Ex-boyfriend still in the picture

[Skills]

It's really none of your business unless you're actually in a relationship with her or looking at her as someone you actually want to be in a relationship with (which is why you're even talking about it?).

She's not ready to be in a relationship, as far as I can tell, based on what you've said here, at least with you.




I don't know why you would do this side by side comparison... women get into relationships and stay with guys because of how they feel, not because of a list of things on a side by side comparison chart.



You need to be the same way... always one step behind her... most women will make it known when they are ready for something real.

Just let her keep investing, just keep building emotional relevance, etc.



Almost every woman I date for any extended period of time wants to marry me and have my babies... it's rare that they don't... even if they are complete sluts... they want to give up their ways and just be with me.

I've had a number of girls swear off other men they were seeing, break up with their boyfriends, and verbally commit themselves to me, even if they were long-term open relationship type women.

I disagree with what others are saying here... you only do FWB stuff with girls you want to remain as FWB... with girls that you want to be in relationships with, ime, you treat them differently.

You eye gaze them, you see them as often as they want to see you, you let them build a strong emotional attachment to you, but you keep one foot out the door and act like you don't give a shit one way or another until she's all in.

Don't worry about her other guy... don't even pay him any mind. If she talks about him, talk him up and say that he sounds like a really nice guy... if he's not a nice guy, say that you think he probably means well in his heart and you think he's secretly a big lovie dovie guy at home.

Then don't talk about him again... don't worry about him... encourage her to hang out with whoever she wants to because she isn't yours yet.



It's funny, I always hear these red pill guys spouting this shit like it's some kind of commandment from a deity or some shit. I've always been curious why they're repeat it over and over again.

I had some guy say that to me in person one time and I was like, "Yeah... I'm not hers, it's just her turn with me too... what the fuck is your point?"

But I can see if guys are getting overly attached to women who are running around on them, how that mindset might be useful... but other than that, I don't really see why they repeat it like it's some kind of overly meaningful thing to say.

Just always had me curious... I mean, it must be meaningful to some people if they say it over and over again, right?

^ this is correct!

 

[Skills]

Finally, a fucking realist. Same reason i respect @Skills I get the whole seduce as many women as possible, but I never took Girlschase to be a 100% seduction site- rather its more of a lifestyle site. There's things about business, fashion, love, LTRs, women, lifestyle, etc.

Obviously 80% of it is seduction but it overlaps with social skills as a whole. When I started reading 10 years ago, the website made me not only into a seducer, but a better man overall.

There have been moments in my life where I wanted nothing but pure hedonistic frenzies, threesomes, orgies, girl after girl. I'm approaching a triple figure count lay at this age. But once in a while you find a chick you vibe with and I think you'd be doing yourself an injustice if you don't atleast give it a shot. Worst case scenario, you learn a lesson and keep moving forward. This site makes you into the kind of man that can pick himself up, dust himself off, and move onto the next thing.

The whole "she's not your girlfriend, it's just your turn" breeds resentment and mistrust imo, leads to manipulative tactics (that are aimed to be to the benefit of you alone and not both of you), and never lets you fully put your walls and guard down.

I say fuck all that- were human and if we're not doing this all for love at the end of the day, then what are we doing it all for anyways?

hold on, what i said is if your goal is to find a girlfriend, you need to go through the VETTING PROCESS properly (guys with more experience can cut corners on the vetting cause of experience).... Ideally you want to date couple of women (dating for me is dick in pussy).... From those women you will tend to favor 1 for whatever reason, more chemestry/compatability etc... after couple of months 3-6 months if she wins you over that is when you date her... Mono if is your thing ok... Look i hooked up this dude in a party (in one of the videos), with a girl, he already moved in with the girl in fucking week, fuck my life, i regret hooking that guy up....... Another student i show the 3 bounce method, started getting laid got a girl got her prego and move in.... This is exactly what NOT TO DO. guys rush through the vetting process, cause is a lot harder to seduce different women and have them compete and grind...

 

[moom]

hold on, what i said is if your goal is to find a girlfriend, you need to go through the VETTING PROCESS properly (guys with more experience can cut corners on the vetting cause of experience).... Ideally you want to date couple of women (dating for me is dick in pussy).... From those women you will tend to favor 1 for whatever reason, more chemestry/compatability etc... after couple of months 3-6 months if she wins you over that is when you date her... Mono if is your thing ok... Look i hooked up this dude in a party (in one of the videos), with a girl, he already moved in with the girl in fucking week, fuck my life, i regret hooking that guy up....... Another student i show the 3 bounce method, started getting laid got a girl got her prego and move in.... This is exactly what NOT TO DO. guys rush through the vetting process, cause is a lot harder to seduce different women and have them compete and grind...

I'm definitely not going in blind- I'm current sleeping with 2 girls with a 3rd option I'm really close to laying.

I also have 2 other girls out of town currently that I could meet up with at any given moment.

I've vetted this girl, she's a compatible fit but I'm taking my time, still poking prodding and testing to see how good she'll be.

 

[moom]

One way or another, I’ll update everyone here in a few months after seeing how it plays out.

 

[Alpha13SC]

I'm with @Vision here on every aspect here.

It appears that you're a bit in your head with the emotions. First, realize that they're all an illusion. It's just brain chemistry. As for them, but I bet we as men can be more conscious about this.

The ex boyfriend shouldn't be your problem. In fact, it should matter how she's treating you, not others. If there is a problem on this side, then you should question something.

What I could possibly do in this situation is to cuckolding him through jokes about him or other things. I tend to do that, in a funny way, and she s laughing more than I could imagine, feeling a little bit bad, but then she's getting along with me. A light way to do it can be "hey, I want a best friend like that, to carry my stuff. maybe you could introduce him to me" and so on. This is an example, but you get the idea.

From my perspective, it's more like a frame battle between you and him. And he has events in the past where he lost it. Be the secret lover, she s already investing, continue and let her bring the relationship. At one point she ll be thinking about this.


Coming with a personal story: Had a fuck buddy somehow similar in this situation, but I didn't want a relationship with her. One time she actually told me she cried because of a story he posted(I already locked her in). I just listened to her, the fuck her. She got attached to me. We split up when I started to spend a lot of time with her because of the comfort and she thought I wanted a relationship. I didn't, but it went like that.

For some reason, I tend to attract girls who just got out of relationships and exbf sometime is still in the picture. Doing your thing and maintaining frame is making him an orbiter.

IMH, continue what you're doing, because you're doing good.

 

[Alpha13SC]

Comparing that guy to me though, its kind of a joke lol. I:
1) Slept way faster with her (same night)
2) Like 4 inches taller (which doesnt matter much i know)
3) Definitely way more experienced both socially and sexually
4) Sexier 100%
5) More dominant for sure
6) Not sure who the sex has been better with yet
7) Older than him by like 7 years
8) Wealthier, cooler, and more life experiences

This list is utterly bullshit man. Never do that again. It's like she s making her mind for best option and you're helping her choosing him.

This should be the attitude. She's already seeing you as the dick in her life. Continue what you're doing.