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Finding difficult to combine my masculine side with my engaging side.

Ronnie

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Some time ago, I read an article in which Chase divided attraction into two elements: fascination and excitement.

He defined fascination as that basic attraction determined by who you are and not by your game. Working on things like body language, posture, physique, grooming, personality etc. can increase the percentage of woman who will feel that for you.

Then he defined excitement as the arousal that you can generate through gaming the girl. He also mentioned that - while it's possible to pull and sleep with a girl mostly based on excitement, this is very difficult and these relations don't tend to be the best one.

Let's start by saying that my engaging side is the most natural one. Certainly learning the principles of game helped me express it in a more intentful and sexual way but it's the thing that comes most spontaneously to me. Especially when I night game, I can have sets based almost fully on engaging, where I even reach a certain degree of physical contact. Had such a set just yesterday night. However, as Chase rightly pointed out, the attraction tend to vanish once the excitement vanishes. This are not the type of set most gamers want to achieve: the one where the guy is pulling back and the girl is making the effort to purse him.

My "fascinating side" is the one I have began working on some time ago (with interruptions). Maxxing my looks, working out, becoming aware of my body language / facial expressions, dressing wealthily / fashonably, taking my time, improving my posture. Now, I have to say, when I put effort into these things, I can see how the percentage of girls checking me out increases significantly. The fact that I am tall compared to many guys I see around also helps a bit too.

However, it almost feels like activating a completely different type of person at the cost of losing that naturally engaging side of me. And when I try to interact from that position, I kinda lose that energetic vibe that typically helps me so much in opening and hooking a girl.

Something tells me that the day I manage to combine these two traits in one unique "value proposition", my results will improve dramatically. So I was wondering if any of you guys ever faced these issues and - if yes - how you overcame them.
 
a good date brings a smile to your lips... and hers

Ronnie

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well, to pick one important area, your 'dressing' while stylish and more expensive also has to be fully congruent to the energy you are putting out and who you are. I'm a successful WallSt dude and that's how I look except better than 99% when it comes to dressing well. So they love that about me.
I am a digital entrepreneur and I am developing this free, wealthy global businessman style. Kinda like Richard Brandson, so elegant but more colorful than, say, a financial guy.
 

rockstar

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What you're talking about reminds me of a distinction I make between "high energy" and "low energy" game/interactions. Low-energy is nearly essential for seduction and creating tension. Due to the law of least effort it's generally going to come off as higher power. High-energy is better in groups and party/club environments when you need to be more engaging to get people's attention.

Different levels work better in different situations. Generally you want to gradually lower your energy after the girl hooks in a 1-1 approach. In a group/nightgame setting you want to lower your energy a lot when you isolate or pull. I don't see much of a point being high energy on a date, but low-energy comes much more natural to me personally.
 
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