found the side approach more successful in terms of girls receiving compliments. The front stop lead to immediate blowouts causing no chance to even say anything.

Did I spot a forum member?

There was a British black guy in a brown coat gaming a pair of Jehovah's witness people at a stand outside one of the underground stations. I saw dowhatworks is a black guy so it might have been him!

Approach count

If we are counting approaches including blowouts I must have done about 25, some of them being low effort, admittedly.

I was getting plenty of cringe reactions even in London. Oxford Street and Regent's street are so busy, you are bound to see someone pretty enough to approach, but it is a case of getting to them before they have disappeared into the crowd.

Quite a few times, I aborted, because I simply couldn't close the distance between myself and the approach target.

All in all, not a successful outing, but I am going to go in for some more coaching soon, as I think my fundamentals have slipped.

 

[KnownUniverse]

I find the side approach the easiest to get engagement but my concern is it feels more intrusive and if they walk you into their boyfriend or friends they act like you're stalking them due to asd (im not worried about being attacked it's just cringe). It's more risk taking to follow the girl while gaming her but has better rewards.

 

[KnownUniverse]

A few weeks ago i opened a chick with the side approach. She was receptive, laughina at my jokes and asking me to elaborate on talking points. I thought i had this chick in the bag. we walk for a bit then she suddenly stops and starts acting weird with the darting eyes. I thought i was fumbling the bag but no - her boyfriend rocks up and confronts me. Asks me what i want? she pretends like im some crazy guy following her. She was just using me for validation and to make her bf jealous.

This girl last night I opened at the bar who was being receptive and even gave me permission to approach her closer but then would act disgusted every time i tried to escalate and she kept looking over my shoulder and pretending like im harassing her. She was just trying to show off to her friend group/love interests who were watching from the seating area.

About a month ago i open a chick at the bar and first thing i do is check for avaliability. I ask her "are you by yourself?". And she's like "what do you mean?". and i say "are you with your friends or boyfriend?" and she says "um... I'm with some girlfriends..." so i say "That's good, so i can talk to you then?" and she says yes so i get close to her and start escalating and she looks across the bar and points out some dude staring at us and says "thats my husband over there".

 

[average_daygamer]

A few weeks ago i opened a chick with the side approach. She was receptive, laughina at my jokes and asking me to elaborate on talking points. I thought i had this chick in the bag. we walk for a bit then she suddenly stops and starts acting weird with the darting eyes. I thought i was fumbling the bag but no - her boyfriend rocks up and confronts me. Asks me what i want? she pretends like im some crazy guy following her. She was just using me for validation and to make her bf jealous.

This girl last night I opened at the bar who was being receptive and even gave me permission to approach her closer but then would act disgusted every time i tried to escalate and she kept looking over my shoulder and pretending like im harassing her. She was just trying to show off to her friend group/love interests who were watching from the seating area.

About a month ago i open a chick at the bar and first thing i do is check for avaliability. I ask her "are you by yourself?". And she's like "what do you mean?". and i say "are you with your friends or boyfriend?" and she says "um... I'm with some girlfriends..." so i say "That's good, so i can talk to you then?" and she says yes so i get close to her and start escalating and she looks across the bar and points out some dude staring at us and says "thats my husband over there".

Man, that is rough how they used you for validation.

I have probably had that too although not been aware of it.

In the boyfriend scenario just tell a white lie and say you were homeless and asking her for change.

Even if you are bigger than the guy, it could cause a primal reaction which would give him a sense of righteous fury as he sees you trying to steal his reproductive opportunity.

I am not convinced on this argument against the side approach, though. Generally, if they keep walking it is a sign of disinterest. A front stop is likely to cause more fury if she has a boyfriend than a side approach.

The reason is because the front stop is more disruptive and more like you are violating his girl. A side approach is more discreet and can be seen as a more casual interaction.

 

[KnownUniverse]

I am not convinced on this argument against the side approach, though. Generally, if they keep walking it is a sign of disinterest. A front stop is likely to cause more fury if she has a boyfriend than a side approach.

i guess i've got trust issues.

I watched Todd V video where he was mass approaching back in the day when PUA was mainstream. If i recall a lot of the girls didnt stop he kept walking with them and got their numbers.

I'm not worried about getting attacked by BFs I just dont like being turned into a laughing stock.