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Tribal Elder
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Sounds like you might have an issue of congruence, where you know what to say but you don't exactly come across authentically as the guy who lives that life. And that can make her push back and 'shit test' to see what's up.

Her verbalizing things contrary to the seduction frame is basically the same as her saying 'I'm not feeling this'.

How is your physical and nonverbal game? Cheek kissing is not something I would do at all - at least go for the neck or something, or just put your lips near her hair/ear and breathe on her. A lot more seductive than cheek kissing which is probably what her mom and brothers do.

Sounds like maybe you could work on being more seductive with your physicals in general.
Bingo! yeah it seems his escalation was off, "kissing on the cheek" "lower hand in the back" in a club, jesus! the lower hand in the back it should be forbidden by death, one of the worst ever form of escalation.....

as will say you are not congruent is like a dude saying i am a multimillionaire i going to take you to a 5 start restaurant (takes a girl to macdonal) well though something i would do trolling, you get the point..... Your rico suave verbal seduction talk does not match the escalation.... The escalation told her you are not secret society.....

 
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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Gotcha, always looking for ways to get better. Will read and follow through btw @Skills your second generation verbals have always delivered for me on dates but struggle to so looking forward to learning more. I’m happy to talk about this and share this. None of my friends are into seduction. Community is really important.
 

Will_V

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jesus! the lower hand in the back it should be forbidden by death, one of the worst ever form of escalation.....

Lol, sometimes if the vibe is good I put my fingertips near her tailbone and drag my fingertips together and out a few times, or up and down, while looking off at something else, but yeah the idea of just keeping your hand stuck there is not good.
 
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