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So tonight I was supposed to be getting a lot of action with Veronique (I have started to run out of letters to use in FRs so I'm gonna make up names instead) and met her at 7pm, cutting a long story short the date went okay, moved her several times, we ended up eating at a very expensive place on my recommendation (and paying half each) and this is an advantage of dating a career woman instead of a student... I tried to pull her back to her place, it turns out she enjoys cooking so I proposed to cook and asked if her place was in a fit state to receive guests and she said no... maybe I approached this in the wrong way but I wouldn't want to embarrass her with unmade bed, dirty dishes etc... anyway it was a fun night and we talked about a lot of stuff, I threw out quite a few sexual frames and introduced sexual topics (best part was talking about the opera Verdi and the movie Dangerous Liaisons which are both pretty sexual) but I felt she didn't really bite, there was basically no sexual tension and she either wasn't that attracted or I was too clumsy in bringing up sexual maters or just approached her in the wrong way, I dunno, my conversation is OK but I'm not that strong on compliance building, rewarding and punishing, sexual eye contact during the date, need more experience.
So I found myself in the city at 10pm by myself and wasn't ready to go home... I had proposed to take Veronique to this bar but she seemed tired (she works a lot) so I didn't push it, also had no idea if anything would be happening on a Thursday night, but I went there myself and it was great... lots of slow dancing but it was very couple-oriented, I felt like a dick dancing by myself and was experiencing strong approach anxiety and lack of momentum... however, I forced myself and although my first 4 or 5 approaches didn't go that great (I was too hesitant, closed off body language and facial expression) I gathered a bit of momentum, I spotted a group of 3 or 4 girls one of whom was pretty cute and I went over to her and pre-opened and said something like "I saw you dancing earlier and I couldn't help but notice how amazingly cute you are" however, she couldn't hear me, so we ended up going outside to get introduced properly, this was only a quick "getting to know you" chat but I discovered she's Japanese, I'll call her Maki, spoke a little Japanese to her and asked her about herself.
So then we went off for a dance and this went well, it took her about half an hour to relax into my body and start close dancing, at this point I said "you really are amazingly cute...(pause, look into her eyes for a bit)...I'm having a great time with you...do you feel the same way?" "yes" "let's meet on another day" "yes" and number closed and exchanged texts. So when she went back to her friends it was no issue and I socialized with some other people I met, later on we had another long slow dance and it was getting very intimate, I built up heaps of sexual tension by eye contact and caressing her face and neck while leaning in as if I might kiss her but not going for the kiss... eventually I said "if we left together would your friends be angry", she hmmed about this and wasn't sure but I think at least some of them actually left while we were dancing cos after we got back to the table I said "I have the car here, I'm happy to drive you to [her suburb]" and she said "yes! please drive me to [her suburb]"... we left, a nasty moment when we had to go back for her jacket and I was just waiting for some cockblock to pop out of the crowd and shaft us (or even wondering if she'd made up about the jacket to escape back to her friends) but no, we got the jacket and got out!
At this point I started suggesting other activities such as going for coffee etc and she was down, so we decided to go to the main shopping/clubbing street in her suburb and started looking for a place that was still open, we tried several bars and restaurants but they were all in the process of closing, so eventually we started driving towards her home, with me thinking we'll just park in a dark part of the street and commence a makeout... then I saw a 7/11 and suggested we stop there for coffee and toilet break, this was OK and whilst she was in the toilet I hatched an audacious plan! So once we were coffee'd up I took her to the Botanical Gardens where we jumped the fence together (this was not easy as it was quite spiky, was worried I was gonna slip and impale my equipage hahaha, she was OK since I basically lifted her over). As soon as we got out of sight of the gate I commenced a combination of the "drinks kiss" where you build tension by putting your drink down, taking hers and putting it down then going in for the kiss... and a manhandle kiss but I wasn't really forceful enough about it and she turned her head away, well I said c'mon since I knew she was up for it and turned her head back and kissed her but only pretty briefly, decided not to force things.
After some wandering around in the darkness triyng to get oriented we eventually found the lake and commenced a makeout! I did experience some difficulties here, I kissed her several times (very long slow nibbly kisses) and this went great but it seems she just isn't totally into kissing, she has lovely soft pillowy lips so it's hard to understand how that could be... what sealed the deal was I started nibbling her ear and breathing into it and gently biting and putting my tongue in etc (basically just making love to her ear) and I don't know if this is a cultural thing but it has given me great results with JP girls, haven't tried it on a local girl but I imagine it would work, feels fucking great on the receiving end too... she started moaning and so I grabbed her pussy and bang, things went great from there... no LMR whatsoever, had the pants off pretty quick and the bra strap off her shoulder and was sucking her nipples while rubbing that clit, she also humped me for a while, trouble was though, I was not really feeling it... Fuck fuck fuck! This was a combination of two factors, firstly my nervousness, but secondly her lack of compliance / experience, I was trying to get her to play with my nipples and she was not into it, she was rubbing my cock a little in a perfunctory way but soon lost interest in that as well...
So I decided to eat her out while I pondered what to do, I couldn't get hard but it certainly wasn't anything to do with her face or body, she was as cute as a button and had a very tight body into the bargain... it seemed to take her a pretty long time, I got her to the verge of orgasm at least 4 or 5 times, but she didn't seem to be getting there and eventually I thought maybe she needed some penetration so I added the finger and this went great although my arm got a bit tired (as did my tongue) after 20 or so minutes of this... she still wasn't getting there and so eventually I figured out she needed some moaning on my part to feel connected and this also went great, could feel/hear her getting much more into it... I'm pretty sure she came after about half an hour, I cannot be completely certain but she eventually sat up looking satisfied...
Unfortunately that was pretty much the high point, I wanted to fuck so I had her begin a handjob and this seemed to go OK at first, I was definitely getting harder but unfortunately changed position to something that didn't really work, fuckety fuck, had to give up after a while since I was just not feeling it and getting more anxious. She did start following instructions a bit better but after we got dressed again I tried to have her play with my nipples and feel my chest and then I kind of put my finger on what was wrong, she doesn't know how to touch me, I asked her some questions and it appears she has only been with 2 other guys (this is weird since she's 30 and she was up for leaving the club with me, so maybe she's lying but what she says is consistent with what I observed tactilely), basically when I asked her to explore my body she was kind of rubbing it but not actually stopping to feel it... I mean I didn't want to blame her for my lack of performance, so I explained that I often feel anxious, and that as soon as I go home I'll probably masturbate while thinking of her and get rock hard, at the same time I need her to follow instructions better (I had her lie back and tried to show her what I mean about caressing someone's body after she warmed my hand for a while in her armpit). She seemed to take this on board, however it was getting cold and late so we decided to go...
On the way back to the car I suggested that she come over the following week, saying that my house is very warm and I will continue teaching her how to touch me and I will try to get over my anxiety and she said mmm hmm we'll see... I highly doubt I will get another shot at her, but you never know. She had an amazingly tight c--t, if it accommodates all of my length I'll eat my shorts... badly wanted to fill it up and still do.
I wonder if I was being unreasonable in my expectations of her, probably with the right mental attitude I could have just gotten hard and fucked her regardless of anything she did. Still if you feel a connection it helps.
cheers, Ray
So I found myself in the city at 10pm by myself and wasn't ready to go home... I had proposed to take Veronique to this bar but she seemed tired (she works a lot) so I didn't push it, also had no idea if anything would be happening on a Thursday night, but I went there myself and it was great... lots of slow dancing but it was very couple-oriented, I felt like a dick dancing by myself and was experiencing strong approach anxiety and lack of momentum... however, I forced myself and although my first 4 or 5 approaches didn't go that great (I was too hesitant, closed off body language and facial expression) I gathered a bit of momentum, I spotted a group of 3 or 4 girls one of whom was pretty cute and I went over to her and pre-opened and said something like "I saw you dancing earlier and I couldn't help but notice how amazingly cute you are" however, she couldn't hear me, so we ended up going outside to get introduced properly, this was only a quick "getting to know you" chat but I discovered she's Japanese, I'll call her Maki, spoke a little Japanese to her and asked her about herself.
So then we went off for a dance and this went well, it took her about half an hour to relax into my body and start close dancing, at this point I said "you really are amazingly cute...(pause, look into her eyes for a bit)...I'm having a great time with you...do you feel the same way?" "yes" "let's meet on another day" "yes" and number closed and exchanged texts. So when she went back to her friends it was no issue and I socialized with some other people I met, later on we had another long slow dance and it was getting very intimate, I built up heaps of sexual tension by eye contact and caressing her face and neck while leaning in as if I might kiss her but not going for the kiss... eventually I said "if we left together would your friends be angry", she hmmed about this and wasn't sure but I think at least some of them actually left while we were dancing cos after we got back to the table I said "I have the car here, I'm happy to drive you to [her suburb]" and she said "yes! please drive me to [her suburb]"... we left, a nasty moment when we had to go back for her jacket and I was just waiting for some cockblock to pop out of the crowd and shaft us (or even wondering if she'd made up about the jacket to escape back to her friends) but no, we got the jacket and got out!
At this point I started suggesting other activities such as going for coffee etc and she was down, so we decided to go to the main shopping/clubbing street in her suburb and started looking for a place that was still open, we tried several bars and restaurants but they were all in the process of closing, so eventually we started driving towards her home, with me thinking we'll just park in a dark part of the street and commence a makeout... then I saw a 7/11 and suggested we stop there for coffee and toilet break, this was OK and whilst she was in the toilet I hatched an audacious plan! So once we were coffee'd up I took her to the Botanical Gardens where we jumped the fence together (this was not easy as it was quite spiky, was worried I was gonna slip and impale my equipage hahaha, she was OK since I basically lifted her over). As soon as we got out of sight of the gate I commenced a combination of the "drinks kiss" where you build tension by putting your drink down, taking hers and putting it down then going in for the kiss... and a manhandle kiss but I wasn't really forceful enough about it and she turned her head away, well I said c'mon since I knew she was up for it and turned her head back and kissed her but only pretty briefly, decided not to force things.
After some wandering around in the darkness triyng to get oriented we eventually found the lake and commenced a makeout! I did experience some difficulties here, I kissed her several times (very long slow nibbly kisses) and this went great but it seems she just isn't totally into kissing, she has lovely soft pillowy lips so it's hard to understand how that could be... what sealed the deal was I started nibbling her ear and breathing into it and gently biting and putting my tongue in etc (basically just making love to her ear) and I don't know if this is a cultural thing but it has given me great results with JP girls, haven't tried it on a local girl but I imagine it would work, feels fucking great on the receiving end too... she started moaning and so I grabbed her pussy and bang, things went great from there... no LMR whatsoever, had the pants off pretty quick and the bra strap off her shoulder and was sucking her nipples while rubbing that clit, she also humped me for a while, trouble was though, I was not really feeling it... Fuck fuck fuck! This was a combination of two factors, firstly my nervousness, but secondly her lack of compliance / experience, I was trying to get her to play with my nipples and she was not into it, she was rubbing my cock a little in a perfunctory way but soon lost interest in that as well...
So I decided to eat her out while I pondered what to do, I couldn't get hard but it certainly wasn't anything to do with her face or body, she was as cute as a button and had a very tight body into the bargain... it seemed to take her a pretty long time, I got her to the verge of orgasm at least 4 or 5 times, but she didn't seem to be getting there and eventually I thought maybe she needed some penetration so I added the finger and this went great although my arm got a bit tired (as did my tongue) after 20 or so minutes of this... she still wasn't getting there and so eventually I figured out she needed some moaning on my part to feel connected and this also went great, could feel/hear her getting much more into it... I'm pretty sure she came after about half an hour, I cannot be completely certain but she eventually sat up looking satisfied...
Unfortunately that was pretty much the high point, I wanted to fuck so I had her begin a handjob and this seemed to go OK at first, I was definitely getting harder but unfortunately changed position to something that didn't really work, fuckety fuck, had to give up after a while since I was just not feeling it and getting more anxious. She did start following instructions a bit better but after we got dressed again I tried to have her play with my nipples and feel my chest and then I kind of put my finger on what was wrong, she doesn't know how to touch me, I asked her some questions and it appears she has only been with 2 other guys (this is weird since she's 30 and she was up for leaving the club with me, so maybe she's lying but what she says is consistent with what I observed tactilely), basically when I asked her to explore my body she was kind of rubbing it but not actually stopping to feel it... I mean I didn't want to blame her for my lack of performance, so I explained that I often feel anxious, and that as soon as I go home I'll probably masturbate while thinking of her and get rock hard, at the same time I need her to follow instructions better (I had her lie back and tried to show her what I mean about caressing someone's body after she warmed my hand for a while in her armpit). She seemed to take this on board, however it was getting cold and late so we decided to go...
On the way back to the car I suggested that she come over the following week, saying that my house is very warm and I will continue teaching her how to touch me and I will try to get over my anxiety and she said mmm hmm we'll see... I highly doubt I will get another shot at her, but you never know. She had an amazingly tight c--t, if it accommodates all of my length I'll eat my shorts... badly wanted to fill it up and still do.
I wonder if I was being unreasonable in my expectations of her, probably with the right mental attitude I could have just gotten hard and fucked her regardless of anything she did. Still if you feel a connection it helps.
cheers, Ray
