Experienced with 18yo hotties?

[Railer]

Hey brothers. Every now and then I "run" into a girl like this. Maybe some of you can help me figure them out, as I've never been able to.

Rough profile of

- her: 18yo, very slim, hot bikini pics & bathroom selfies, Tinder in this case
- me: three pics & just the languages I speak & my hight in the text

Here's the convo. Her texts in bold for better readability:

1. (I super-like her)
2. Hi [in three different languages]
3. i don't know in which language to speak
4. hehe you know all of them?
5. Hahahaha [language-3] no
6. don't worry. mine ain't very good neither hehehe
7. Hahaha good!!
8. what are you doing?
9. nothing you??? just arriving home
10. right now watching Lost
11. anyway not for much longer as tomorrow a friend will leave the country and I want to say good bye
12. ah nice the series is great
13. cool
14. great
15. yes, but loooong. i'm recently at the fourth season
16. Hahahah yees very
17. you finished it already?
18. No no
19. i watched it quite some time ago
20. but uff ... when it was on tv
21. aaah hehehe yes it's some years already
22. wanna interchange whatsapp instead of writing here?
23. Hahaha yesyes
24. here 555123456
25. (the following day on whatsapp)
26. good morning, it's [me] from tinder
27. Morning! all good?
28. suree
29. just came home from [exercise] and now about to leave to enjoy the sunset
30. Haha well!! very nice day today
31. Why "[name]" as name on tinder?
32. (an hour later)
33. hi
34. ah because i got kind of a chaos regarding my accounts
35. Ahhh Hahahaha
36. how was your day today?
37. add me 'cause I wanna see your photooo
38. Ahahhaha super nice yours
39. Hah well
40. hehe thanks. same to you. just missing a little bit of a smile [kiss-heart smiley]
41. Hahahhahaha
42. 

As you see she's opened me first, but then in the conversation she's mostly responding with laughs. I wonder what might be going on inside of her: Is she insecure and thus not writing back anything with more sense? Is she just bored and is that the reason for her chatting with me in the first place? Or does she simply know hot she is thus not used to putting in a lot of effort?

My impression is hot + very young = not very invested; flaky

Anyway, anybody with experience (and success) with such specific girls? Is there a chance for a meet? .. and how could I get to a point where she's fine with it? .. and actually shows up?

 

[Bboy100]

First: Here's a very long and detailed outline of what we do on Tinder: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11121
I wrote two important posts. One is the very first one, and the second is one of the long ones which talks about how to construct a good profile. Feel free to look through all the others too. They're just little things we've discovered while using Tinder for the past year. My demographic should be pretty similar to yours. The girls I usually meet off Tinder are anywhere between 18-22. Usually 18 or 19 though.

As for why she's giving such short answers, there are two things going on:
1. Your convo isn't very engaging. You're not really getting past small talk. You have to ask her questions about herself and relate to them. Just talking about a bunch of random TV shows and asking her what she's doing over text won't do you any good. Remember, this is online not IRL. You have to be a lot more concise and effective with your words to makeup for the loss of body launguage and vocal tonality.
2. Most girls get a LOT of messages and don't feel like replying to all of them with long-winded replies. You can get past this by asking her out and meeting her in person or by making fun of her for her short replies. But before you do any of that, make sure to do #1.

 

[Richard]

I don't see you asking her anything that gets her talking and pushes things forward. You two swapped numbers but still, you didn't provide any substance for her to bite on to keep talking.

That being said, the answer is simple, ask better questions.

-Richard

 

[Railer]

Thank you for your hints.

Two days later I went back to texting her. We chatted for about an hour. Then, pause for an hour and some more messages afterwards;

I guessed (correctly) what she studied and then had us entertained with her guessing about my field.

As you guys suggested, I tried to find things to relate to. Check these snippets:

1. what do you like to do on weekends?
2. go out hahaha you
3. [...]
4. and before the night, during the days?
5. hmm i don't know go running and stuff
6. go running? nooo you are much more laid back than that. really?
7. [...]
8. some day we go together [to surf] with easy waves - if you like
9. hahahaha ok that would be nice
10. We should go and have [drink] tomorrow so we get to know each other in real live at least
11. jajaja m. i don't drink that
12. What do you drink?
13. Favorite drink?
14. Any, but I don't like this one too much.
15. Do you live here?
16. [...]

I persisted and actually found out a little more about her (note the [...] parts; it was ~100 messages total).

I contacted her again the following night and she actually reinitiated convo yesterday night ("hahahah how're you?").

So far, I didn't respond yet. My initial question is still valid: How do I get to a date? I mean she confirms that going to surf would be nice, but I don't really believe she actually would go if I invited her specifically. Notice that she changes the topic when I ask her for going for a drink.

I wonder what to do next. Just keeping on texting to get her more comfortable for a future meet? Or would that rather get her bored with me? Pushing for a meet on the other hand would likely have her stop convo for having her feel uneasy?

Is it bad to not respond for a couple of days? Or can it actually help? Will she forget me or be more interested afterwards?

Just blasting out my thoughts that I would usually feel uncomfortable even asking ...

 

[ProblemSolving]

The good news is your pictures are probably pretty decent if you're matching with a bunch of hotties. The bad news is your process is shit for actually getting dates haha. Easy fix though. The MAX number of messages I send before asking for the meet is 5! If she's responding well I hit with "Would you like to get drinks or hot chocolate sometime?" She usually responds with "Sure drinks would be nice" then I send "Great whats your number?"

I send them an ice-breaker IMMEDIATELY. "Hey Karla, this is PS from Tindrr. Save my number "
Her: "Ok got it!"
Me: "Hey, I'm gonna call you in 7 minutes"


Call her on the phone and talk to her a bit. When you sense she is comfortable, ask her if she is free tomorrow or the next day. Don't plan a date too far in advance. The longer the time, the more like it is to flake.

In short: Move ALOT faster

 

[Bboy100]

100 message?? That's insane dude. What ProblemSolving said is correct.

She matched with you. That means she's already interested in you to at least some degree. I've literally started asking girls out on the first or second message now. And this seems to be the most effective strategy thus far. Especially if you live in a big city and have an abundance of matches.

And I mean...if you want, you can get to know them over text a little bit. But no more than 10 lines. And make sure you're asking effective questions.

Ex. What are you passionate about?
What's your story?
What do you like to do in your free time?
Why do you like [x thing that she mentioned]
What got you into [x thing that she mentioned]
Why x and not y (presumably, y is something similar to x).
...and so forth

They're very open ended, and it lets her bring up a topic that's interesting to her. This is much more effective than frantically digging around asking her vague questions and hoping something sticks. After she answers, relating to her should be pretty easy if you've read the material on the main site. Try it. I think you'll like the results.

I wonder what to do next. Just keeping on texting to get her more comfortable for a future meet? Or would that rather get her bored with me? Pushing for a meet on the other hand would likely have her stop convo for having her feel uneasy?

Is it bad to not respond for a couple of days? Or can it actually help? Will she forget me or be more interested afterwards?

A lot of girls online are like this. They aren't very invested in you, and they feel nervous/uneasy about meeting a stranger. This is a great recipe for flaky behavior. You have nothing to lose by continuing to pursue her. But frankly, I doubt it's going to go anywhere. Instead, I'd just go with one of your other 10 or 20 matches who are equally good looking. And if you don't have 10 or 20 matches like her, you need to stop worrying about what messages to send and upgrade your profile pictures instead.