Eye contact rule: Should you hold until she breaks, even If you Initiate?

[SpikeSpiegel]

i was reading this article to refresh my fundamentals https://www.girlschase.com/content/eye-contact-seduction-basics-and-advanced

and a passage says this:

>''And at last, once you have managed to get a girl to look at you, whether it is eye contact generated before or after the approach (the rules here are the same), never even consider looking away first... and never EVER look down once you look away. First of all, you want to HOLD the eye contact. This creates tension, attraction, and shows dominance (attractive). Look away first and she becomes the dominant one (rarely attractive). Yes, at some point, you do have to look away – failing to do so can be a bit “too much” and creep her out.


However, you only look away after she looks away first – she needs to look away first, then maybe a second later, you look away...''


does this mean i dont look away even if I initiate the ec? because currently if i initiate it first i hold for few seconds or so and break away slowly to the side so i dont come off as creepy or too strong (with women i havent approached yet)

 

[MrVariety]

The point isn't to have a staring contest to make one another submit to each other's dominance. The point, rather, is to display confident and attractive body language and show her you're normal and cool.

I would rather focus on the *way* you look at her, rather the mere duration. If you feel you are coming off creepy or too strong, I would encourage you to smile. I noticed after quitting caffeine that my eyes became more relaxed and mellower. I think meditation and just being an overall laid back, less needy person, give you this relaxed eyes that's comfortable. When you look at people, see if you can relax your face if there's any tension, breathe deeply with your tummy, see if you can relax any tension in the stomach as you're breathing out. Feel an "inner smile" within you as you look at them as if you truly appreciate their being and want only the best for them, and maybe let the smile show up on your face.

The idea that you should never look away first is weird to me, it should be interpreted as advice for guys who struggle with eye contact because of lack of confidence. That's all. Don't overthink the duration of eye contact. I personally like to aim for roouuughly 80% eye contact, 8 seconds on, 2 seconds off, rinse and repeat, not that I count or anything, but that's the ratio I think is best for both comfort and connection.

Mr Variety

 

[KJ Francis]

If breaking, best to do so to the side (then slight smile, look back), not downward (and if she breaks down, it's on). Breaking up is dismissal, or autorejection on her part sometimes at first sight.

If she's holding eye contact, sounds like an escalation window. Clear approach invitation. Smile, wink, wave, move towards, talk...

 

[Water69]

You DONT initiate. If she dont initaite then ur coocked

 

[SpikeSpiegel]

The point isn't to have a staring contest to make one another submit to each other's dominance. The point, rather, is to display confident and attractive body language and show her you're normal and cool.

I would rather focus on the *way* you look at her, rather the mere duration. If you feel you are coming off creepy or too strong, I would encourage you to smile. I noticed after quitting caffeine that my eyes became more relaxed and mellower. I think meditation and just being an overall laid back, less needy person, give you this relaxed eyes that's comfortable. When you look at people, see if you can relax your face if there's any tension, breathe deeply with your tummy, see if you can relax any tension in the stomach as you're breathing out. Feel an "inner smile" within you as you look at them as if you truly appreciate their being and want only the best for them, and maybe let the smile show up on your face.

The idea that you should never look away first is weird to me, it should be interpreted as advice for guys who struggle with eye contact because of lack of confidence. That's all. Don't overthink the duration of eye contact. I personally like to aim for roouuughly 80% eye contact, 8 seconds on, 2 seconds off, rinse and repeat, not that I count or anything, but that's the ratio I think is best for both comfort and connection.

Mr Variety

Thanks, but im wondering before the approach say im walking past and sometimes i happen to look first, who should break first me or her?

 

[KJ Francis]

I looked at Teevster's article again and to be honest I think if she's locked eyes, she is in waiting, so whether you keep a still face out of fear, or look away out of fear, she'll sense you were not able to pace her openness and lead. So you are kind of cooked.

Any attempt to communicate non-verbally or move it forward should be ok though, right? Like whether you smirk or raise eyebrows or whatever subtle thing to ping her response... or if you look away to get off a chair and go say hi...

"You can't look at me like that and not say hi"

 

[Will_V]

The idea that you should never look away first is weird to me, it should be interpreted as advice for guys who struggle with eye contact because of lack of confidence.

Agreed.

I like to break contact sideways, smile, pause a second and then slowly look back.

The main thing is to not let your body be used by your anxiety, but instead by your self expression.

 

[KJ Francis]

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