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FU  Failed escalation on first date at my house?

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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Last Monday I had a tinder date. The plan was to go to the supermarket, pick up ingredients and then cook dinner at mine (I know, sounds really boyfriendy but it was her suggestion and sprung pretty naturally out of our text convo, and I wasn’t going to turn down an opportunity to have her over at my place on the first date).

I thought she was going to flake because a few hours beforehand she texted me saying she had to leave work early because of a migraine after confirming we were on that morning, but she wasn’t lying because she took some medicine and came out.

We met at an ice cream shop near the supermarket beforehand. I greeted her with a hug (should I do this? I always do this to break the physical barrier early but maybe I should take her hand instead without shaking it). She was standing very close to me from the beginning. We got the ice cream, sat outside and chatted for a bit. This is when I started making an effort to really make strong eye contact with her, and I started to move my foot towards hers but I noticed she wasn’t reciprocating. No biggie.

After this we went to the supermarket and got the ingredients. At various points I teased her but there wasn’t much touching besides the occasional shoulder grab. Walking back our hands were full so couldn’t really do anything here. At home when we were cooking it was difficult to really do anything since there was so much happening in the kitchen and any move was just awkward. I tried to just close the space between us and she didn’t move away, which was a good sign.

Afterwards we sat down, drank some wine and started playing cards against humanity. I started trying to get closer but she wouldn’t really reciprocate and was inching away. At some point we were talking about music and I subtly suggested going to my room so I could show her a song that I've been making in Ableton but she didn't seem super interested. After about 30 minutes of this she said she was starting to feel the headache coming back so I gave her a bit of space. She did stay quite late though but after a while she said she was tired and the headache was too much so she left. We made out a bit at the door before she left and then she asked where the train station was – I pointed out that it was 5 minutes away and offered to walk her there but she said it was ok.

When I texted her the next morning asking if she was alright she said that she had fallen asleep on the train and ended up 40 minutes past her stop. I teased her about that and then asked if she managed to get a train back (since it might have been too late and the last one might have already left) but got no response.

Two days later I texted asking if she was free again, but she said she was working and had two exams next week she needed to study for that she was stressed about (she also had one two days after this date – I’m surprised she came out) and that we wouldn’t be able to hang out for a while. I said we’d raincheck it and that was two days ago.

The fact that she was very keen to come on the date to my place two days before her exam, despite recovering from a headache, leads me to think she was expecting something more and I didn’t escalate properly. But then again, it might have just been that she was struggling with the headache and so was a little spacey. Hard one to read.

I’m going to try and set something up again in one-two weeks but I have a feeling I’m not going to see her a second time.
 

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Cro-Magnon Man
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Yeah she isn't into you. Don't take it personally...

When a woman is into you she doesn't offer any excuses.

you almost have to be animated and flirty from the get go to seed that touchy feely vibe that leads to a wild hookup...But she has to be open to it too. If you don't lead she can't follow.
 
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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Hey FT, thanks for the advice!

Yeah she isn't into you. Don't take it personally...

When a woman is into you she doesn't offer any excuses.

You're right. Of course, not what I wanted to hear but it's true.

you almost have to be animated and flirty from the get go to seed that touchy feely vibe that leads to a wild hookup...But she has to be open to it too. If you don't lead she can't follow.

Yeah, this is so against my natural personality that I've always had a tough time with it. It does come out when I'm drunk, occasionally. I'm more of a laid back "let her impress me" type, which is good for sparking attraction and getting them intrigued/ talking initially, but after a while (usually from a few minutes to a few weeks) they realize I'm not as experienced as they thought I was, and it's not worth the effort anymore. At that point, I start to realize what's happening and try to kick things into overdrive, but by that point it's too late (this is less of a problem now, I'm learning to recognize that at that point I should just let it go)

Chase talked about this in his article about a mans legitimacy

I think I'm partly this way too because I'm a pretty lazy person in general, and so unless I'm reaally into the girl (as in, she is exactly my type, I'm feeling ridiculously horny or she touches me first) I don't make that extra effort. Not masturbating doesn't seem to help much either - it just amplifies my attraction for the girls I'm already attracted to while doing nothing to make me attracted to more girls, at least visually. If they touch me it's a different story. It's really hard for me to get excited about most girls I see everyday - even though I need to to be able to to build up the skills I need. I think in a lot of ways my personality and sex drive is a lot like women's - passive, which is hugely problematic considering I'm the guy and I need to make things happen. But on the plus side I guess this gives me a really good understanding of how womens minds operate and what makes them horny, because I experience the same thing. And touch is a big one - even if a girl is not my type, if she touches me a certain way I get horny. Gotta use this to my advantage.
 

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Cro-Magnon Man
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It was a mistake to tease her about falling asleep and missing her stop. Should have been sympathetic,but you were right to ask about her getting home.
 
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