FR Finding and pushing my limits: Hope to get advice on Field report writing for beginners

[Merchant's-Kin]

This thread will be a series of 4 interaction in which I believe that I thoroughly worked at my limit and tried to push my limits.
I'm splitting the 4 interactions into 4 posts 1 for each interaction.
In each post that documents an interaction, I will write the comments that I have for myself specific to the interaction documented in that post

For all the interactions here, I recorded them with my phone and I attempted recreate every detail I possibly could for all 4 interactions.

There was actually a 5th interaction that happened after the 4th interaction that I wished to document involving a girl who was so horny that she was agreeing with me on everything I said, constantly shooting me questions about my life, offering to walk with me to my car or down dark side roads (I led to her to walk down the dark side roads which was a mistake should have tried to lead her to my car instead), twisting and twirling her hair, and standing cross-legged and occasionally stumbling due to her own standing position

This 5th interaction lasted 34 minutes and 15 seconds with a lot of long silences with me not knowing what to say and not having sex in the end.
I thought that since I have zero touch, escalation, and sex talk skills. It wouldn't be so useful to document it because I'm really not at that level. Also given that I spent 10 hrs +- to document the 1st 4 interactions, I just wanted to get this field report posted as it would be an incredibly long period of time before I could document the 5th interaction.

 

[Merchant's-Kin]

Thursday
Time: 530-6pm

Outside the ground level of a subway station along the same busy main road where 2 of the other interactions in this field report (interactions 3 and 4 also take place at a different point along this main road)

Interaction 1
Length of interaction: 2 min 20s

Me: Hi hang on
Me: You have lovely pants actually
Her: Sorry?
Me: You have lovely pants. Where do you... Where did you go/come from?
Her: Em... Em... Where did I come from?
Me: Yea..
Her: eheh... As in the country?
Me: Oh nono where did you just come from?
Her: The (subway)
So you come out here? (She chose a wierd exit to leave the station. I point to the secluded exit)
Her: Oh the (name of subway line) line!
Me: Yea I know... right
Me: But u can come out from like here like what's ur goal?
Her: Something along the lines of crossing the bridge overhead (she points to the bridge)
Me: What's so interesting on the other side of the road... like...?
Concurrently: Her: I need to go there hehe...? Me: Is there a cave?
Me: What's going on there?
Her: Uh I'm meeting somebody (giggle)
Me: Ah ok so u meet like uh some interesting people right now during virus or what like uh?
Her: Uh no as in I'm meeting my family members
Me: Well but like now isn't it like a bit hot did u just come from work or what?
Her: Yea
Me: Oh ok.
Awkward silence.
Me: Yeah! Uh...
Me: Well actually if u really need to go u can go but I'm just like uhm keen to I don't know judt like talk
Me: I just want to talk 2 u...
Her: Sorry I'm a little bit in a hurry... My family members are waiting really long
Me: Do you have like uh.. 2 minutes?
Her: Do u need something?
Me: Yeah I just wanna talk
Her: Oh...! (Looks like she receives a messages) Oh sorry my Mum is rushing me right now...
Concurrently: Her: I really need to make a move. Me: Uh do you have like 30 seconds or something?
Her: Do you need something?
Me: Do u have 30 seconds? Can I call u or something?
Her: Call me?
Me: Yeah
Her: Oh is it u want my number (giggles) ? Oh sorry I don't give my number to people I don't know
Me: Try it, just do it, I mean I'm very interested (Gives some quite taken aback expression when I say the last clause)
Her: Uh...! Sorry... I have a boyfriend already... (Doesn't sound fake idk)
Me: (Laugh) Right is there supposed to be a... (Laugh) (I give some "is that supposed to be something I'm worried about expression")
Her: I don't know (giggle)
Me: (Me genuinely giving some tease. With me wagging my fingers) Ah...! Corona Virus! ya don't see it right? Don't see it actually
Her: Mmm...
Me: U don't see ur boyfriend right? I'm... Break the rules... U Break the rules...
Her: Giggles
Me: Laugh out loud
Her: I really gotta run
Me: 30 seconds... just fine... no problem...! They will not... I mean if... if u... if u need to go just go but I mean...
Can I call u later in that case?
Her: (Some pondering) IIIII don't think so... to...
Looks at me then walks away
Me: Bye

Comments:
So this is good because it's actually the first more than 2 minute conversation I had in a while.
Other than that, after documenting the other 3 interactions, I feel that the lessons that I learnt from the other 3 interactions include all those that I learnt here.

 

[Merchant's-Kin]

This is part of the same outing as interaction 1 but I changed venues

Interaction 2
Time: 8-830pm
On one of the banks of the main river flowing through my city. Really quiet at night
Approach invitation from girl walking towards me from front. Puts hair on left side of her face behind her ear
She's really cute after she gets close.

Full length of interaction: 4min 20s
I raise my hand and rotate my palm in its wrist. We're both walking quite slowly

Me: Do you come here regularly?
Her: (Takes out her earphones) Huh?
Me: Do you come here regularly?
Her: No
Me: Okey... So Y r u here?
Her: I have an appointment (She points to the direction behind her which she was walking from)
Me: There? (Point in same direction as her with suspicious look)
Her: Yeah... I'm walking to the (subway)
Me: Oh so you've finished your appointment
Her: Yes
Me: Ok... Do you like the environment here like.. some blue (there was blue light in the background)
Her: Uh... Yea sure it's very... very nice
Me: Alright
Her: Very nice to walk around
Me: Like uh...
Her: Do you come here often? (Some test that I'm not prepared for. Checking the area out for the first time during Corona)
Me: I'm actually trying to figure out what's going on at the (my destination: where the river opens out into some mini-bay surrounded by business district)
Me: (Qualifying myself) Because apparently this thing (riverbank) is connected all the way to (some residential area very far away in the opposite direction)
Her: Uh... Would I say it's connected to (residential area)? I don't think it's connected to (residential area)... Cos this one's only for (the current stretch of the riverbank that we are at)
Me: Alright
Her: Yea so... If u wanna go to (my destination) u have to walk all the way (points in my direction)
Me: Do you like wearing like long sleeve shirts and ... not long pants? (Commenting on her attire)
Her: Uh depends I guess... I wear both...
Me: Uh cos it's like... it's interesting... I like it actually
Her: Oh okay...! Cool! (Laughs under her breath)
Her: Uh I actually have... I'm rushing I have another appointment to get to... So nice talking to u?
She starts walking away
Me: Ok hang on (Said in an authoritative but needy way)
Her: Ok!
She walks back to the position she was originally talking to me at
Me: Just... Uh... Like uh... Isn't there like a...
Her: Like a what... ?
Awkward silence
Me: Nah I just want u to stay here for a while... Speak more actually
Her: Oh!? Okey I... (With the whole knowing tone thing)
Me: Yea, have u got...?
Her: Huh!? (Same condescending tone)
Me: Yea what's ur name?
Her: Uh (Starts with C)
Me: Hi... I'm Y... (I offer my hand) but u can't
Her: Uh... should we shake hands? (Laughing) I didn't bring hand sanitiser
Me: Neither did I!
Her: Yea...
Me: I didn't plan...
Her: You... Wait so u said ur trying to figure out...? (Questioning my attendance at such a location) (Posted a question on the beginner's board regarding whether socialising is a good response to this question)
Me: Yea I'm tryna figure out what's going on at the (my destination) like um... (awkwardness from me) ... Yea... (Clear nervousness from me)
Her: Ok...!
Me: It's it's cos people are like jogging all the way from (residential area where lake flows into the city) to (my current destination) so...
Her: Aaahhhhh! I see... So u can always try jogging... I'm not sure where it takes u but...
Me: I'm not jogging... I'm not... I'm not jogging... but... right now I'm not jogging (clear nerbousness from me again)
Her: Ok...!
Me: Uh... do you have an appointment... at what time?
Her: Uh just now... in the evening around 7 or 8 o'clock
Me: I mean ur second one
Her: Oh! (Feigning) It's actually at around 9-930
Me: Alright, that's interesting
Me: I'm actually interested to know what's going on... like what r u doing? If u have an appointment at like 8 and 9 o'clock during Corona virus... Something's gotta be... Something's gotta be like interesting
Her: Really?! No I just had a haircut and then I have a dinner appointment
Me: Dinner appointment
Her: Yes
Me: Holy shit. This a... 930 dinner appointment during... NOW (Corona Pandemic)?
Her: Yea my family eats dinner very late...
Me: Oh my gosh... Ok! That's interesting
Her: Yea so... Uhm...! NICE TO MEET U?! So...

(I can't remember but I think she starts walking away at this point)
(Somewhere around this part of the conversation before or after she starts walking away again and I stop her again and frame her to come back again)

Me: Jea.. Can I call u at a different point in time?
Her: Uhm...! Regarding (I always run into this question and have no standard response to this that does not give away my power)
Me: Regarding... Ah... (Embarassed tone from me) I just want to see whether u like me and I like u
Her: Oh...! ok I...! 'm actually attached (laughs)
Me: Ok
Her: Yea...
Me: (I cut her off. I think this is a bad thing to do, rude and needy) Have u actually seen the guy recently?
Her: Yea like 2 days ago
Me: oh damn! wow! so that's rule breaking... Ahaha... (Laugh to myself)
Her: No I saw him over zoom (Bullshit)
Me: Oh
Her: That that's the max (First time she stumbles in conversation didn't notice til I listened) I... I don't... I don't like to break my rules (Interesting line here)
Me: I mean it didn't... I don't mind if u break the rules it's just ahah just asking... anyways
Her: My parents are very paranoid so I try to...
Me: (I cut her off again. Man I'm too nervous, holy shit I cut her off from her investment in me.) Can I still have ur number anyways? (Some obsession I have with closing lol)
Her: Uh ssshhh... (not sure if she was trying to say "sure" or whatever else)
Me: (I cut her off again) Can I still call u anyways...? (Wow I'm actually being rude)
Her: U can drop me a text... Please don't call because I do work in the... Ya so u can just pass me ur... (She tries to hand me her phone with the key pad on it)
I'm already holding my phone when I'm talking to her
I'm trying to unlock my phone to pass it to her but girls are just so fast getting their number pads open wow
Me: Ok.
Me: U know what? I'll pass it to u (Me being rude again like wow this anxiety sigh)
Her: Ok sure (I can tell on the spot she's annoyed)
Me: And then what u call me or something i don't know (I gotta learn to be unfazed)
Her: Ok ur number?
I read out me number while she types it in
Her: Ok
Awkward silence.
Me: This is uhm...
My phone vibrates cos she's calling me
Me: Oh! yea! (I face my phone towards her)
Me: Ok yea I'm getting something
Her: Ok. Yes.
Her: (Trying to get away from me at this stage) Ok! Um. Nice to see u?
Me: Hey interesting (No idea what to say at this stage will go study)
Her: Bye
She walks away.

I felt like crap after this interaction and I'm not even working on texting game yet, way too much to think about during the cold approach for me already
Messaging:

Me:
Hi C, great to meet
Y
(Just some crap text from me for the sake of sending a text idk)
No reply

This is and was the most memorable and satisfying conversation that I have had since I started approaching regularly 2 and a half months ago.
This is not because of the quality of the interaction but because I made a clear victory in spite of overwhelming odds.
During this interaction, 2 different very strong fears that I have came back to haunt me:
1. Fear of approach invitations
2. Fear that the girl will realise that my skills with girls are not good, this is generally amde worse when a girl gives me an approach invitation because then it becomes

The effects of these 2 circumstances (that this girl initially liked the look of me AND then became condescending) came into force quite significantly in this interaction.
I'm so proud of myself in how throughout the interaction I was clearly getting my confidence and calm crushed by the condescesion from her but I sucked it up and did everything I could to getting her to come back to carry on the conversation even though she kept threatening to walk away and I was behaving more and more embarassing by the minute
AND it was this willingness to have my ego destroyed and actually really have it minced AND the major decision I made to record my interactions so that I could write field reports that allowed me to achieve victory by staring the above 2 fears that I have in the face, they can once in a while be really overwhelming:
How the emotional battle unfolded:
1. I kept fking it up harder and harder because of more and more tests that I didn't know how to handle
2. Not only did I know that she was being condescending to me because she initially thought I was attractive but then after I started talking to her thought I was a complete loser, I'm pretty damn sure that she knew that I knew this about myself, and of course I'm too afraid to even think about fighting back against her on this front
3. She was probably having such a good time laughing at me for 3-4 minutes long that she let her some of her walls down and started talking about her family and even revealed to me that she illegally went to see her boyfriend 2 days ago
4. Even better, she was playing this whole game and then when I just made my intent as clear as the blue sky, apparently she actually had a boyfriend so this must be a something she's doing because she likes the attention, given that she didn't just walk away when she realised I wasn't as attractive as I thought she was
In spite of ALL OF THE ABOVE AND how royally I fcked this up, she gave me an opening where she started talking about herself, if I was just slightly calmer at that point in the interaction, and just listened a bit more, I could have turned it around. Once I diagnose all the small mistakes I made, deal with my fears, and learn to keep my cool and listen when the opportunity comes, I will grab the opportunity and pound the shit out of it like a king.

If anyone here wants an example of a royal fck up, here u go, I documented EVERY SINGLE stutter I made

Now my body knows that if I just keep pushing, no matter how bad I look, THERE WILL BE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL, I JUST HAVE TO LOOK FOR IT, KEEP CALM AND SIEZE THE OPPORTUNITY WHEN IT COMES. This is one of the greatest lessons I will keep with me throughout the rest of my journey in seduction and perhaps one of the greatest lessons I have learnt in my entire life.

Practical lessons that I have learnt from this interaction
1. Now I know how to get myself to be functioning at the peak of my capacity. This is the peak of my capacity. I have learnt that in order to be really facing my fears, which are the biggest hinderance to me at this stage, I need to be locking myself into conversations with girls of 2 minutes or longer where I'm constantly pushing the interaction forward in spite of the fear. Thus, I have a new focus point which is turning more of my approaches into more than 2 minute conversations. As of now, the rate at which this happens is between 10-20%. Now I think about it this is a problem.
2. In the sixth post of this field report, where I write about the overall lessons I learnt, I will create a list of all the overwhelming starting out fears that I have and be aware of them when I go out in the field in the future and deliberately face them up
3. There are of course legitimate deficiencies that I have in the interaction that I need to be working on, and so I will make a list of these as well in the sixth post of this field report

 

[Merchant's-Kin]

Friday
Things that I told myself to improve on since Thursday:
1. Assume the burden of the conversation and just keep going. This is about focussing on this don't give up mindset
2. Self-amusement: I have to focus more on saying what I want to say rather than what I think will get a reaction
3. Doing the above 2 things while not qualifying myself and and being as certain in my language as possible.

Interaction 3
6pm
Location along the same stretch of road as girl number 1 on Thursday
Length of interaction: 6min 4 seconds
I see this school girl in a bright yellow T-shirt from a distance walking towards me.
By the time I look at her with partial peripheral vision she's starts turning into a small road with residential terrace houses
She walks down this minor road for 2 seconds before I open
At this point I'm about 20metres away and I did not see her looking at me
Me: (Shout loudly) Hi!
She turns her head to look at the sound and we make eye contact and she seems neutral
Me: I make no further sound as I walk towards her. Press my 2 palms into the air to create a gesture that communicates "Slow down and stop there I have something important to tel u"
I expand my eyes wide positively to communicate that this is somehow something she would want to hear
I see her slow down but then she exits my field of vision behind a building
I turn into the alley way to walk up to her
When I first start talking to her I'm about 6 metres away

This girl has the habit of having laughing just one laugh along with her breath, when I say that this girl "laughs" in the documentation that's what I mean

Me: Uh... (1 second pause) Do you live here? (In a really casual and sort of catching my breath tone)
Her: Sorry?
Me: Do you live here?
Her: Yea...
Me: What is like a...? (I notice that this is something I always do)
Me: Are u in like school right now or something?
Her: Yea...?
Me: Oh that's interesting (Another one of my habits)
Me: Is that the (name of renowned high-school in my country) shirt? (With a super-curious and excited tone)
Her: Uh yea it's one of the faculty shirts
Me: It's a faculty shirt? (Perplexed tone of voice)
Me: (Name of school) has faculties?
Her: Something like that yea, it's like a house
Me: Oh I see ok
Her: Ya
Me: What's ur name?
Her: Z (I'm always so afraid to extend my hand for handshakes or whatever sorts of greetings during the pandemic. Of all the approaches so far I have not even done a handshake once)
Me: Hello I'm Y. Just call me Y yea.
Me: Do u stay around here (Nervousness again)
Her: Uh yea nearby
Me: O ok yea that's that's like uhm what is like uhm the arrangement for schools right now?
Her: Um...
Me: Because...
Me: I'm pretty sure there's some kind of... Is it (first year's) going on or like (second year's) still happening I don't know what's
Her: It's like uhm... (silence) (I think she sorta shakes her head)
Me: So (second year's) are still not on the full time?
Her: I think she nods her head but keeps silent (OK so major problem I'm talking too much and not allowing the girls to talking which really can be a turn off)
Me: Are u on a high-stress level right now... for ur studies? (Based on what I know about her school to be highly competitive)
Her: Uh kind of (laughs under her breath) yea...
Me: Like because of ... (which year of high school are u in)?
Her: Uh... I mean it's just (phone's recorder didn't catch what she said at this stage my pants were rubbing against the mike) ... Uh uh sorry why r u asking?
Me: Oh! ... I thought u were interesting ... as in from a distance (qualifying myself again, hopes this gradually gets better NOTE)
Her: Oh (one laugh) ! Oh (another laugh) !
Me: (I say this really fast, qualifying myself once again. NOTE: This is fear from me. I'm uncomfortable of girls recognising my attraction to them) Well it's interesting because I don't see like yellow shirt... and then ... because ... it looks like school pants (it's really actually some long skirt. I really have to stop being afraid of expressingly my ideas as crudely as possible)
Her: Oh...! Yea...!
(Silence. Not as awkward as the prior silences)
Me: (I say her name as if to establish that I've met her and to confirm that's her name) (She said it really softly the first time) Z. ... ?
Her: Yea...
Me: Ok cool! I mean... (For some reason I actually felt significantly comfortable with her)
Me: Yea do you wanna walk like somewhere (with a asking her to come chill with me vibe) ? (This is 1 min and 45s into the conversation I think it's too early. If anyone else is reading to this level of detail (THANKS!!!) would really appreciate if u could share ur thoughts )

(so 2 problems with me over here. NOTE: and it's entirely my fault that these interactions go nowhere but it's good that I'm just going out to practice conversation.)
(I'm wondering about this but for some reason I had a lack of confidence about doing number closing BECAUSE I didn't have a solid idea for a date. So that's what I need now.)

Problems
I don't have a solid date idea.
Not enough social capital?

Back to the conversation

Her: Um no it's ok I have to go home I'm actually kind of late already...
Me: Late!? For what?
Her: For dinner (laughs)... stuff
Me: Now? 6... 6 o'clock?
Her: Yea...
Me: Ok... Have u got like a... time some un some other time this week? (Problem: So I have to stop stumbling when I say this. I believe it will really make a big difference)
Her: Uh...
Me: It's Friday..., so it's... its yeah it's Friday yeah... this or next week
(I actually meant this as a question but I was thinking out loud and it sounded quite assertive so she thought I was commanding her to do it perhaps?)
Her: No. (From tone of voice quite a strong no) ehehe...
Me: Theres a... I mean what is a actualy what do you like... what do u study in... (so a bad transition to a different subject. NOTE: It's good that I'm trying to transition to a different subject to carry on the conversation rather than just crumbling on the spot or backing out immediately as I did in past approaches)
Her: Uh... Bio
Me: Ok... bio,
Her: Yea
Me: and u want to get into...?
Her: Oh I haven't thought about that yet... It's a bit late but yea
It's a bit l...? So like u r ur (second year) right?
Her: No I'm (first year)
Huh!? So then how is that late?
Her: I I don't know I mean most people have like already know what they wanna do
Well u u can't be just doing one subject right? Like ur keen to do bio u mean...?
Her: Yea...
Ok! So it's like not sure yet...? (Not so sure what to say that's fine I'll improve over time) (I should have just related this to my own problems deciding with what kind of industry I'm keen to get into)
Her: Yea not sure yet yea...
Alright yea well it sounds cool (Now I think about it she's giving me openings but in the moment I don't have enough cool to just show more about what I think)
(The problem is once again that I'm trying to impress her sigh. It's my fear of the interaction not going well and me not getting results. NOTE)
Her: What's the reason of...? What's the thing about bio that does it for u?
Her: (Softly and shyly) Uuuhhhh... um esss... I-I don't know I guess... (Pants rubs against recorder's mike again so can't hear) Yea...
Her: Like... cos u get to learn about what's around u
Me: Like that? (I spread my hands in a semi-circle) (As if to say "doesn't seem like a very sufficient explanation")
Her: And it's like related to like how human's work... so I guess that's like... (voice trails off)
Me: Was there any experience that made u wanna like... (I slow down talking speed)
Her: (She tries to say something before I finish my sentence. Maybe she's trying to get away from me. But I never here anything about this for the rest of the conversation)
Me: ...like things around u? (This can really be said in a more interesting way)
Her: Not really... (ehehe) (I think she's trying to get away and is bullshitting hmm)
Me: Not really!? (I have this habit of repeating what other people say man it's a turn-off one more thing to work on. I think I do this when I'm nervous that idk what to say next. NOTE)
Her: No (laughs a bit under her breaht).

So at this part I'm just being myself to a greater extent (not without the nervousness) and I unintentionally start challenging her

Me: Huh!? (As though in disbelief)
Me: It's like a... (Wow my habits when I'm nervous sigh. I'll come up with a list) Ok...? Doe Doe Does it in any way connect to how ur in (name of her school)? Cos I know it's like super I dunno I mean honestly speaking uh alota people in (name of her school) like I don't really... I don't really like them a lot of people because like it just I just happened to not like them
Her: Oh why...! (I don't see her facial expressions because I'm too nervous and we're wearing masks)
Yea because uhm... I mean there are all like there's this crang... really cranky guy... there's like there was there's this really cranky guy I know and there's also like eh... type A guy
Her: Were u from (Name of her school)?
Me: No I was not from (name of her school) I'm a... I was from (name of my decent but notorious for naughty guys school (not me obviously... yet ))
Her: Oh...
Me: I was from (name of my decent but notorious for naughty guys school) yea
Me: And right now I speak to like this (name of her school) guy as well
Her: Oh I see ok...
Me: So that's why...
Some slightly awkward silence
Me: Yea (stutter abit) but I-I'm sure u disagree with it... or like some kind of
Said concurrently: Her: I mean I just... Me: Can u comment on that?
Her: Any any school would have like... just any place in general would have both good and bad... (her voice trails off...)
Me: Ah yea but it's because na u know I get the feeling that (name of her school) is more cut-throat or something? Is it?
Her: Uh...! I think depends...! It really depends on who ur with, yea...
Me: Have u felt that?
Her: No not really like with the people I spend time with not really
Me: Ok (Nod in acknowledgement)
Her: Yea
Me: That sounds like just... CHILL... like so CHILL (It comes off as a compliment cos I personally really respect that)
Her: Uuuuhhh... (Now I listen to the recording she sounded a bit nervous when she said this) I gue I mean I'm not su... like very... it's very wei... probly like sometimes sometimes it's ok and sometimes it's not ok
Me: Sometimes it's ok? (Give the perplexed facial expression of me trying hard to understand what she's saying because I genuinely am)
(Wow the recorder is officially my new best friend)
Me: Do what do u what do u mean by sometimes... is... U talking about the people or u talking about the environment?
Her: Like in general... It's just like
Me: In general?
Her: I feel like it's alright like u can cope with it but then other days it's just like I guess it's normal... mmmmm... like it happens everywhere
Me: I don't know... It's so good that ur happy
Her: Uh ehehe
Me: It's so good... I mean... seriously (that's seriously what I felt)
Her: Yea
Me: Sometimes I might have found that I wasn't so happy I don't know... In like a... studying for... I did (some other pre-college program) by the way (different from her program)... I didn't do (name of her program)
Her: Oh
Me: Yea... (I mutter something) ... Uh... (There's silence now)
Me: Do you wanna get food? (There's obviously no place we can eat but that's what I said) (I can't even remember that I tried to close a second time)
Her: No it's ok...
Me: Yea (agreeing that it cannot be now) some other w some other time not-not now
Her: Umm (laughs again) no it's ok I think now-now's not really the time for... (Is this her qualifying?)
Me: Just get like drinks and then... and then... just walk around somewhere somewhere I think maybe (name of park nearby) they scan (ID) right now... but I'm pretty sure that there's some place where we can go
Her: Nah it's it's ok (laugh under breath)
Me: UHM! Well I mean yea fair enough!
Her: I'm so sorry I really need to go home now,
Me: Ok (Yea this has the sound of disappointment in it)
Her: It's ok (I think she can sense disappointment, perhaps something to work on. Is there anything else that this can mean?), it was nice talking to u
Me: (Squeal like how I sometimes do to my friends to mean "Completely no worries") This is fine
Her: (Laughs one time)
Me: Bye.
Her: (Giggle like a little girl) (Laugh) Bye bye Thank you (In a sweet way)

Lessons learnt
1. The girls I approach are usually holding something, it's hard to get even any sort of touch in, handshakes for example
2. I'm really not doing too well on the certainty in language and not qualifying myself front. This is because of my fears:
They come back to bite me in differing degrees, sometimes they don't. The solution to this will be in the 6th post of this field report.
3. Don't show vulnerability

 

[Merchant's-Kin]

Interaction 4
Along same stretch of road about half an hour later so like 630pm
Girl in elegant blue dress with black packpack and black hand carry bag
She's walking towards me on a very narrow foot path this foot path is on the pavement of a really busy junction which is why we sometimes can't hear each other very well
I stop her from the front I can't remember exactly how but once she slowed to a stop she was almost right next to me
Things about girl:
she has an accent that sounds quite different from the typical accent of the people in this country. My accent is slightly different as well.

Length of entire interaction: 8 min 32seconds

Me: Hi! (2-3 second pause) You look like ur going to work!
Her: Yeah... I'm...
Me: (Cutting her off again) You're going to work now?! (Not very loud but me conveying surprise)
Her: No, going back from work
Me: GOING BACK TO WORK? (A car whizzed by masking her voice so until very much later where I corrected myself I thought she said "going back from work")
(It's interesting that she does not correct me here because based on what happened later she actually did hear me because she told a lie based on it)
Me: Wha-What doyou work as?
Her: Uh... I work in a clinic
Me: Ah I see... it's like a... What is... Is there like a... some specialty in the clinic or... (Cold reading because this is a very residential area of private (non-public) housing so I correctly guessed that she wasn't the mainstream general practitioner)
Her: Uh... Yeah...
(This really slow and loud motorbike passes by so the recorder doesn't catch what I say and neither does she)
Her: Sorry? (She can't hear me)
Me: What is it?
Her: Uh... It's a... I'm a psychologist
Me: Oh...! (I think I open my eyes wide)
Her: Yeah...
Me: Ok...! And it has to run 24/7? (Since I thought she was going back to work) Has it got to...?
The environment is really quite loud
Her: Sorry?
Me: Has it got to run 24/7... that's why u have to...
Said concurrently: Her: Oh no no I just work at strange hours Me: (Carrying on from previous sentence) ... go NOW? (Based on my wrong assumption that she's going to work now)
(Wierd: She said she works at strange hours which is a lie at least for today because ending work at 6pm is normal)
Me: Why?... Like why'd u choose to do that... like that's interesting (Wow this habit of mine is cheesy I don't even feel comfortable hearing it from myself)
I ran out of stuff to say for a bit
Her: Yeah...
Awkward 2 second silence
Her: Yeah... See...! (She was about to say "See u!")
Me: Oh wait u have...! Have u got like 30 seconds... orlike... 2 minutes (LOL nervousness)
Her: Sorry? (Shit test: Can't hear me)
Me: Have u got 2 minutes...?! (I raise my voice though she can hear me just fine) You can't hear me properly... Do I have to SPEAK LOUDER (I raise my voice even more) OR... SOMETHING?
Her: YEAH (She raises her voice as well. Hmm is she mirroring me?) I can't clearly hear u... Because of the sound of the... (she doesn't say anything but points to the road)
Me: Yeah yeah
Me: Well I understand... OKAY um like have u got 2 minutes (The sound died down for a bit) or something?
Her: SURE!
Me: Yeah... I mean... (Awkward 1.5 second pause don't know what to say)
Me: So... (I squirm (Forehead smack)) Liiiikke u-u sound interesting... because I-I don't know... (Holy crap I need to get better at this)
Awkward 4 seconds silence
Her: Yeah. So ur question was...? (I really need to come up with some good response to this)
Me: No u look really interesting (This is so fcking epic embarassing)
Her: (Immediately says) OKAY (As though "You've said that a shit ton of times. I UNDERSTAND")
Me: I don't know yea because like it's just... (Stuttering)
(Awkward silence for 1 second) (I think I at this stage manage to collect myself a bit)
Noise dies down very significantly.
Me: (The amplitude of my voice suddenly becomes much lower but the tone becomes more eloquent and it sounds more like something I would genuinely say) Somehow u dress so uniquely or something...
Her: Okay... (Acknowledgement in her voice)
Me: Yeah.
Me: AH maybe-Maybe it fits the psychologist thing I'm not sure
Her: Maybe... Yeah...
Me: Do u think so?
Her: I don't- I don't know
Me: Hah...! (In acknowledgement)
(1 second pause)
Me: I mean... has anybody ever comment... commented on like... (My voice trails off recorder doesn't catch anything) interesting (holy fck I am going to remove this word from my vocabulary)
Her: Yyyeeeaaaaahhh I ggguuuueeeeessss? (Meaning not really)
Said concurrently: Me: ... (Some kind of carry from what I previously said) Interesting fashion? Her: Yeah
Her: I... Yeah... I guess...?
Me: Like Do you LIKE wearing this... Maybe?
Her: Yeah I mean I just do me so...
Me: What is a...? (This is how I think out loud about what to say next)
Her: I just wear what I like... and... yeah... and uh... it's not meant tooooooo... (she's thinking) uuuuuuuhhh... invoke a certain response...? I suppose?
Me: OK! (In agreement, and because I really respect the response and genuinely like people who wear what they like)
Her: Yeah (laughs for the first time) (and smiles behind her mask)
Me: So it's like u live for yourself
Her: yeeeaahhh
Me: Doing it for yourself
Her: Yeah
Me: What's ur values? (This is too direct) like what do u (1 second pause) what do u go for... do u go for something or...?
Her: Uuuuhhhmmm...! MY values is just life is short just do what we (recorder doesn't catch the last 2 words)
Me: (Genuinely what I feel) Oh wow...! Life is short...
Her: Yeah
Me: I just really like that actually
Her: Yeah
Me: Yeah
(1 second silence)
Me: I sorta-like try to fit it in also... but I have some issues doing that actually just...
Her: So what are u doing?! Or r u on here...? (Let's her voice trail off)? (as in why the hell am I approaching her on this street where she works) (That same dreaded test luckily I have an answer prepared)
Me: I'm tryna find ICE-CREAM
Her: Oh...!
Me: Yeah
Her: Okay
Me: A certain brand of ice-cream
Her: What like brand is it? (she's suddenly quite excited to be talking to me, her amplitude and tone of voice changes a lot)
Me: (name of the brand)... uh...
Her: (name of the brand) ice cream okay... (She's curious. She's never heard of ice cream from this brand, this brand is more famous for selling other drinks)
Me: (name of the brand) ice cream - (name of the brand)-affiliated brand called like a (Starts with P) in the...
Her: Oh (Starts with letter P) ice cream! Yeah... They have it at the (name of supermarket)
Me: Yeah but the thing... U see... The thing is like... I think somehow the manufacturing got got uhm affected so there is like uhm Coconut ice cream that I'm trying da look for
Her: Oh... I think I know which one u mean
Me: It's that block one with the stick right?
Her: yeah yeah yeah
Me: Yeah... It's wonderful
Her: Yeah...! The (supermarket) near my place has ...(trails off) Maybe it's just like uh... they haven't restocked it... or it's been sold out
Me: OK
Her: Yeah
Me: But see Yeah I mean because it's generally running out everywhere...
Said concurrently: Her: Oh really! Me: I bought it once already...!
Her: Okay
Me: I bought it once but then we finished it
Her: Ah...!
Me: Yeah Haha so
Her: Hmm
Me: YES.
Her: Okay

She's already veered off from the centre of the footpath where we started talking to even more to the edge of the foot path than I am
Somewhere about here I realise that her body is fully turned towards mine while my body was not fully turned towards hers (so I'm not actually having completely needy body language)
So I rotate to fully face my chest and feet to face towards hers

Me: What u like coconut ice cream or something or...?
Her: My mum does... so she loves that stuff... Yeah (laughs)
Me: Oh ok!
Her: Yeah...
Me: What do u live near there? (I point in the direction where she came from) (At this point I still think that she's going TO work rather than going back FROM work)
Is that what ur talking about... like the (supermarket) near ur place?
There's nope well no my pl... I say a bit of a distance from here but there is a (supermarket) up there (referrring to the direction where she was walking from) so u might wanna try that
What is...? What is the interesting thing that brings u here right now actually? in that case?
(recorder doesn't catch what she says but she essentially tells me she just finished work)
Oh so ur going...? I thought u said u were GOING BACK FOR WORK?
No no I'm going back from work
Ohh so it's not like it's actually l- I got that wrong then? Why didn't u correct-correct me or something?
I-I didnt-I didn't hear it
Me: Ahaha I see
Said concurrently: Her: Ok well I think we have to s- (She was about to say "split") Me: That makes sense
Me: What's ur name?
Her: Ah (Starts with S)
Me: Hi I'm (recorder doesn't catch this word). I'm Y, Y
Her: Y? (Car goes by so having trouble hearing my nam)
Me: Y! Yes!
Her: OK. (Reads out the spelling of my name)
Me: Yea. (I read out the spelling of my name again)
Her: Okay. Well nice to meet u Y.
Me: Uhm! (Convey that I'm thinking) (2 second pause) Have u got time this week?

3 minutes 53 seconds into conversation

Her: Uh... For?
Me: I don't know... Coffee (My fault again as with earlier school girl approach)
Her: But there's... like nowhere's open here yea
Me: That's fair enough! Like I mean meet somehow... in some sense
Her: Uh...! Yea! If u have social media u can add me...
2 seconds silence
Me: Uh...! That um actually hard to
Me: Ah-t I-I don't like doing that actually (stutter) it's... Have u got a phone number?
Her: Yea...! But I don't really Yea I don't really give my number out so...
Said concurrently: Me: Wow ok! Her: ... sorry
Some loud motorbike whizzes by again making the 2 second silence not so awkward
Her: Um... Yeap... Sure I'll run into u later... Sometime again...
Me: That's fair enough I mean... (I do this thing where I squeal with my voice trailing off again. It's a habit that I should stop)
1.5 seconds silence
Me: Huh!
Her: See u!
Me: Why don't u take my number actually. U take my number then call me.
Her: Sure. Yeah. Sure. (This girl is good at blatantly lying)
Me: ... if u want
Her: if u... yeap
Her: So what r u doing... like... how ... like ...
Me: I am studying
Her: Ok what r u studying...
Me: (laugh) I'm studying (the concentration I'm in) Yea...
Her: Oh (the concentration I'm in) ! Oh interesting!
Me: Yea (the concentration I'm in) Yea...
Her: Ok so u can give me ur number I'll write it out for...
I read out my number
Her: Ok! cool.
Me: Yes.
Her: Ok... And so... Are u... did u just start or are u finishing? (I think she's assessing my age) (Is there some boost in attraction here because I persisted?)
Me: I actually just started and the problem was there's this whole virus thing going on...
Her: Yeah...
Me: Then...
Her: So is it online now then?
Me: It's like sort of online but now is my summer... So I'm planning to take some summer classes and then...
Her: Where is ur program? Is it in this country?
I say not in this country. She asks whether I was away from this country and had to come here because of the virus I say yes

5 minutes 35 seconds into conversation
Conversation carrries on again because I change the subject not sure whether this is the right thing to do at this stage. Would appreciate some advice on this. My feeling is that I don't want it to look as though she takes my number and that's all I care about

Me: So... did u study in this country?
Her: Yeah yeah I did
Me: Oh right U don't sound like u studied here actually
Her: Hmm... yea but I did
Me: What is the story behind that?
Her: It's a long story but... (As though she doesn't really want to say)
Me: Well I guess...
Said concurrently: Her: TLDR? Me: (This is genuinely the way I am when I'm interested in people) Just give me the things that u think are THE MOST (My amplitude increases sharply as I progress through this sentence)
Me: The most... like... critical things then
Her: Um...! (1 second pause)
Her: Yeah just that I studied in this country so... (Perhaps she's push-pulling me)
Me: (In any case now I have some genuine interest in this story of hers) U have... No. I mean... Yes, I know but as in... I'm talking about like the
1 second pause
Me: Like what's the story behind like why u don't sound like u studied in this country?
Her: Oh! Um... Iiii guess growing up I have quite a mixed bunch of friends so... Probably that...?
Me: ooo
Her: Yeah
Me: U like having a mixed bunch of friends?
Her: Uh! Yea I mean it's interesting... but like... I just like to meet different... (1 second) ... people ... (1 second) ... I suppose ... (1 second) ... yeap
Recorder doesn't catch what I say
The road has become quite quiet so we both start speaking softly again
Me: (Laugh slightly) Good friends are... Is that a...? (3 seconds pause) Is that a thing for u? Would u? Would u consider friends like a big thing? big part of ur life...
Her: Yea of course! What else is... like life about it's about relationships isn't it? (I'm not gonna think about bringing sex in at my current level)
Me: Some people don't think about it though...
Her: True... But for me it is the... Yea that's what life is about... like meaningful, authentic, relationships (This is a huge opening I don't capitalise that's fine I'm just focussing on keeping my cool for now)
2 seconds silence
Me: I see. And would u like... go for it? Hehe (I laugh because I'm uncomfortable leading her in through the verbal dialogue. I've really never lead a girl on a mental adventure before. Lots of skills for me to pick up)
Her: Eeehhhmmm... It's not... I guess it's not something that u... like it's nice to have and want if the right people come along... I think it's worth prioritizing and making time for the people who ... matter...? (It's funny because I was not even confident enough to explain what I meant by "Go for it" but she immediately knew what I was talking about)
Her: Yea but... I don't know. I don't know what u mean by go for it. It's a very (She said one word here but motorbike whizzes past again. Word starts with either d or g sounds like general)
Me: Well I mean for me like I'm going... like I'm always looking for like people like me and stuff like that u know (So my nervousness is still there, sitting from my house writing this I'm thinking so many way better things to say, I'm sure anyone reading this can too)
Me: Or people I like u know who I would really like... because u know... have u got this um... experience where u generally meet a lot of people and then finally u'll meet one person ... (So bad pessimistic choice here because I'm complaining to her about how boring of a place the world is I should have talked to her about a positive experience that I had where I really grew from meeting someone specia)
Said concurrently: Her: Yeah! Me: ... that is like wow ("Yeah that happens to me" from her) like so cool
Her: Yea I mean it's a numbers game right? Like friendships and relationships in general but more... like not everyone's gonna be a fit?
Her: Um... But yeah the more ur exposed to something the more that we are to find someone that u hit it off with
Me: Okay. Yeah. I don't know I have a bit of running into problems with this sorts of thing thing "Oh suddenly I decide I don't like this person" I don't know (Wrong frame good experience for me)
Her: Hmm...
Me: (Recorder doesn't really catch what I'm saying. My voice trails off anyways)
Her: Well I gotta bounce...
Me: Alright
Her: I'll drop u a t-text (The stuttering here is a lie haha)
Me: Ok
Her: See u Y
Me: Bye S
Her: Yep bye
Said concurrently: Her: Good luck on ur ice-... Me: Do people call u (short form of the full one-word of her name)?
Her: Yeah yeah (trying to get away from me) sure
Her: Good luck on your ice-cream hunt
Me: Ah... I don't know I'm just gonna see whether it's there
Her: Yeap
Me: And then I'm gonna walk back to my car...
Her: Ok seeya
Me: Bye

Lessons learnt
I should have closed a second time nearing the 7 minute mark, not just oh... let her keep my number and wait for her to text me which will never happen. Always be taking the lead. Don't fear to take the lead.
There are so many things to take note of: Lack of conversational ability, lack of date ideas, lack of knowledge of how to handle touch, dealing with fears etc. I gotta focus on a couple of things at a time.
I'm not sure whether there's any autopilot starting to kick in but I think the focus should be on locking myself into conversations of 2 minutes or longer so that I can learn at the peak of my capacity.

 

[Merchant's-Kin]

Ok so overall comments

List of the kinds of stuttering that I do that I might want to avoid:
1. "It's like a..."
2. Squealing
3. Squirming
4. Just...
5. The word "interesting"
6. Repeating what the girl says
Etc... There are a heck ton no point treating them individually

The root causes of these things:
1. I genuinely don't know what to say so I stutter. This has already got to do with conversation skills. SO THAT'S GREAT!!! I think I'm at the stage where I can start thinking about conversation
2. My fears. Solution: Just make sure I'm having as many 2 minutes or longer conversations as possible, and hopefully? the fears will come back to bite me less and less?
3. I'm getting stumped by tests that really make me lose my cool in addition to my fears. So ok it's great that I'm starting to diagnose all these common tests individually!
4. A lot of skills that I don't have, touch..., conversation..., this ties back into my anxiety of having bad skills with girls


List of the fears I have that are hindering me:
1. Fear of approach invitations from some experiences since high school: I'm afraid that the girl herself who initially likes me will judge me for having bad skills which they did and then a lot of people in my year knew about it.
So the problem is that girls will judge me. That's fair enough. It's true that they will. It's a fact that I'm not gonna be able to hide it.
Solution: I'm going to keep thinking that this is just a girl that wants to be understood and it doesn't help if I keep thinking about my fear because she's gonna see it in me anyways and I know that she sees it in me and don't care that she sees it in me. It is just about me and her and I am going to do my best to listen and lead the interaction forward.
2. Fear of being judged by people who are not part of the interaction (i.e. other than the people who the girl is with in the even the girl I'm approaching is not alone) based on how other people in my year in high school judged me because one of the girls who initially liked me threw me under the bus.
So the problem is that I'm anxious about these people thinking badly of me. I genuinely am. Because I have a problem with my confidence. I actually to a great extent in my normal life let my value be defined by other people's perception of me. So this is an issue with fundamentals
Solution: Just work on being 100% comfortable that the way I'm living my life is the best way that I can possibly be living my life. It's not changeable that these people are thinking badly of me, they definitely will. It's got nothing to do with how high-level or low-level someone else or other people are. Even if the best people here think badly of me, my way of carrying out my life is the best way that it can be. Approaching a girl on the street in front of 20 other peoplem is the best way of carrying out my life because it is the best way for me to grow as a person.
3. Fear of getting reported for breaching social distancing measures through doing daygame (This is the only issue whose effects have a real impact). Just avoid cops, police cars, security guards, officials. And stick to the streets.
4. Fear that the circumstances in which I saw the girl or the girl saw me are not conducive to me approaching her with intent. This is simply bullshit. As long as there is intent. Any approach can work. There is always a not OR least needy way of approaching a girl regardless of the circumstances. This is just the excuses that I sometimes
E.g.
1. She's standing in a really dark place at night she's not going to be so comfortable with me walking up to her...
2. A girl was walking behind me for about 5 minutes and already saw me do at least 1 other approach. Up to this point I've always decided not to approach her since I'm afraid she'll complain to the police or something but now I think about it it's absolute bullshit. She might even be more likely to complain to the cops if I don't approach her.


List of the tests that regularly stump me:
1. Something of the form of "Why do u want to talk to me"
1.1. This actually generally only happens when I ask whether a girl has time.
Solution: Don't ask whether a girl has time. Command or make her stay there somehow without asking whether she can stay there.
1.2. She may just ask why I am talking to her anyways:
Possible response: Having a conversation. Don't be so unsocial.
If she then calls me out on this, then I will call her out on her liking that I'm doing this because most of the girls that I do this to actually like it
2. What are u doing here:
I feel that I've dealt with this to a sufficient extent already. I will keep trying and see how successfully where I am already at with this
3. When she starts to walk away and it triggers neediness
This is a pain, I really don't know how to deal with this (Posted a question on the beginners board regarding this)

Most major takeaways from this field report:
1. The importance of increasing my rate of converting approaches into conversations that are 2 minutes or longer
2. It is time for me to start deliberately working on conversation as a skill rather just the opener. IF anyone disagrees I would really appreciate if you'd let me know

 

[Dr.X]

Thank you for the conversation examples. I'm learning too.

 

[Merchant's-Kin]

Hi everyone thanks for following!

I'm not following Rob's 80/20 rule for this field report because in that post it says that beginner's should be detailing every little thing. But I'm finding that really unsustainable if I'm going to even be writing 1 field report like this every 2 weeks.

I'm thinking that I won't go into this much detail when I write another field report.

Would appreciate advice on the readability and also process it takes to write a field report that is as extensive as this. Or maybe even more extensive?

Does it make sense to be spending 10+- hours to be writing a field report like this? I would think that it does make sense because I did learn a lot from just writing this field report but I would like to maximise learning efficiency nevertheless.
For this field report, it is just the first time that I'm writing a serious one, but in general from the audio file to text, the documentation of the interaction details themselves took about 1 hour per 2 minutes of interaction on average. This is excluding the reflections I wrote here.

Is this just way too inefficient?

If anyone has any criticisms of my interactions or my reflections on the interactions, I would really appreciate the ideas from anyone! The worst would be for me to be working and analysing this on my own only

Happy to try to give more details if necessary!

Y

 

[Mr STIF]

Thursday
Time: 530-6pm

Outside the ground level of a subway station along the same busy main road where 2 of the other interactions in this field report (interactions 3 and 4 also take place at a different point along this main road)

Interaction 1
Length of interaction: 2 min 20s


Comments:
So this is good because it's actually the first more than 2 minute conversation I had in a while.
Other than that, after documenting the other 3 interactions, I feel that the lessons that I learnt from the other 3 interactions include all those that I learnt here.

You started doing that newbie mistake of asking too many questions during the first 60seconds of being in a set.

Literally, questions are how we find out about the person in front of us. But you have to put yourself in the person's shoes to see how it will feel.

Now, imagine being the girl and a stranger just keeps asking lots of questions, upon the first meeting. How would you react? I'm betting you wouldn't want to divulge any personal secrets to a stranger.

I learnt to use the push-pull technique of ask two questions and give one statement.
Example.

Me: Hey dear, how's it going?
Her: I'm fine
Me: What's happening around here?
Her: nothing much
Me: At least, it's better than being at home. Netflix can be boring sometimes and all we just need is pure human interactions just like this one we're in right now.
Her: Yeah..So have you seen the latest avengers movie?

There are different variables of using this technique. It must not be two questions then a statement. It can start with a statement then followed by two questions or question then statement then question again.

Just remember this technique anytime you start a conversation with a woman. I catch myself always doing it anytime I start a conversation with a woman.

Spiritually, that's just two souls trying to find balance and it comes out of a place of trying to connect but as soon as you use this push-pull technique it helps you not falter.

Questions get you info while statements say something about your soul(leaves an impression, spread ideas). So when you walk up show vulnerability by making statements as well as asking questions, it will help the other person loosen up to you and share their deepest secrets.

 

[Merchant's-Kin]

You started doing that newbie mistake of asking too many questions during the first 60seconds of being in a set.

Literally, questions are how we find out about the person in front of us. But you have to put yourself in the person's shoes to see how it will feel.

Now, imagine being the girl and a stranger just keeps asking lots of questions, upon the first meeting. How would you react? I'm betting you wouldn't want to divulge any personal secrets to a stranger.

I learnt to use the push-pull technique of ask two questions and give one statement.
Example.

Me: Hey dear, how's it going?
Her: I'm fine
Me: What's happening around here?
Her: nothing much
Me: At least, it's better than being at home. Netflix can be boring sometimes and all we just need is pure human interactions just like this one we're in right now.
Her: Yeah..So have you seen the latest avengers movie?

There are different variables of using this technique. It must not be two questions then a statement. It can start with a statement then followed by two questions or question then statement then question again.

Just remember this technique anytime you start a conversation with a woman. I catch myself always doing it anytime I start a conversation with a woman.

Spiritually, that's just two souls trying to find balance and it comes out of a place of trying to connect but as soon as you use this push-pull technique it helps you not falter.

Questions get you info while statements say something about your soul(leaves an impression, spread ideas). So when you walk up show vulnerability by making statements as well as asking questions, it will help the other person loosen up to you and share their deepest secrets.

I see I see. Yeah. I find that I'm try-harding the whole thing and I'm not even saying what I genuinely would say if I was to be in my normal calm state of mind when I'm on my own.

I'm still filled with anxiety when talking to girls. I'm trying to figure out why it isn't going away yet. It's slowly getting better. I'm quite glad that I'm pushing myself to have longer conversations but still during my longer interactions with girls. I'm not being myself at all.

I will get better at this.

Thanks for following bro @Mr STIF !

 

[Mr STIF]

Just keep on doing what you're doing, brother.Good experiences weave into solid skills and habits. But you have to pay the price of weaving it.

Just try this formula that works for getting me numbers.

My-get-the-woman-process

1) I see woman: in my mind once I see a woman the mating dance has begun. I notice her subconscious IOI's that she isn't even aware of.

2) I open woman: I just start a conversation with her. I don't care what I say that's what makes it a game but most times I try to tease them. It's like the bait and the fish sometimes definitely gets caught. It depends on your proficiency. This is where you have to remember the push-pull technique that will help you not falter upon the balance of connection that you're trying to create between you and the woman.

3) I sex talk woman: once we are in convo I just basically drag the conversation to sextalk or cocky and funny moments where I can be playfully doing some rsd shit, like carrying her or making her chase me around.

4) I exchange phone numbers: after all these moments shared I finally decide to go for it. This game is a martial arts of being that cool guy everybody wanna be around. You know those sequences in your head that you can use to navigate the social arena.

I'm presently working on number close again this year. Though I don't have much time and I'm still rusty but I hit the streets on Sunday's and I get six numbers plus lots of conversations with people men and women alike. Just put yourself out there more.

This get the woman process is so important and you can amplify it and make it better every year if you'll work on it. It reminds you to play the real game despite being scared.

Once you've started to get long conversations you'll see that they just want to meet up again. It's just natural, this process makes you smooth.

Do you know that I do it on auto these days? We go from strangers to I think I like this one(the hook). When you start convo and sexualize it why won't you get to the hook? Especially if your fundamentals are good: fashion, facial expressions, mannerisms, wit, sarcasm, charisma, nice vocal tonality, strong masculine posture, good lifestyle e.t.c

Now, you'll be this mysterious sexy stranger she's intrigued about because he says little about himself and let's her talk about herself more.
.
Make the conversation 80/20. She talks 80%, you listen 20%. You make her comply to you 80%, you comply to her 20%.

That's enough for now

 

[Merchant's-Kin]

Just keep on doing what you're doing, brother.Good experiences weave into solid skills and habits. But you have to pay the price of weaving it.

Just try this formula that works for getting me numbers.

My-get-the-woman-process

1) I see woman: in my mind once I see a woman the mating dance has begun. I notice her subconscious IOI's that she isn't even aware of.

2) I open woman: I just start a conversation with her. I don't care what I say that's what makes it a game but most times I try to tease them. It's like the bait and the fish sometimes definitely gets caught. It depends on your proficiency. This is where you have to remember the push-pull technique that will help you not falter upon the balance of connection that you're trying to create between you and the woman.

3) I sex talk woman: once we are in convo I just basically drag the conversation to sextalk or cocky and funny moments where I can be playfully doing some rsd shit, like carrying her or making her chase me around.

4) I exchange phone numbers: after all these moments shared I finally decide to go for it. This game is a martial arts of being that cool guy everybody wanna be around. You know those sequences in your head that you can use to navigate the social arena.

I'm presently working on number close again this year. Though I don't have much time and I'm still rusty but I hit the streets on Sunday's and I get six numbers plus lots of conversations with people men and women alike. Just put yourself out there more.

This get the woman process is so important and you can amplify it and make it better every year if you'll work on it. It reminds you to play the real game despite being scared.

Once you've started to get long conversations you'll see that they just want to meet up again. It's just natural, this process makes you smooth.

Do you know that I do it on auto these days? We go from strangers to I think I like this one(the hook). When you start convo and sexualize it why won't you get to the hook? Especially if your fundamentals are good: fashion, facial expressions, mannerisms, wit, sarcasm, charisma, nice vocal tonality, strong masculine posture, good lifestyle e.t.c

Now, you'll be this mysterious sexy stranger she's intrigued about because he says little about himself and let's her talk about herself more.
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Make the conversation 80/20. She talks 80%, you listen 20%. You make her comply to you 80%, you comply to her 20%.

That's enough for now

Okey bro thanks, I'm slowly getting my pre-openers down and adapting to new Corona opening-up. After pre-openers, I will go to push-pull. After push-pull, I will look at some conversational skills. After conversational skills, I will look at sexual intent.

Now I can understand ur advice slightly better

 

[Mr STIF]

Okey bro thanks, I'm slowly getting my pre-openers down and adapting to new Corona opening-up. After pre-openers, I will go to push-pull. After push-pull, I will look at some conversational skills. After conversational skills, I will look at sexual intent.

Now I can understand ur advice slightly better

You're doing a nice job and with much experience you'll experience mindset shifts from time to time.

 

[Merchant's-Kin]

Thanks so much for being around @Mr STIF