Entering into a relationship with a marriage/long-term minded woman

[raiden]

I'm a complete beginner so I am only going from what I have read on GC. From what I understand, to get into a relationship (like a girlfriend) with a woman here's what you should do.
a. Date as many women as you can, including her.
b. Go on great dates with her, do all the intimate stuff and make it great, including all of the romantic/lovey kind of things such as holding her close, sleeping over etc.
c. Wait for her to suggest that you two become exclusive and then say yes.
d. Run a good relationship
From what I understand, you can screw up b by moving too slowly and you can screw up c by asking for commitment yourself.

How would the stuff here change if you're looking to date a conservative or marriage-minded woman who is not going to go for sex until you two are solidly together for a long time, or discussing engagement, or engaged or even married? A lot of guys guys I know have met women like that where they didn't go to bed until several months in and their relationships are going strongly. In this case you can't do b. Do you still wait for her to suggest in c or do you suggest it?

 

[Orchard]

I suggest spending some time with female friends and learning more about women. I also suggest some conservative social groups like Churches and faith based single groups.

seduction has a lot of pre marital sex as a goal; while I happen to think you generally need some sexual experience, I don’t think your goals are aligned with much of the seduction content on the site.
That said, I think the seduction content here that MIGHT help is maintaining frame and social game. I think you should also know how attraction works as well as being comfortable being physical without sex. Kissing, oral sex, pleasuring a woman, fingering, erotic touch: all of these should eventually be on the table previous to Christian-oriented penetrative sex (experientially)

With some women you meet at church, you should be going on dates 2-3 times before shading out physical vibes. Also do not place women on or below a pedestal (as much Christian ideology would have you do) learn to orient your brain that they are humans just like you and are not perfect.
Good luck.

 

[OldGuy]

I have had relationships with church girls that got to the proposal stage and was turned down. One later told me that if we had had sex, we might of gotten married, the other tried a jealousy ploy (Maybe, but there is a sexy new guy) in answer to my proposal. If I had realized that meant lay me and we will see, she would probably be my wife. The marriage minded aren't interested in sexless guys, so you should lay them. I have had some that there was no second date because there was no sex on the first one.